EA discusses with ATI for BF:V issues...

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FYI. (4/9/2004)
http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/vietnam/us/editorial.jsp?src=community_update_06

ATI Card Users
We are currently discussing with ATI the issues with BFV and certain
high-end ATI cards. As an interim solution, if you turn off
Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering you will have a much better
playing experience.
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:04:42 -0500, ANTant@zimage.com wrote:

>ATI Card Users
>We are currently discussing with ATI the issues with BFV and certain
>high-end ATI cards. As an interim solution, if you turn off
>Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering you will have a much better
>playing experience.

I thought the latest Cats addressed problems with BF:V?
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> I thought the latest Cats addressed problems with BF:V?

Not for me, I still get some funny little corruptions on the vehicles when I
set everything to high. Performance seems a tad better with the 4.4 drivers.

The notes only mention BF1942, nothing about BFV

 

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Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> Ran in the back door and shouted
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> On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:04:42 -0500, ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
>
>>ATI Card Users
>>We are currently discussing with ATI the issues with BFV and certain
>>high-end ATI cards. As an interim solution, if you turn off
>>Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering you will have a much better
>>playing experience.
>
> I thought the latest Cats addressed problems with BF:V?

Not completely;
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/Catalyst_44_Release_Notes.html

<snippet>
Enabling AF to 8x and running the game Battlefield Vietnam with the
graphics set to high and the display set to 1280x1024 32bpp results in
display corruption being seen at a certain point of the game. Further
information on this issue can be found at:
www.ati.com/support/infobase/4500.html

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Two things here. I own a Radeon 9800 and have been disconnected from EVERY
game on EVERY server since I installed it 2 weeks ago. I have tweaked so
many things, that I *know* it is a BFV issue. Secondly, Radeon 9800 owners
cannot turn off AA and AF. We can only chose "application preference". Nice
one EA.





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> FYI. (4/9/2004)
>
http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/vietnam/us/editorial.jsp?src=community_update_06
>
> ATI Card Users
> We are currently discussing with ATI the issues with BFV and certain
> high-end ATI cards. As an interim solution, if you turn off
> Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering you will have a much better
> playing experience.
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:23:28 GMT, "Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote:

>Secondly, Radeon 9800 owners
>cannot turn off AA and AF. We can only chose "application preference". Nice
>one EA.

If you don't turn on FSAA/AF in the application, then it will be off.
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"Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
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> Two things here. I own a Radeon 9800 and have been disconnected from EVERY
> game on EVERY server since I installed it 2 weeks ago.

This is not the radeon issue. The radeon problem is artifacts on vehicles.
Without AA/AS it should work fine. More likely based on disconnects from
every game is a punkbuster, or local firewall issue.

Lorian.

 

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Dont you hate it when someone comes along and says they are running BFV with
2xAA and 8xAF on a 9800XT and getting no artifacts? I dont, coz thats what
im doing, using CAT4.4's and Radlinker. The 3D settings in ATi's control
panel are set to application preference, but then overridden by using the
Radlinker Tab in the control panel to set 2xAA and 8xAF (Forced). Inside
the game all the settings are up to high/very high, and not an artifact in
sight.

CrimsonLiar

"Lorian" <nospam@lorian.nod> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike B" <geldof@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:Av5ec.9157$Nr3.675@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Two things here. I own a Radeon 9800 and have been disconnected from
EVERY
> > game on EVERY server since I installed it 2 weeks ago.
>
> This is not the radeon issue. The radeon problem is artifacts on vehicles.
> Without AA/AS it should work fine. More likely based on disconnects from
> every game is a punkbuster, or local firewall issue.
>
> Lorian.
>
>

 

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"CrimsonLiar" <trash@trash.com> wrote in message
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> Dont you hate it when someone comes along and says they are running BFV
with
> 2xAA and 8xAF on a 9800XT and getting no artifacts? I dont, coz thats
what
> im doing, using CAT4.4's and Radlinker. The 3D settings in ATi's control
> panel are set to application preference, but then overridden by using the
> Radlinker Tab in the control panel to set 2xAA and 8xAF (Forced). Inside
> the game all the settings are up to high/very high, and not an artifact in
> sight.

I don't hate it, but it didn't help for me. Nice tool but still get the
artifacts. They are not everywhere - try walking around a Phantom on Flaming
dart while looking just behind the cabin, for example.

Lorian.

 

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I know, change my settings or dont use Radlinker to override the AA & AF and
I can see the artifacts like everyone else on the bridges, all types of
crafts, walls etc.

