Dual E5 2680 build

[AzeeeD]

Hello!

I bought today two Xeon E5 2670 (SR0KX) processors, and I need to know what about motherboard and Ram.

I found this seller sell's 64gb ram with low price: http://goo.gl/3V23UG
About motherboard I don't know what I will buy, and what is the case will fit with.

Please help me to build my computer I don't have any experience

 

[scuzzycard]

SuperMicro practically wrote the book on dual-CPU workstation boards. The X9DAi, X9DAE, and X9DA7 are all compatible with SB-EP. Do you have any special needs? How many Ethernet ports do you need? How many PCI-E slots? SATA only or SAS?

 

[AzeeeD]

SuperMicro practically wrote the book on dual-CPU workstation boards. The X9DAi, X9DAE, and X9DA7 are all compatible with SB-EP. Do you have any special needs? How many Ethernet ports do you need? How many PCI-E slots? SATA only or SAS?

Thank you very much for responding, I just need the workstation for some works, like video rendering, android studio, and I will run some bots on it. I need just one Ethernet ports, and I need just to run one screen, maybe I will add dual screen later.
I also need an SSD for the system, how about SATA only or SAS what is the better?

 

[scuzzycard]

SAS (Serial attached SCSI) is for high-end enterprise hard drives. It supports interface speeds of up to 1500MB/sec vs 600MB/sec for SATA. The drives have much faster seek times (~4ms vs ~8ms) and spin at up to 15000RPM. Most importantly, the drives are much more reliable and can operate at full load 24/7 without failing. For what you're doing it sounds like a combination of a SATA SSD and a SATA Hard Drive RAID-5 would be fine. I would go with this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182260

 

[AzeeeD]

SAS (Serial attached SCSI) is for high-end enterprise hard drives. It supports interface speeds of up to 1500MB/sec vs 600MB/sec for SATA. The drives have much faster seek times (~4ms vs ~8ms) and spin at up to 15000RPM. Most importantly, the drives are much more reliable and can operate at full load 24/7 without failing. For what you're doing it sounds like a combination of a SATA SSD and a SATA Hard Drive RAID-5 would be fine. I would go with this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182260

I found this motherboard expensive :/ there is no good and cheap ones?

 

[bambiboom]

Hello!

I bought today two Xeon E5 2670 (SR0KX) processors, and I need to know what about motherboard and Ram.

I found this seller sell's 64gb ram with low price: http://goo.gl/3V23UG
About motherboard I don't know what I will buy, and what is the case will fit with.

Please help me to build my computer I don't have any experience

AzeeeD,

The recommendation of scuzzycard of Supermicro motherboards is a good one - they're specialists in server and workstation motherboards- very good performance and reliable in the long slogs.

The RAM in the listing is in general a good kind by a good maker, but I suggest if possible only buying memory on the list for the motherboard. Also, check buyer's comments for Hong Kong sellers of "new" and "new other" RAM from Hong- the definition seems to vary considerably.

Given the cost of high quality new workstation component and with used processors, a cost and effort-saving approach to this kind of system is to buy a low specification or "barebones" dual CPU-capable workstation and simply plug in the E5-2680's or 2670's, RAM, GPU, and drives of choice.

As the E5-2670, 2680 and 2690 dropped so substantially in price thanks to a large-scale swap by the owners of very large servers- facebook and google, I also bought a pair- E5-2690's to use in a system to replace a Dell Precision T5500 (2X Xeon X5680)

Purchased for $270 (inexpensive because of cosmetic defects):

HP z620 (Original) Xeon E5-1620 4-core @ 3.6 /3.8GHz) / 8GB (1X 8GB DDR3-1333) / AMD Firepro V5900 (2GB) / Seagate Barracuda 750GB + Samsung 500GB + WD 500GB
[ Passmark System Rating= 2408 / CPU= 8361 / 2D= 846 / 3D = 1613 / Mem =1584 / Disk = 574 ] 7.13.16

I bought the 2nd CPU riser, $150, RAM: $165, an HP Z Turbo drive: $150, and a set of new plastic case parts: $56, and moved the Quadro K2200 and WD RE4 from the T5500 with the result:

HP z620 (Rev 2) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 /3.8GHz) / 40GB DDR3-1600 ECC) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) / 800W > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5322 / CPU= 19777 / 2D= 741 / 3D = 3887/ Mem =2290 / Disk = 13426 ] 9.2.16

> and inexplicably, it's the highest rated HP z620 on Passmark. Inexplicable as none of the scores except I think the 2D is the highest. It may be that Passmark gives a lot of weight to the single-thread mark hidden in the CPU rating, and the E5-2690 single-thread performance is quite good among E5-2600's- a bit better even than E5-2687w. The disk score, going from 574 to 13,426 though might qualify for some kind of "most improved" award.

