Question DRAM refresh failure while running?

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I built my computer almost 8 months ago. While my pc is running, and usually while i am browsing through the web or my files, i will hear a single "beep" from the case, two or three or more times with at least a minute in beetwen. If i restart my pc, most likely i will not hear any more beeps. I googled the single beep and found out that it is a "dram refresh failure". Not any of the troubleshoots on the internet helped (using 1 stick, swapping them, turning xmp off...). Since the pc is running absolutly fine, i did not contact any of the stores or part manufactuers of my system. Any idea what the problem is or how to solve it?

Specs:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE (rev. 1.0)
G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB DDR4-3200MHz (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR)
MSI RTX 3070 VENTUS 3X OC
Samsung 970 EVO 500GB

Bios Versios: F13c
 

mamasan2000

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You should hear that beep during POST.

From the mobo manual:
• SPEAK (Speaker): Connects to the speaker on the chassis front panel. The system reports system startup status by issuing a beep code. One single short beep will be heard if no problem is detected at system startup
 
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You should hear that beep during POST.

From the mobo manual:
• SPEAK (Speaker): Connects to the speaker on the chassis front panel. The system reports system startup status by issuing a beep code. One single short beep will be heard if no problem is detected at system startup
I never heard anything during post. Not from the headset or from the case. All beeps are while the system is running perfectly fine. While writing the first post, i heard it 4-5 times.
 

mamasan2000

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I never heard anything during post. Not from the headset or from the case. All beeps are while the system is running perfectly fine. While writing the first post, i heard it 4-5 times.
Do you remember connecting a PC speaker next to the Power and Reset front panel stuff? Because most cases if not all no longer come with a pc speaker that beeps. They stopped like 10 years ago.
Could be something else beeping.
 
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My primary headset it connected on the back. On some hot days i use a pair of headphones (the ones that come with your phone) on the front panel audio. Never heard anything there either.
Something else like? GPU?
 

mamasan2000

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My primary headset it connected on the back. On some hot days i use a pair of headphones (the ones that come with your phone) on the front panel audio. Never heard anything there either.
Something else like? GPU?
The pc speaker that beeps is separate from your audio-stuff. It doesn't make a sound in your headset. Since the beep is so frequent, have you tried to locate it? If you open the sidepanel on the case, where is it coming from? the PC speaker used to sit in the front of the case, near the bottom.
 
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The pc speaker that beeps is separate from your audio-stuff. It doesn't make a sound in your headset. Since the beep is so frequent, have you tried to locate it? If you open the sidepanel on the case, where is it coming from? the PC speaker used to sit in the front of the case, near the bottom.
I did remove the sidepanel a few times, all i could find it that beep comes from the motherboard side. I am confident my case (Phanteks P300A) does not have a PC speaker.
 

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Beats me what it could be. The onboard soundchip doesn't seem to have any speaker on it that would make noise on its own. https://www.igorslab.de/en/realtek-alc1200-demystifies-what-different-the-beginner-soundchip-is-really-different-from-the-larger-alc1220/
Sorry for the late reply, but i do have a potential discovery. I have a Seagate SSHD installed on the back of the case, behind the motherboard. It was installed on my laptop but after i upgraded it with an SSD i had it laying aroud. So when i built my PC i installed it and i have some games and some files that i can afford to lose. I noticed that after i access the files on the drive a few times, i will not hear any more beeps. I downloaded the Seagate diagnostics tool, and a few tests i run where a green pass.
It is a Seagate Laptop SSHD 1000GB 8GB NAND FLASH ST1000LM014.
 

mamasan2000

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Sorry for the late reply, but i do have a potential discovery. I have a Seagate SSHD installed on the back of the case, behind the motherboard. It was installed on my laptop but after i upgraded it with an SSD i had it laying aroud. So when i built my PC i installed it and i have some games and some files that i can afford to lose. I noticed that after i access the files on the drive a few times, i will not hear any more beeps. I downloaded the Seagate diagnostics tool, and a few tests i run where a green pass.
It is a Seagate Laptop SSHD 1000GB 8GB NAND FLASH ST1000LM014.
Is it a click or a beep?
View: https://youtu.be/Nr-RsGX6Ywk?t=63

Listen to that video. If you hear weird noises from your harddrive, it's probably broken and will be unreadable any moment.
I'm thinking of the orientation of the HDD. Traditionally they have always been laid flat. Like in drive cages. If it's on the side, I wonder if that affects the head on it, the thing that reads and writes. If that damages the drive somehow. Just speculation. You can see the head in action here:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J09pWNQPK7U

That is an old drive. New harddrives come with more platters and heads. I think the biggest HDDs in terms of terabytes have 16 heads or platters.
Looks like this one has 4 heads
View: https://youtu.be/ukbKNOYl-z8?t=71
 
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Is it a click or a beep?
View: https://youtu.be/Nr-RsGX6Ywk?t=63

Listen to that video. If you hear weird noises from your harddrive, it's probably broken and will be unreadable any moment.
I'm thinking of the orientation of the HDD. Traditionally they have always been laid flat. Like in drive cages. If it's on the side, I wonder if that affects the head on it, the thing that reads and writes. If that damages the drive somehow. Just speculation. You can see the head in action here:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J09pWNQPK7U

That is an old drive. New harddrives come with more platters and heads. I think the biggest HDDs in terms of terabytes have 16 heads or platters.
Looks like this one has 4 heads
View: https://youtu.be/ukbKNOYl-z8?t=71
It is definitely a beep.

Here is a video i managed to take with the beep.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkZ1n3cAjzE
 
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mamasan2000

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Why does that beep sound so familiar? It's like I was transported back 30 years in time. PCs used to make that beeping sound when you turned it on, HDD would spin up, then beep and BIOS screen would show, IIRC.
I think i also remember this sound on Win95/98 machines when i was like 6-7 years old.
The thing is, the SSHD works flawlessly. I have been gaming AAA games, installed on it without any problems or beeps, 3+ hours everynight.
 

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