Dual X5670 or a Modern i7 for streaming and gaming?

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So I've come to terms with the fact that my cpu is trash. I got a new job so I'll soon have some money to spend on a new rig and I'm trying to decide whether or not I should go the Xeon route. My primary uses for it would be gaming and streaming, and I know that the i7s are kinda the kings in this category. But with the x5670s being about $100-150 on ebay, and a dual lga 1366 server board being $150-200, the price for two X5670s is comparable to that of an i7 4790k and an X99 mobo. The X5670 route would give me 12 cores(2x6 cores) and 24 threads, but Im not sure how overkill this is. I heard somewhere that obs can take advantage of a maximum of 22 threads, so having 24 threads could give me close to maximum cpu potential with a little extra. The x5670 is also at a stock speed of 3.0 GHz but is unlocked and can easily be overclocked to 4.0+, so it's not exactly slow. And the reason that more cores sounds good to me is that I also have a hobby of music creation, so more rendering speed would be appreciated.

Sorry for the long post, but my primary question is which cpu(s) would be better appreciated by my computer usage, dual X5670 or something along the lines of an i7 4790k?
I plan on buying a new cpu, motherboard, ram, and psu; along with an ssd for that extra kick. My graphics card is decent(a GTX 960) but I plan on upgrading that further on, maybe a GTX 1070.
My maximum budget for those parts would be about $1000.

All advice, answers, or correcting of any stupidness on my part is very appreciated! :)
 
Solution
First off, the 4790K pairs with a Z97 board, not an X99 - so be careful if you decide to go that route.

Your planned use(s) would benefit from a healthy balance of cores/threads & clock speeds.
An i7-6700K + Z170 board would likely serve you just fine (4Cores/8Threads 4GHz base, turbo'ing to 4.2GHz - should be able to OC to ~4.6GHz).

Beyond that, an i7-5820K + X99 board (3.3GHz to 3.6 turbo, 6core/12threads with OC potential) would be a good option also.

Considering your budget, and the prices you've quoted for the Xeon options (I assume used) - I think newer tech makes the most sense.

If you already had a Xeon, dropping a second onto the board wouldn't be a bad option at all, but it seems a bit of a waste dropping so much cash on...
First off, the 4790K pairs with a Z97 board, not an X99 - so be careful if you decide to go that route.

Your planned use(s) would benefit from a healthy balance of cores/threads & clock speeds.
An i7-6700K + Z170 board would likely serve you just fine (4Cores/8Threads 4GHz base, turbo'ing to 4.2GHz - should be able to OC to ~4.6GHz).

Beyond that, an i7-5820K + X99 board (3.3GHz to 3.6 turbo, 6core/12threads with OC potential) would be a good option also.

Considering your budget, and the prices you've quoted for the Xeon options (I assume used) - I think newer tech makes the most sense.

If you already had a Xeon, dropping a second onto the board wouldn't be a bad option at all, but it seems a bit of a waste dropping so much cash on 6+ year old tech.

FWIW, these would be my suggestions:
6700K + Z170
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($92.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1012.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-03 00:23 EDT-0400

5820K + X99
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1113.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-03 00:22 EDT-0400

*EDIT* I missed a PSU in the recommendations. $1,000 may be a little light to get all the upgrades you want.

Some PSU options (a quality 600-650W should be fine)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vHhj4D/rosewill-power-supply-capstoneg750
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JYyFf7/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z8FPxr/xfx-power-supply-pro650wp1650snlb9
 
Solution
neither. pick up two used e5-2670's for 60 each and a dual socket 2011 mobo for 300. overkill, probably but you can always disable some of the cores to get it to turbo higher

another thing just for note. the only motherboard that will overclock a dual socket 1366 setup is a evga sr-2
 
what barty said about 6 year old tech is wrong. in my gaming PC. i have an xeon x5460, and ive seen SO MANY videos on youtube of this 2007 server CPU paired with nvidia's high end GTX 980's and 970's running fallout 4 and BF4 and GTA V on the highest settings at 60 FPS. i would recommend the xeon's.

and since the xeons would have so many threads and cores, it would technically be futureproofed and last you a good 5-6 years, even more, probably. since lots of new games being released are quad-core optimized.
 


an overclocked x5687 will get to i7 4690k performance easy
 
@jdaniel - I didn't say the dual Xeon's couldn't do the job (and likely pretty well), I said I don't see the sense in investing in 6+ year old (used) tech, when you can have new for comparable pricing. I wouldn't agree with the 'futureproofing' claim though. The additional cores/threads from the Xeon's will never be utilized in gaming (let alone in the lifespan of that setup).

@cdabc123 - not a bad alternative if the OP wants to run the dual Xeon setup.
 


Yeah I agree, dual CPU is a terrible investment especially for such older technology. And the "future proofing" claim is completely bogus. Look at VR - the minimum requirements for both the Oculus Rift and the HTC Vive are a quad core 4th generation. If you bought that dual CPU rig for VR, that would automatically be outdated. I wouldn't even remotely consider the dual x5670s. "Future proofing" would already be a moot point, but when you're using 6 year old CPUs that becomes even more so. This would be a better purchase for $1,000 IMO:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.64 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Extreme6+ ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Other: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 ACX 3.0 ($299.99)
Total: $1128.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-03 14:10 EDT-0400