E6300 and E6400 Difference?

[grapz]

Is there any difference beside the clock speed.

I mean if i were to overclock my E6300 to the same clock speed as the E6400 would everything be the same?

 

[grapz]

if everything is same cept clock speed how can performance be different if i overclock it to same clock speed

 

[grapz]

i c so , in terms of stability when overclocked, the two chips should be around same temperature, etc if they are clocked at the same speed?

 

[kevinbaron]

You would be wise to save a few dimes and get the E6600. Reason is the 6300 and 6400 have 2mb of cache and performance reflects that. The E6600 is only 300 dollars and a much faster chip, that is if you can get yours hands on any of them. Demand is high. the 6600 will at least keep you happy for a much longer time. And the 6600 is faster then even the faster AMD chips right now. So it's a real deal.

 

[jaguarskx]

i c so , in terms of stability when overclocked, the two chips should be around same temperature, etc if they are clocked at the same speed?

Technically, yes. But when you are overclocking you are increasing the fequency of the CPU instead of the multiplier whichs causes the CPU to work harder, so to speak.

In the end, the difference shouldn't be very big, but in my opinion (non professional) the E6400 at stock speed of 2.13GHz will be slightly cooler than the E6300 overclocked to 2.13GHz.

 

[grapz]

You would be wise to save a few dimes and get the E6600. Reason is the 6300 and 6400 have 2mb of cache and performance reflects that. The E6600 is only 300 dollars and a much faster chip, that is if you can get yours hands on any of them. Demand is high. the 6600 will at least keep you happy for a much longer time. And the 6600 is faster then even the faster AMD chips right now. So it's a real deal.

how would u save a few dimes when e6600 is much more expensive. the extra 2mb cache isnt' very noticeable in gaming

 

[General]

You would be wise to save a few dimes and get the E6600. Reason is the 6300 and 6400 have 2mb of cache and performance reflects that. The E6600 is only 300 dollars and a much faster chip, that is if you can get yours hands on any of them. Demand is high. the 6600 will at least keep you happy for a much longer time. And the 6600 is faster then even the faster AMD chips right now. So it's a real deal.

how would u save a few dimes when e6600 is much more expensive. the extra 2mb cache isnt' very noticeable in gaming
Little difference. On average, about 3.5% difference, and ranging from 0-10%, which you can't even notice.
Is the diffrence much greater when using slower memory?

 

[1Tanker]

Is there any difference beside the clock speed.

I mean if i were to overclock my E6300 to the same clock speed as the E6400 would everything be the same?

In fact the E6300 will be as good or better than a stock E6400, as the FSB will be @ 304 vs 266 for the E6400. That's not much difference, but it should slightly outperform the E6400. It might run 1-2C hotter, but i doubt it, and stability shouldn't be an issue... assuming your RAM can run @ 608 MHz, and you have a decent motherboard.

 

[cyborg_ninja-117]

one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

 

[1Tanker]

one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.

 

[cyborg_ninja-117]

one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speed

 

[1Tanker]

one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speedFail....

That's pretty much what i said.

 

[cyborg_ninja-117]

one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speedFail....

That's pretty much what i said.

=/ give a guy who just woke up a break, thought he meant potential OC and stuff

 

[1Tanker]

one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speedFail....

That's pretty much what i said.

=/ give a guy who just woke up a break, thought he meant potential OC and stuffPass...


I'm just teasing ya, i saw all the fails you gave out yesterday.

 

[cyborg_ninja-117]

one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speedFail....

That's pretty much what i said.

=/ give a guy who just woke up a break, thought he meant potential OC and stuffPass...


I'm just teasing ya, i saw all the fails you gave out yesterday.

it all started on another forum

 

[YO_KID37]

But the Question Comes to be Which Series the 2Mb or the 4Mb L2 Cache Conroe Processers are hitting the 4Ghz line? From what i've seen the 4mb L2 are being taken to WorldRecord Benchmarks Rather than the Budget Conroes. I don't know what which one will Be better but i bet my 2 cents that getting the E6600 in a overclockers perspective will be the better choise(overclocking potential)

 

[1Tanker]

But the Question Comes to be Which Series the 2Mb or the 4Mb L2 Cache Conroe Processers are hitting the 4Ghz line? From what i've seen the 4mb L2 are being taken to WorldRecord Benchmarks Rather than the Budget Conroes. I don't know what which one will Be better but i bet my 2 cents that getting the E6600 in a overclockers perspective will be the better choise(overclocking potential)

He didn't even mention the 6600, or 4 GHz. He was just comparing the E6300 and E6400....Nothing more!

 

[YO_KID37]

Oh, I was answering some other Question just being pitched around. Yea' I'd suspect It's better For The Overclockers To buy the bottom of the Bin and just Overclock to the higher Levels. for the 2Mb line the 6300 O/C'd to 6400ish levels maybe a bit more if your getting cool enough tempratures. The Money you can save from overclocking can get you a better Cooling element or complete cooling system. For him the E6300 is best O/C'd rather than stock E6400, If he desides he wants a bigger cache he can get the E6600

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

i c so , in terms of stability when overclocked, the two chips should be around same temperature, etc if they are clocked at the same speed?

Technically, yes. But when you are overclocking you are increasing the fequency of the CPU instead of the multiplier whichs causes the CPU to work harder, so to speak.

In the end, the difference shouldn't be very big, but in my opinion (non professional) the E6400 at stock speed of 2.13GHz will be slightly cooler than the E6300 overclocked to 2.13GHz.

Meaning that the cooler you are the faster you run. Performance is on the side of cooler things. If you get a e6300 and don't overclock it you should have a nice setup.

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

Meaning that the cooler you are the faster you run. Performance is on the side of cooler things. If you get a e6300 and don't overclock it you should have a nice setup.

I don't agree with you.

As a general rule, inside of the same architecture: The faster clock speeds go the higher temps will go.

High temps won't slow your computer down (except SpeedStep, etc), it will make it unstable and crash.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Meaning that the cooler you are the faster you run. Performance is on the side of cooler things. If you get a e6300 and don't overclock it you should have a nice setup.

I don't agree with you.

As a general rule, inside of the same architecture: The faster clock speeds go the higher temps will go.

High temps won't slow your computer down (except SpeedStep, etc), it will make it unstable and crash.

Thank you for that!

Then there should be no reason why gRapz wouldn't want to get a e6400 and overclock it to the max for hishest performance in the dollar range.

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

Thank you for that!

Then there should be no reason why gRapz wouldn't want to get a e6400 and overclock it to the max for hishest performance in the dollar range.

I agree with you about overclocking. Overclock those bad boys so that they're still stable yet providing even more performance. Core 2 Duo users are going to want to carefully choose their mobo if overclocking is their intention.

 

[chuckshissle]

Both are very good overclocking cpu and could match the E6600 and E6700.

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

Both are very good overclocking cpu and could match the E6600 and E6700.

In frequency, but the lack of the 4MB L2 cache will hurt performance in some applications.

 

[cxl]

Actually, the really interesting questions is whether 6300 and 6400 have different dies, or are the same die as 4MB models with half of cache faulty/disabled.

I could imagine that if these are with faulty caches, 6400 should overclock quite well..