CrimsonLiar

> I don't hate it, but it didn't help for me. Nice tool but still get the
> artifacts. They are not everywhere - try walking around a Phantom on
Flaming
> dart while looking just behind the cabin, for example.
>
> Lorian.
>
>

 

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"CrimsonLiar" <trash@trash.com> wrote in message
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> I know, change my settings or dont use Radlinker to override the AA & AF
and
> I can see the artifacts like everyone else on the bridges, all types of
> crafts, walls etc.

Can you do a screen print of the settings your using, or list them?

Are you creating a radink profile or changing te settings in the radlink
menu added to the ATI device menu?

Lorian.

 

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Setting a Radlink on the .EXE file doesnt work, the first time the program
re-initialises itself the artifacts come back, and it also means you cant
start from the CD menu. Its necessary to set the Radlink Settings from the
ATI device menu.

The settings I use in the Radlink tab of the ATI device menu are as follows:

Anistropic Filtering: 8x Forced
Full Screen Anti-Aliasing: 2x
Texture Preference: High Quality
Mipmap Detail Level: High Quality
Z Buffer Depth: 16,24;8 bit stencil
Wait for Verticle Sync: Always Off


The in-game graphics settings are:

Display Mode: 1280x960x32
Graphics Quality: Highest
Geometry Quality: High
Texture Quality: High
Lightmaps: On
Shadows: On


CrimsonLiar


"Lorian" <nospam@lorian.nod> wrote in message
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>
> Can you do a screen print of the settings your using, or list them?
>
> Are you creating a radink profile or changing te settings in the radlink
> menu added to the ATI device menu?
>
> Lorian.

 

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"CrimsonLiar" <trash@trash.com> wrote in message
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> Setting a Radlink on the .EXE file doesnt work, the first time the program
> re-initialises itself the artifacts come back, and it also means you cant
> start from the CD menu. Its necessary to set the Radlink Settings from
the
> ATI device menu.
>
> The settings I use in the Radlink tab of the ATI device menu are as
follows:
>
> Anistropic Filtering: 8x Forced
> Full Screen Anti-Aliasing: 2x
> Texture Preference: High Quality
> Mipmap Detail Level: High Quality
> Z Buffer Depth: 16,24;8 bit stencil
> Wait for Verticle Sync: Always Off

That did the trick, thanks.

Lorian.

 

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 15:44:42 +0100, "CrimsonLiar" <trash@trash.com>
wrote/replied to:

>The settings I use in the Radlink tab of the ATI device menu are as follows:
>
>Anistropic Filtering: 8x Forced
>Full Screen Anti-Aliasing: 2x
>Texture Preference: High Quality
>Mipmap Detail Level: High Quality
>Z Buffer Depth: 16,24;8 bit stencil
>Wait for Verticle Sync: Always Off

Weird, I don't get any of those setting in the Radlinker tab. Only
settings to overclock.

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:46:24 +0900, Jim Davis Nature Photography
<JBDavis@hkg.odn.ne.jp> wrote:


>Weird, I don't get any of those setting in the Radlinker tab. Only
>settings to overclock.

You have to create a radlink to a game exe first. Right click a game
exe file and select create radlink, now right click the shortcut file
it creates and select properties. See? Use this file to run the game
and it will use any of the settings you set just for that game.

 

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:46:24 +0900, Jim Davis Nature Photography
<JBDavis@hkg.odn.ne.jp> wrote:


>Weird, I don't get any of those setting in the Radlinker tab. Only
>settings to overclock.

Oops, I just went back and read what they said and they are saying
they can change radlink settings from within the desktop display
settings. I don't have that either. What's the secret guys?

 

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"Slug" <slug@no_email.here> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:46:24 +0900, Jim Davis Nature Photography
> <JBDavis@hkg.odn.ne.jp> wrote:
>
>
> >Weird, I don't get any of those setting in the Radlinker tab. Only
> >settings to overclock.
>
> Oops, I just went back and read what they said and they are saying
> they can change radlink settings from within the desktop display
> settings. I don't have that either. What's the secret guys?

Beats me I'm afraid, the menu option just turns up with all the other ATI
menu options. The one I downloaded was radlinker1006.zip.

Lorian.

 

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I think its a recent feature, you may need to update Radlinker. As you
rightly noted just creating and altering the Radlinker properties for the
..EXE file doesnt work as you lose them when the game resets (between maps
for example).

