DREAM damage calculations?

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Hi,

somehow the DREAM damage numbers from the character screen don't seem to
fit. I made some experiments and found the following:

Level 15 Holy Shock aura has 1-648 lightning damage added to attack and
some 1-108 lightning damage over time.

So, first I put the helmet on my barb after stripping him of his weapons:

Bare hand damage: 50-128
DREAM: 51-776 (776-648=128)

This is correct. Now we come to my Enchantress, which has 13 points in
lightning mastery (+194%). I stripped her of all +skills equipment first:

Bare hand damage: 45-63
DREAM: 47-5663 (LM 13, +194%)

Now that is already much more than was to expect. The LM multiplied with
HS damage only gives 1905 lightning (648 x 2,94 = 1905).

How high does it get? I donned all my +skills equipment which gives a
lightning mastery of 20 = 278%. This is on my weapon switch, so the bare
hand damage is slightly higher:

Bare hand damage: 94-213
DREAM: 98-9470 !!!

WTF? This is only 84% more LM, but damage goes up by 3807?

Anybody got an idea what is going on here? I really need to get my ranger
pally to level 65 so I can see what numbers he gets..

Thanks,

Oliver

 

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Oliver Wenzel schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> somehow the DREAM damage numbers from the character screen don't seem to
> fit. I made some experiments and found the following:
>
> Level 15 Holy Shock aura has 1-648 lightning damage added to attack and
> some 1-108 lightning damage over time.
>
> So, first I put the helmet on my barb after stripping him of his weapons:
>
> Bare hand damage: 50-128
> DREAM: 51-776 (776-648=128)
>
> This is correct. Now we come to my Enchantress, which has 13 points in
> lightning mastery (+194%). I stripped her of all +skills equipment first:
>
> Bare hand damage: 45-63
> DREAM: 47-5663 (LM 13, +194%)
>
> Now that is already much more than was to expect. The LM multiplied with
> HS damage only gives 1905 lightning (648 x 2,94 = 1905).

648*2,94*2,94+63 = 5664

Seems to be the same as with FM and Enchant. LM is multipied twice,
first for the skill and a second time for final damage. Now you should
find out if it's just a display bug or if the dealt dmg is really that
high. Remeber to make your tests with melee *and* ranged attacks (other
than the displayed dmg in the LCS indicates, Mastery does only count
once for ranged attacks).

> How high does it get? I donned all my +skills equipment which gives a
> lightning mastery of 20 = 278%. This is on my weapon switch, so the bare
> hand damage is slightly higher:
>
> Bare hand damage: 94-213
> DREAM: 98-9470 !!!
>
> WTF? This is only 84% more LM, but damage goes up by 3807?
>
> Anybody got an idea what is going on here? I really need to get my ranger
> pally to level 65 so I can see what numbers he gets..

You won't see these effects with a pally i think. It's all related to
how Lighning/Fire Mastery is working.

---
Hannes, who needs only 60 more GULs from hellforges to cube up a JAH 😉.

 

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Hi,

Hannes Brunner <bruhan12@web.de> wrote in
news:37th1lF5dd7ghU1@individual.net:

> Oliver Wenzel schrieb:
>> This is correct. Now we come to my Enchantress, which has 13 points
>> in lightning mastery (+194%). I stripped her of all +skills equipment
>> first:
>>
>> Bare hand damage: 45-63
>> DREAM: 47-5663 (LM 13, +194%)
>>
>> Now that is already much more than was to expect. The LM multiplied
>> with HS damage only gives 1905 lightning (648 x 2,94 = 1905).
>
> 648*2,94*2,94+63 = 5664
>
> Seems to be the same as with FM and Enchant. LM is multipied twice,
> first for the skill and a second time for final damage. Now you should
> find out if it's just a display bug or if the dealt dmg is really that
> high. Remeber to make your tests with melee *and* ranged attacks
> (other than the displayed dmg in the LCS indicates, Mastery does only
> count once for ranged attacks).

I somehow remembered that the masteries where taken into account twice,
but only added it up (2,94 + 2,94)..
Hmm, and while running around with my Demon Machine in Hell diff in
Andariel's dungeons, most monsters took two or three shots to kill. So I
wasn't too impressed by the kill rate..

> You won't see these effects with a pally i think. It's all related to
> how Lighning/Fire Mastery is working.

With all synergies for Holy Frost/Shock maxed, a DREAM helmet and 20/5
skill points in HF/HS, I'd be able to have both auras active at the same
time with maximum damage.. And I'd only need 85 skill points for this.

Regards,

Oliver

 

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Oliver Wenzel schrieb:
> I somehow remembered that the masteries where taken into account twice,
> but only added it up (2,94 + 2,94)..
> Hmm, and while running around with my Demon Machine in Hell diff in
> Andariel's dungeons, most monsters took two or three shots to kill. So I
> wasn't too impressed by the kill rate..

Try switching to melee mode (Passion Phase Blade, Whitstan's Guard) and
one hit kills are back - you will be impressed. I did that lately with
my Enchantress. Even with a not so expensive setup like yours
(Gimmershred, Whitstans, Lionheart, String of Ears, Gaze, Ravenfrost,
crafted life leech ring, Laying of Hands, Nats Boots, Resists/Life
Ammy), she is performing quite well (in Act 1 Hell that is).

>>You won't see these effects with a pally i think. It's all related to
>>how Lighning/Fire Mastery is working.
>
> With all synergies for Holy Frost/Shock maxed, a DREAM helmet and 20/5
> skill points in HF/HS, I'd be able to have both auras active at the same
> time with maximum damage.. And I'd only need 85 skill points for this.

Yes, but you won't see the insane numbers caused by FM/LM.

---
Hannes