The other good feature is that the E5-1620 and the Firepro V5900 are together worth about $150, so it was in effect a $120 system, bu the best feature is that it only necessary to plug in the new parts as they arrive, saving researching, ordering, assembling, wiring, configuration, and testing, plus there is the support for parts, and drivers all in one place.

Other candidates for your E5's include the HP z820, and Dell Precision T7600. If I did this again, I would use a z820 as they do not have the add-on riser board- both CPU's are mounted on the main board, which cost $150 and, I believe, does not produce the top CPU performance. The z820 is always quite a bit more expensive, but they are also more often in a better condition. So, in comparing z620 and z820, add the cost of the riser and value of the overall condition.

Here's a July 5th sale:

HP Z620 2x Xeon E5-2609 2.4GHZ 500GB HDD 24GB Win7Pro pny Nvidia Quadro 600 Sold for $451.51

As that one already has the riser, it would be fairly quick to get into use at a reasonable total cost.

I didn't see any comparable Precision T7600's sales, but here's a z820:

HP Z820 Workstation 8-Core Xeon E5-2680 2.7GHz 32GB 256GB SSD Quadro 4000 Win 7 > sold for $800

And in that example, there is already one E5-2680 so that's -$100 and it's in effect a $700 purchase, a Quadro 4000 is worth about $150. so that's now $550, the 32GB of RAM is halfway there, another -$ 70 and having a 256GB SSD is perhaps another $80 savings, so the net cost is more in the $400 range.

It's the best computer game of any!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design:

HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

 

[AzeeeD]

Hello!

I bought today two Xeon E5 2670 (SR0KX) processors, and I need to know what about motherboard and Ram.

I found this seller sell's 64gb ram with low price: http://goo.gl/3V23UG
About motherboard I don't know what I will buy, and what is the case will fit with.

Please help me to build my computer I don't have any experience

AzeeeD,

The recommendation of scuzzycard of Supermicro motherboards is a good one - they're specialists in server and workstation motherboards- very good performance and reliable in the long slogs.

The RAM in the listing is in general a good kind by a good maker, but I suggest if possible only buying memory on the list for the motherboard. Also, check buyer's comments for Hong Kong sellers of "new" and "new other" RAM from Hong- the definition seems to vary considerably.

One other approach to this kind of system is to buy a low specification or "barebones" dual CPU workstation and plug in the E5-2680's or 2670's.

As the E5-2670, 2680 and 2690 dropped so substantially in price thanks to a large-scale swap by the owners of very large servers- facebook and google, I also bought a pair- E5-2690's to use in a system to replace a Dell Precision T5500 (2X Xeon X5680)

Purchased for $270 (inexpensive because of cosmetic defects):

HP z620 (Original) Xeon E5-1620 4-core @ 3.6 /3.8GHz) / 8GB (1X 8GB DDR3-1333) / AMD Firepro V5900 (2GB) / Seagate Barracuda 750GB + Samsung 500GB + WD 500GB
[ Passmark System Rating= 2408 / CPU= 8361 / 2D= 846 / 3D = 1613 / Mem =1584 / Disk = 574 ] 7.13.16

I bought the 2nd CPU riser, $150, RAM: $165, an HP Z Turbo drive: $150, and a set of new plastic case parts: $56, and moved the Quadro K2200 and WD RE4 from the T5500 with the result:

HP z620 (Rev 2) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 /3.8GHz) / 40GB DDR3-1600 ECC) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) / 800W > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5322 / CPU= 19777 / 2D= 741 / 3D = 3887/ Mem =2290 / Disk = 13426 ] 9.2.16

> and inexplicably, it's the highest rated HP z620 on Passmark. Inexplicable as none of the scores except I think the 2D is the highest. It may be that Passmark gives a lot of weight to the single-thread mark hidden in the CPU rating, and the E5-2690 single-thread performance is quite good among E5-2600's- a bit better even than E5-2687w. The disk score, going from 574 to 13,426 though might qualify for some kind of "most improved" award.

The other good feature is that the E5-1620 and the Firepro V5900 are together worth about $150, so it was in effect a $120 system, bu the best feature is that it only necessary to plug in the new parts as they arrive, saving researching, ordering, assembling, wiring, configuration, and testing, plus there is the support for parts, and drivers all in one place.

Other candidates for your E5's include the HP z820, and Dell Precision T7600. If I did this again, I would use a z820 as they do not have the add-on riser board- both CPU's are mounted on the main board, which cost $150 and, I believe, does not produce the top CPU performance. The z820 is always quite a bit more expensive, but they are also more often in a better condition. So, in comparing z620 and z820, add the cost of the riser and value of the overall condition.

Here's a July 5th sale:

HP Z620 2x Xeon E5-2609 2.4GHZ 500GB HDD 24GB Win7Pro pny Nvidia Quadro 600 Sold for $451.51

As that one already has the riser, it would be fairly quick to get into use at a reasonable total cost.

