E5200 vs e6300?

[shadow187]

How much of a performance difference between the two? Looking to overclock using FSB only. Max GPU that ever goes into this thing is the HD5570.

 

[andy5174]

You talking about HD5750 instead if I am not mistaken.

E6300 is significantly better, but an E5200 should be enough for HD5750.

 

[shadow187]

No, talking about the HD5570, .

 

[andy5174]

There is no dedicated graphic card named HD5570 according to AMD official website. Is it an integrated video card?

BTW, are you talking about the PENTIUM E6300 or C2D E6300. The PENTIUM E6300 is much better.

 

[shadow187]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131341&cm_re=hd5570-_-14-131-341-_-Product

Believe me; I come from the GPU section of TSH. :3.

 

[ajfink]

Both would be more than enough to keep pace with that GPU. If your only concern is gaming, I would say spend the extra money on a better GPU instead of a faster CPU

 

[shadow187]

I'm using an E1400 which is OC'd to 2.4 Ghz. It's bottleneck by an HD4650; I reeeeeallly think I need a new CPU, 😛.

 

[andy5174]

I would say that it is worse than a HD5750 according to ATI's naming and therefore an E5200 should be enough.

 

[p1n3apqlexpr3ss]

Go with the the e5200, especially as were going on FSB OC only, it shouldnt be bottlenecked by a 5570

 

[Bluescreendeath]

Uhhh, the 5570 is extremely weak. Get a 5670 for $10ish more, which performs equal to a 4830 and will be leaps and bounds better than a 5570.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=5670&x=0&y=0


Also, a E5200 is a P2D at 2.6GHz, the E6300 is a P2D at 2.8GHz. How much is the price difference? If it's under $20 difference, get the E6300. If you are planning to overclock, both are great at OCing, hitting 4.0GHz on air without much trouble with cheap <$30 coolers.

 

[hundredislandsboy]

I have both of those CPUs. Go with the E6300 (native fsb 1066) where the E5200 has stock 800 fsb.

 

[shadow187]

Wouldn't I want a lower FSB because that's my only method of overclocking?

Bluescreen, I know. It's more powerful than my HD4650, which is good for what I'm using it for. Just Tf2 is my most intensive game, so no worries.

 

[p1n3apqlexpr3ss]

As i said before if you are FSB OCing only, then the E5200 is your better option...

 

[shadow187]

Can you explain the benefit to multiplier OC'ing instead of FSB oc'ing (besides motherboards only support 1066/1366/1600)?

 

[p1n3apqlexpr3ss]

Itll already be running at the maximum multiplier... and i doubt your gonna go pay 999 for extreme series CPUs...
Multiplied OCing just raises the clock multiplier, without having to raise the FSB/BCLK etc, just voltage if its unstable. Benefits of it... i honestly dont know

 

[shadow187]

So why do people just looove the unlocked multipliers on AMD cpu's? 😛...


Any idea how far I can take an E5200 with no voltage adjustments?

 

[anonymousdude]

People like it mostly because it's simpler to overclock, but once you try to overclock towards 4.0ghz it doesn't really matter as you will have to start to adjust the other values.

 

[spentshells]

So why do people just looove the unlocked multipliers on AMD cpu's? 😛...


Any idea how far I can take an E5200 with no voltage adjustments?

without vo9tage adjustments does this mean voltage on auto ???

jeeze Id say around 3.6 or 3.7 if you voltage is locked at stock

 

[jsc]

The E5200 is $67 on newegg. E6300 is $80. Unless you have a G31/G41 board, get the E6300. Don't worry about the FSB difference. With the E6300's 10.5 multiplier, a 400 MHz FSB gets you a 4.2 GHz core freq if the core will run that fast.
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Overclocking since 1978 - Z80 (TRS-80) from 1.77 MHz to 2.01 MHz

 

[hundredislandsboy]

Wouldn't I want a lower FSB because that's my only method of overclocking?

Bluescreen, I know. It's more powerful than my HD4650, which is good for what I'm using it for. Just Tf2 is my most intensive game, so no worries.

Because both those CPU overclocks overclock about the same, about and extra 800 mhz easily.

Two Pentium dual core CPUS with both at 3.5 GHz sound like they equal. But if one is running on 1333 fsb (as the overclocked E6300 will) and one is running on a 1066 fsb, the E6300 is about 30% faster. And for the E5200 to run on a 1333 fsb will require lots of voltages, nearly max or over the TDP where the E6300 is comfortable, hardly breaking a sweat at 1333 fsb and doing so on stock voltage.

 

[jsc]

But if one is running on 1333 fsb (as the overclocked E6300 will) and one is running on a 1066 fsb, the E6300 is about 30% faster.

For the same core speed, The E6300 will be maybe 10% faster. Performance will not scale linearly with the FSB.

And with either CPU, there's no guarantee that you'll be able to reach 4 GHz. The best I was able to do with my E5200 was 3.78 GHz (315 MHz X 12).

 

[hundredislandsboy]

You're right. I was refering to theoretical math but forgot those numbers don't matter within a CPU. lol.

But I almost want to bet I can find one benchmark that shows a 30% gain. Pi maybe?