Dual Boot WinME and WinXP

[sunny]

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A friend is getting a her PC upgraded (New 120Gb HD, Motherboard, CPU) and
needs to dual boot.
WinME is required to run a lot of software that WinXP will not handle
gracefully
The "shop" is reluctant to use third party partitioning software (Partition
Magic), but have said they will partition and install WinME and WinXP for
her.
If they use Win9x to FDISK to partition as she requires (All FAT32):
1. WinME - 20 Gb
2. WinXP - 30 Gb
3. Data - 70 Gb
Can WinME and WinXP be on "C" Drive (hidden from each other, like PM8 does)
?
(One of her 20 Gb hard drives will used as a second "D" drive)
What I have read, so far, indicates that not using third party partitioning
may result in :
C = WinME
E = WinXP
F = Data
D = 2nd Hard Drive (Backup/Data)
(If, C and E are not hidden from each other, using Windows Explorer could be
dangerous)

 

[Guest]

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I used to dual boot and my setup was similar to what you are proposing.The
way to set it up is to install ME onto the C drive and then from within ME
install XP as a new installation onto the E partition of C.XP will detect ME
and setup the dual boot without seperate boot loader.XP will also overwrite
the MBR of the C drive so it can never be formatted or you will lose the
ability to boot at all without doing a repair installation.I also had 2
seperate partitons for ME and XP programs/data because what ever program you
need to run under both needs to be installed under both OS and if you ever
decide to just use XP its a lot easier to just format the ME program
partition.If you format C as fat32 and E as NTFS ME cannot see E but XP can
see all.
When you boot you will be given a choice of which OS to start with ..ME or
XP.Whichever one you use is the desktop you will see.If its ME you will see
only the ME desktop and its programs.....not the XP stuff unless you
deliberately go to the E drive and try to run XP program under
Explorer....but the ME cant see a NTFS drive.The same thing if you start
with XP..you will get the XP desktop and its programs BUT here you can see
the C drive.
hope this helps
peterk

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"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:Om4ElPvaFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>A friend is getting a her PC upgraded (New 120Gb HD, Motherboard, CPU) and
>needs to dual boot.
> WinME is required to run a lot of software that WinXP will not handle
> gracefully
> The "shop" is reluctant to use third party partitioning software
> (Partition Magic), but have said they will partition and install WinME and
> WinXP for her.
> If they use Win9x to FDISK to partition as she requires (All FAT32):
> 1. WinME - 20 Gb
> 2. WinXP - 30 Gb
> 3. Data - 70 Gb
> Can WinME and WinXP be on "C" Drive (hidden from each other, like PM8
> does) ?
> (One of her 20 Gb hard drives will used as a second "D" drive)
> What I have read, so far, indicates that not using third party
> partitioning may result in :
> C = WinME
> E = WinXP
> F = Data
> D = 2nd Hard Drive (Backup/Data)
> (If, C and E are not hidden from each other, using Windows Explorer could
> be dangerous)
>
>
>
>
>

 

[kelly]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Hi,

MVP's have been using it for years.

Bing - Boot It Next Generation
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/

Added info if needed:

Installing Windows 98 or Me after Installing Windows XP
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

How to Install W2K to its own partition. Use a 98 Startup disk and run
WINNT.EXE from the I386 directory. After 2K is installed, boot with the XP
CD and at the Setup/Repair screen, choose Repair. In Recovery Console, use
the following commands:

1) FIXBOOT, answer Yes
2) CD \
3) ATTRIB -H NTLDR
4) ATTRIB -S NTLDR
5) ATTRIB -R NTLDR
6) ATTRIB -H NTDETECT.COM
7) ATTRIB -S NTDETEC.COM
8) ATTRIB -R NTDETECT.COM
9) COPY X:\I386\NTLDR C:\
10) COPY X:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\

In Steps 9 and 10, X is the letter of your CD-Rom drive.