CrimsonLiar

"Slug" <slug@no_email.here> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:46:24 +0900, Jim Davis Nature Photography
> <JBDavis@hkg.odn.ne.jp> wrote:
>
>
> >Weird, I don't get any of those setting in the Radlinker tab. Only
> >settings to overclock.
>
> Oops, I just went back and read what they said and they are saying
> they can change radlink settings from within the desktop display
> settings. I don't have that either. What's the secret guys?

 

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http://www28.brinkster.com/chrisww1942/ (last updated on 3/24/2004).


In alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati CrimsonLiar <trash@trash.com> wrote:
> I think its a recent feature, you may need to update Radlinker. As you
> rightly noted just creating and altering the Radlinker properties for the
> .EXE file doesnt work as you lose them when the game resets (between maps
> for example).

> CrimsonLiar

> "Slug" <slug@no_email.here> wrote in message
> news:3ock70dvltn68cpffan74u40lp83e9j3fn@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:46:24 +0900, Jim Davis Nature Photography
> > <JBDavis@hkg.odn.ne.jp> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >Weird, I don't get any of those setting in the Radlinker tab. Only
> > >settings to overclock.
> >
> > Oops, I just went back and read what they said and they are saying
> > they can change radlink settings from within the desktop display
> > settings. I don't have that either. What's the secret guys?
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In alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati CrimsonLiar <trash@trash.com> wrote:
> I think its a recent feature, you may need to update Radlinker. As you
> rightly noted just creating and altering the Radlinker properties for the
> .EXE file doesnt work as you lose them when the game resets (between maps
> for example).

Is there a way to keep the settings stay until I quit the game? Resetting
in game is annoying.
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Yes if you set the 2x AA and 8xAF(Forced) in the ATi display properties,
rather than creating a Radlink on the games .EXE file (thats the one you
reach by right clicking on a blank bit of your windows desktop or by going
in via the control panel).

Radlink can be found at: http://www.radlinker.com/

CrimsonLiar

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> In alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati CrimsonLiar <trash@trash.com> wrote:
> > I think its a recent feature, you may need to update Radlinker. As you
> > rightly noted just creating and altering the Radlinker properties for
the
> > .EXE file doesnt work as you lose them when the game resets (between
maps
> > for example).
>
> Is there a way to keep the settings stay until I quit the game? Resetting
> in game is annoying.
> --
> "When you can't fight on and drop to die; you're just a big tasty
> feast for the crows, ants, buzzards and flies." --unknown
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Err, I meant to keep the settings intact with RadLink.


In alt.games.battlefield1942 CrimsonLiar <trash@trash.com> wrote:
> Yes if you set the 2x AA and 8xAF(Forced) in the ATi display properties,
> rather than creating a Radlink on the games .EXE file (thats the one you
> reach by right clicking on a blank bit of your windows desktop or by going
> in via the control panel).

> Radlink can be found at: http://www.radlinker.com/


> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> > In alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati CrimsonLiar <trash@trash.com> wrote:
> > > I think its a recent feature, you may need to update Radlinker. As you
> > > rightly noted just creating and altering the Radlinker properties for
> the
> > > .EXE file doesnt work as you lose them when the game resets (between
> maps
> > > for example).
> >
> > Is there a way to keep the settings stay until I quit the game? Resetting
> > in game is annoying.
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You dont want to use Radlink to change the global settings in the ATi Device
Panel? Sorry withou putting the settings in there, I cant find a way to do
it, and god knows I've tried. All other methods fall over as soon as the
game resets, say inbetween maps.

CrimsonLiar

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> Err, I meant to keep the settings intact with RadLink.

 

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No, I only wanted to change the video settings only for BF games. Anistropic
seems to hold for a long time, not FSAA.

I got an e-mail from Chris W., the author of RadLink, since I forwarded
him a copy of this newsgroup thread. Here's his reply:

"You need to use the timeout counter. 3 seconds should cover it."


I already had 5 in the timeout counter. Hmm. I do recall previous drivers
didn't show this problem, but I don't remember it clearly. How about you?
Is it happening for all Catalyst drivers?


In alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati CrimsonLiar <trash@trash.com> wrote:
> You dont want to use Radlink to change the global settings in the ATi Device
> Panel? Sorry withou putting the settings in there, I cant find a way to do
> it, and god knows I've tried. All other methods fall over as soon as the
> game resets, say inbetween maps.

> CrimsonLiar

> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> > Err, I meant to keep the settings intact with RadLink.
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