E5-2650 or 2nd gen ryzen for server project?

[thehardwarehacker]

hey all, ive been looking over parts, and considering options for a sever project im planning. i was originally planning on using the ryzen 1800X as it seems like a beastly 8 core, thought i was going to try holding out for zen 2 if i could. to that end i was exploring a different option, when i can across this reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/7vx6bv/diy_nas_server/



and a comment about xeons caught my eye, which lead me to this:]

https://ark.intel.com/products/64590/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2650-20M-Cache-2_00-GHz-8_00-GTs-Intel-QPI



and a search led me to this: https://www.ebay.com/p/Intel-Xeon-E5-2650-2GHz-Eight-Core-CM8062100856218-Processor/115945109?iid=273053873153&thm=3100



so, my first question is, for a server i intend use as a handbreak machine, minecraft server, tonido/ file server would the xeon be a better option than the ryzen chip, despite being discontinued? as far as i see, their both 64 bit chip, w/ 8/16. the only difference being the the xeon uses DDR3, and is on the older 2011---which brings me to my next question..



because the E5-2650 is a 2011 socket chip, does that mean if i can get a consumer grade 2011 mobo, drop it in, through on a good cooler, and im good to go? or am i miss-informing myself?



sorry for long post, but thanks.

 

[kanewolf]

Each motherboard has a list of supported CPUs provided on the manufacturer's website. Choose a motherboard, then check the manufacturer's website for support of the specific chip you are interested in.

 

[dontlistentome]

That's a Sandy Bridge era Xeon, so a consumer motherboard with the Z68 or Z77 chipset would be your best shot. I just did a random "Asus Z77" search and found a motherboard that supports some Xeons, not that one but some other ones. So I'd do a search for more Z77 motherboards.

A downside of using older Xeons is that they can be hard to match with a wide range of motherboard, usually your choices are limited. Not only that, but some of the older Xeon friendly motherboards can still demand a high price.

 

[thehardwarehacker]

hey again, i did alot of digging, and i came across these : https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Open-box-ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X79-Socket-2011-Intel-Motherboard/232654797085?epid=114542237&hash=item362b4e791d:g:dqwAAOSwf15ad239

and :https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P9X79-LGA-2011-Socket-R-Intel-Motherboard/323050513655?epid=127392280&hash=item4b374fa4f7:g:scAAAOSwl2haQXc-

it would seem these boards offer what i want, but what i cant seem to find is if they support raid 1+0 (20TB raw, 10TB usable), would ither of these boards support that config?

 

[kanewolf]

hey again, i did alot of digging, and i came across these : https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Open-box-ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X79-Socket-2011-Intel-Motherboard/232654797085?epid=114542237&hash=item362b4e791d:g:dqwAAOSwf15ad239

and :https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P9X79-LGA-2011-Socket-R-Intel-Motherboard/323050513655?epid=127392280&hash=item4b374fa4f7:g:scAAAOSwl2haQXc-

it would seem these boards offer what i want, but what i cant seem to find is if they support raid 1+0 (20TB raw, 10TB usable), would ither of these boards support that config?

That motherboard supports V2 CPUs your original post was for the V1 E5-2xxx CPU -- https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P9X79/HelpDesk_CPU/

If you are going to mess with E5-2xxx CPUs why would you not just buy a complete workstation? Get a Z800 or a Dell T series. Then there is no question on compatibility.

 

[thehardwarehacker]

hey again, i did alot of digging, and i came across these : https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Open-box-ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X79-Socket-2011-Intel-Motherboard/232654797085?epid=114542237&hash=item362b4e791d:g:dqwAAOSwf15ad239

and :https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P9X79-LGA-2011-Socket-R-Intel-Motherboard/323050513655?epid=127392280&hash=item4b374fa4f7:g:scAAAOSwl2haQXc-

it would seem these boards offer what i want, but what i cant seem to find is if they support raid 1+0 (20TB raw, 10TB usable), would ither of these boards support that config?

That motherboard supports V2 CPUs your original post was for the V1 E5-2xxx CPU -- https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P9X79/HelpDesk_CPU/

If you are going to mess with E5-2xxx CPUs why would you not just buy a complete workstation? Get a Z800 or a Dell T series. Then there is no question on compatibility.

oh shoot, i forgot i hadn't switched this question over the the E5- 2640 V2 on this thread yet. my bad.

 

[thehardwarehacker]

so, after more digging, i discovered that any mobo that supports the 2650 is ither out of my price range, or only supports DDR4. what i found next is this sabertooth x79

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Open-box-ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X79-Socket-2011-Intel-Motherboard/232654797085?epid=114542237&hash=item362b4e791d:g:dqwAAOSwf15ad239

it takes DDR3, so no selling the leg for DDR4



which supports the E5-2640 V2, which start at less than $100

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-E5-2640-V2-SR19Z-8-Core-2-00GHz-20MB-Socket-2011-Server-CPU/112745313658?epid=2196421535&hash=item1a4024f57a:g:e24AAOSwRE5aVU76



something i did just notice though, i was planning on a 4 HDD RAID for the 'file storage' part of this server. would this board be ok for a raid 0+1 config (20 TB raw, 10 TB usablle)

 

[kanewolf]

You can't get 20TB RAW and 10TB usable with RAID10 of 4TB disks. You have to have an even number of drives. You would have to have 6 4TB disks and get 12TB usable. I doubt that there are 6 SATA ports on the same controller on a consumer motherboard. I would not recommend using motherboard RAID controller for a storage server. If the motherboard fails, it is very difficult to recover the storage. With a RAID controller card, you can move it and the drives to a new motherboard and have a good chance of saving all your data.

 

[thehardwarehacker]

You can't get 20TB RAW and 10TB usable with RAID10 of 4TB disks. You have to have an even number of drives. You would have to have 6 4TB disks and get 12TB usable. I doubt that there are 6 SATA ports on the same controller on a consumer motherboard. I would not recommend using motherboard RAID controller for a storage server. If the motherboard fails, it is very difficult to recover the storage. With a RAID controller card, you can move it and the drives to a new motherboard and have a good chance of saving all your data.

i didnt say '4 TB disks' i said 4 HDD's. i was going to use 2 sets of 4TB + 6TB HDDs