How to Install W2K to its Own Partition after installing XP
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_2k.htm

MS-KB: Cannot Start Windows XP After You Install Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283433

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com



"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:Om4ElPvaFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>A friend is getting a her PC upgraded (New 120Gb HD, Motherboard, CPU) and
>needs to dual boot.
> WinME is required to run a lot of software that WinXP will not handle
> gracefully
> The "shop" is reluctant to use third party partitioning software
> (Partition Magic), but have said they will partition and install WinME and
> WinXP for her.
> If they use Win9x to FDISK to partition as she requires (All FAT32):
> 1. WinME - 20 Gb
> 2. WinXP - 30 Gb
> 3. Data - 70 Gb
> Can WinME and WinXP be on "C" Drive (hidden from each other, like PM8
> does) ?
> (One of her 20 Gb hard drives will used as a second "D" drive)
> What I have read, so far, indicates that not using third party
> partitioning may result in :
> C = WinME
> E = WinXP
> F = Data
> D = 2nd Hard Drive (Backup/Data)
> (If, C and E are not hidden from each other, using Windows Explorer could
> be dangerous)
>
>
>
>
>

 

[sunny]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Thank you, your explanation does help.
I dual boot WinME/WinXP, however I used Partition Magic/Boot Magic.
(I can use Win Explorer with impunity as the two OS are on "C" and hidden
from each other)
I will have to advise her not to fiddle around in Explorer

"peterk" <peterk@nomalarky.net> wrote in message
news:Or3ksivaFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I used to dual boot and my setup was similar to what you are proposing.The
>way to set it up is to install ME onto the C drive and then from within ME
>install XP as a new installation onto the E partition of C.XP will detect
>ME and setup the dual boot without seperate boot loader.XP will also
>overwrite the MBR of the C drive so it can never be formatted or you will
>lose the ability to boot at all without doing a repair installation.I also
>had 2 seperate partitons for ME and XP programs/data because what ever
>program you need to run under both needs to be installed under both OS and
>if you ever decide to just use XP its a lot easier to just format the ME
>program partition.If you format C as fat32 and E as NTFS ME cannot see E
>but XP can see all.
> When you boot you will be given a choice of which OS to start with ..ME or
> XP.Whichever one you use is the desktop you will see.If its ME you will
> see only the ME desktop and its programs.....not the XP stuff unless you
> deliberately go to the E drive and try to run XP program under
> Explorer....but the ME cant see a NTFS drive.The same thing if you start
> with XP..you will get the XP desktop and its programs BUT here you can see
> the C drive.
> hope this helps
> peterk
>
> --
> It's so much easier to suggest solutions when you don't know too much
> about the problem
> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:Om4ElPvaFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>A friend is getting a her PC upgraded (New 120Gb HD, Motherboard, CPU) and
>>needs to dual boot.
>> WinME is required to run a lot of software that WinXP will not handle
>> gracefully
>> The "shop" is reluctant to use third party partitioning software
>> (Partition Magic), but have said they will partition and install WinME
>> and WinXP for her.
>> If they use Win9x to FDISK to partition as she requires (All FAT32):
>> 1. WinME - 20 Gb
>> 2. WinXP - 30 Gb
>> 3. Data - 70 Gb
>> Can WinME and WinXP be on "C" Drive (hidden from each other, like PM8
>> does) ?
>> (One of her 20 Gb hard drives will used as a second "D" drive)
>> What I have read, so far, indicates that not using third party
>> partitioning may result in :
>> C = WinME
>> E = WinXP
>> F = Data
>> D = 2nd Hard Drive (Backup/Data)
>> (If, C and E are not hidden from each other, using Windows Explorer could
>> be dangerous)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Fdisk will allow you to create 4 primary DOS partitions but it does not
allow you to hide one from the others, as Partition Magic will allow you to
do.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:uESfr5vaFHA.740@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thank you, your explanation does help.
> I dual boot WinME/WinXP, however I used Partition Magic/Boot Magic.
> (I can use Win Explorer with impunity as the two OS are on "C" and hidden
> from each other)
> I will have to advise her not to fiddle around in Explorer
>
> "peterk" <peterk@nomalarky.net> wrote in message
> news:Or3ksivaFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I used to dual boot and my setup was similar to what you are proposing.The
>>way to set it up is to install ME onto the C drive and then from within ME
>>install XP as a new installation onto the E partition of C.XP will detect
>>ME and setup the dual boot without seperate boot loader.XP will also
>>overwrite the MBR of the C drive so it can never be formatted or you will
>>lose the ability to boot at all without doing a repair installation.I also
>>had 2 seperate partitons for ME and XP programs/data because what ever
>>program you need to run under both needs to be installed under both OS and
>>if you ever decide to just use XP its a lot easier to just format the ME
>>program partition.If you format C as fat32 and E as NTFS ME cannot see E
>>but XP can see all.
>> When you boot you will be given a choice of which OS to start with ..ME
>> or XP.Whichever one you use is the desktop you will see.If its ME you
>> will see only the ME desktop and its programs.....not the XP stuff unless
>> you deliberately go to the E drive and try to run XP program under
>> Explorer....but the ME cant see a NTFS drive.The same thing if you start
>> with XP..you will get the XP desktop and its programs BUT here you can
>> see the C drive.
>> hope this helps
>> peterk
>>
>> --
>> It's so much easier to suggest solutions when you don't know too much
>> about the problem
>> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:Om4ElPvaFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>A friend is getting a her PC upgraded (New 120Gb HD, Motherboard, CPU)
>>>and needs to dual boot.
>>> WinME is required to run a lot of software that WinXP will not handle
>>> gracefully
>>> The "shop" is reluctant to use third party partitioning software
>>> (Partition Magic), but have said they will partition and install WinME
>>> and WinXP for her.
>>> If they use Win9x to FDISK to partition as she requires (All FAT32):
>>> 1. WinME - 20 Gb
>>> 2. WinXP - 30 Gb
>>> 3. Data - 70 Gb
>>> Can WinME and WinXP be on "C" Drive (hidden from each other, like PM8
>>> does) ?
>>> (One of her 20 Gb hard drives will used as a second "D" drive)
>>> What I have read, so far, indicates that not using third party
>>> partitioning may result in :
>>> C = WinME
>>> E = WinXP
>>> F = Data
>>> D = 2nd Hard Drive (Backup/Data)
>>> (If, C and E are not hidden from each other, using Windows Explorer
>>> could be dangerous)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

