Question Ebay SSDs ?

forestfire · Sep 25, 2023

Hello, I bought some used Dell SSDs, 240gb dated 2020. 100% on Crystal disk, hundreds of hours use.
I put them into HP800 G2s and after optimizing the pcs and windows10 as much as possible it takes 22-26 seconds to boot them. Too slow for me.

Today I needed a SSD for my G1 so I took this one and it booted in 15/16 seconds. Seemed strange so I took a different SSD and put it in a different G1. Again the boot speed is 10 seconds faster.
I had thought that I had bought low quality SSDs but now I don't know what is happening. Any thoughts?

helpstar · Sep 26, 2023

After restart or boot after shutdown?

fast start enabled in windows?
all drivers up to date?
firmware of the SSDs up to date?
BIOS of the G2 up to date?

GPT or MBR formatted?

check autostart applications

CountMike · Sep 26, 2023

forestfire said:
Hello, I bought some used Dell SSDs, 240gb dated 2020. 100% on Crystal disk, hundreds of hours use.
I put them into HP800 G2s and after optimizing the pcs and windows10 as much as possible it takes 22-26 seconds to boot them. Too slow for me.
Today I needed a SSD for my G1 so I took this one and it booted in 15/16 seconds. Seemed strange so I took a different SSD and put it in a different G1. Again the boot speed is 10 seconds faster.
I had thought that I had bought low quality SSDs but now I don't know what is happening. Any thoughts?

BOOT time doesn't depend on disk speed alone. other performance factor in too. CPU, RAM etc. During POST time, BIOS has to initialize and check all components and that can take some time. It also has to find BOOT options in the OS and that may depend on OS and it's installation. Only after that OS starts with loading drivers and GUI part is last. During that time it may look for updates too.

forestfire · Sep 30, 2023

helpstar said:
After restart or boot after shutdown?

fast start enabled in windows?
all drivers up to date?
firmware of the SSDs up to date?
BIOS of the G2 up to date?

GPT or MBR formatted?

check autostart applications

Thank you for responding.
After shutdown
Fast Start enabled (disabling made negligable difference)
Drivers up to date
DK about the firmware, will check
BIOS up to date
GPT
No applications on start up.

forestfire · Sep 30, 2023

CountMike said:
BOOT time doesn't depend on disk speed alone. other performance factor in too. CPU, RAM etc. During POST time, BIOS has to initialize and check all components and that can take some time. It also has to find BOOT options in the OS and that may depend on OS and it's installation. Only after that OS starts with loading drivers and GUI part is last. During that time it may look for updates too.

Thank you for responding. What you say makes sense but I am not sure how to turn your reply into actionable things to try.

CountMike · Oct 1, 2023

forestfire said:
Thank you for responding. What you say makes sense but I am not sure how to turn your reply into actionable things to try.

First thing would be to monitor BOOT time during at least 2 periods. 1st one is from pressing start button until OS starts actually loading, that's usually time when MB logo disappears and screen goes black. If there's an option, set BIOS to not display the logo so it displays POST as it's going on. For that part BIOS is responsible no matter which OS.
Second part is during loading of OS and that time is partially dependent on disk/storage speed, some on memory and CPU and what OS has to do during that time, It always starts with loading drivers, windows displays a circle during that time until desktop appears and than proceeds with loading auto start programs and functions and may also look for updates.
There are programs that can help in more or less fine distinction of those phases,