I didn't see any comparable Precision T7600's sales, but here's a z820:

HP Z820 Workstation 8-Core Xeon E5-2680 2.7GHz 32GB 256GB SSD Quadro 4000 Win 7 > sold for $800

And in that example, there is already one E5-2680 so that's -$100 and it's in effect a $700 purchase, a Quadro 4000 is worth about $150. so that's now $550, the 32GB of RAM is halfway there, another -$ 70 and having a 256GB SSD is perhaps another $80 savings, so the net cost is more in the $400 range.

It's the best computer game of any!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design:

HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Thank you for all those great informations, I learnt a lot of things, but I think selling HP Z820 Workstation with E5 2680 for $800 is a bad deal or not? if I will build it with the SuperMicro the price will be more than that.

and what is is the best morherboard is the SuperMicro or the other ones picked from hp computers? and where can I found the best ones to buy in the internet

 

[bambiboom]

"Thank you for all those great informations, I learnt a lot of things, but I think selling HP Z820 Workstation with E5 2680 for $800 is a bad deal or not? if I will build it with the SuperMicro the price will be more than that.

and what is is the best morherboard is the SuperMicro or the other ones picked from hp computers? and where can I found the best ones to buy in the internet"


AzeeeD,

Of course, it is not possible to build a new dual Xeon system for the price of a used one. A z820 with an E5-2680- which cost $1,750- new would have cost perhaps $4,500. When building, the motherboard is likely to cost about $400 already plus the case and power supply - perhaps $2,500.

Another cost /effective method would be to use:

Supermicro SuperWorkstation SYS-7037A-I Dual Socket LGA2011 Xeon 900W Mid-Tower Workstation Barebone System (Black) > $720

This provide a case, the excellent Supermicro X9Dai motherboard, two CPU coolers, and 900W power supply. So the fundamental system is all new and all that is necessary is to plug in the CPU's, RAM, GPU, and drives. Fast and easy. These are said to be very quiet also. I like the Supermicro X9Dai motherboard very much as it has three PCIe z16 slots and good spacing of the RAM slots and so on. [ I would like to make my next system one of those with a pair of Xeon E5-2687w v2's - those are 8 core @ 3.4 /4.0Ghz, plus a used Quadro M5000.]

In terms of the best performance for the E5-2670 or 2680, Dell Precision T7600, HP z820, Lenovo D30, and the ASUS Z9PE-WS and Intel S 2600CP motherboards produce some of the best results.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

[AzeeeD]

"Thank you for all those great informations, I learnt a lot of things, but I think selling HP Z820 Workstation with E5 2680 for $800 is a bad deal or not? if I will build it with the SuperMicro the price will be more than that.

and what is is the best morherboard is the SuperMicro or the other ones picked from hp computers? and where can I found the best ones to buy in the internet"


AzeeeD,

Of course, it is not possible to build a new dual Xeon system for the price of a used one. A z820 with an E5-2680- which cost $1,750- new would have cost perhaps $4,500. When building, the motherboard is likely to cost about $400 already plus the case and power supply - perhaps $2,500.

Another cost /effective method would be to use:

Supermicro SuperWorkstation SYS-7037A-I Dual Socket LGA2011 Xeon 900W Mid-Tower Workstation Barebone System (Black) > $720

This provide a case, the excellent Supermicro X9Dai motherboard, two CPU coolers, and 900W power supply. So the fundamental system is all new and all that is necessary is to plug in the CPU's, RAM, GPU, and drives. Fast and easy. These are said to be very quiet also. I like the Supermicro X9Dai motherboard very much as it has three PCIe z16 slots and good spacing of the RAM slots and so on. [ I would like to make my next system one of those with a pair of Xeon E5-2687w v2's - those are 8 core @ 3.4 /4.0Ghz, plus a used Quadro M5000.]

In terms of the best performance for the E5-2670 or 2680, Dell Precision T7600, HP z820, Lenovo D30, and the ASUS Z9PE-WS and Intel S 2600CP motherboards produce some of the best results.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

Thank you very much, before few minutes I found this hot deal! http://www.natex.us/S2600CP-Intel-Server-Motherboard-Package-Deal-p/intel-s2600cp2j-128gb.htm
It's worth to buy?

If this deal is good I will cancel the last order about the two E5 2670 purchased this morning and I will pick this

 

[bambiboom]

"Thank you very much, before few minutes I found this hot deal! http://www.natex.us/S2600CP-Intel-Server-Motherboard-Package-Deal-p/intel-s2600cp2j-128gb.htm
It's worth to buy?

If this deal is good I will cancel the last order about the two E5 2670 purchased this morning and I will pick this"

AzeeeD,

The Intel S2600CP2J motherboard is an an excellent motherboard- the highest quality, but if I were buying a used motherboard, I would only buy one in a working system. The 128GB of RAM is welcome but it is a particular type for servers that runs on a lower voltage to save power and then ramps up when needed. I tried this- for one day- in a workstation and it often failed to shift gears and the computer crashed.

Cheers,

BambiBoom