XOSL is another boot manager you could use. It lets you
install any OS on any drive, it lets you hide partitions
selectively, and it's free.


"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:Om4ElPvaFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> A friend is getting a her PC upgraded (New 120Gb HD, Motherboard, CPU) and
> needs to dual boot.
> WinME is required to run a lot of software that WinXP will not handle
> gracefully
> The "shop" is reluctant to use third party partitioning software
(Partition
> Magic), but have said they will partition and install WinME and WinXP for
> her.
> If they use Win9x to FDISK to partition as she requires (All FAT32):
> 1. WinME - 20 Gb
> 2. WinXP - 30 Gb
> 3. Data - 70 Gb
> Can WinME and WinXP be on "C" Drive (hidden from each other, like PM8
does)
> ?
> (One of her 20 Gb hard drives will used as a second "D" drive)
> What I have read, so far, indicates that not using third party
partitioning
> may result in :
> C = WinME
> E = WinXP
> F = Data
> D = 2nd Hard Drive (Backup/Data)
> (If, C and E are not hidden from each other, using Windows Explorer could
be
> dangerous)
>
>
>
>
>

 

[sunny]

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Thank you Guys and Lady, things are much clearer now

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O0nSyOwaFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Fdisk will allow you to create 4 primary DOS partitions but it does not
> allow you to hide one from the others, as Partition Magic will allow you
> to do.

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message
news:uXl8WwwaFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> XOSL is another boot manager you could use. It lets you
> install any OS on any drive, it lets you hide partitions
> selectively, and it's free.

"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eR6O59xaFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,> MVP's have been using it for years.
> Bing - Boot It Next Generation
> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/
> Added info if needed:

 

[kelly]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Most welcome, thanks for the feedback and hope all goes well for you. )

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com



"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:eFpgRKzaFHA.3488@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thank you Guys and Lady, things are much clearer now
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O0nSyOwaFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Fdisk will allow you to create 4 primary DOS partitions but it does not
>> allow you to hide one from the others, as Partition Magic will allow you
>> to do.
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message
> news:uXl8WwwaFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> XOSL is another boot manager you could use. It lets you
>> install any OS on any drive, it lets you hide partitions
>> selectively, and it's free.
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eR6O59xaFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,> MVP's have been using it for years.
>> Bing - Boot It Next Generation
>> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/
>> Added info if needed:
>
>