ECONOMICAL decision for GAMING PC

[Girts_Pirts]

Hey, guys!

The question is--> How much I would save if I don't buy PC now, but wait about 2-3 months (end of the summer) and then buy it? Prices for parts will get lower significently or it really doesn't matter if I buy now or 2-3 months later?

BUILD-->
I am considering to buy exactly this system:


CPU-Intel® Core™ i5-4670K (Box) BX80646I54670K 210,10 €
MB-Asus Z87-PRO Z87-PRO 162,90 €
GPU-Sapphire R9 290 4GB GDDR5/TRI-X OC 390,80 €
SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 250GB Basic MZ-7TE250BW 134,40 €
RAM-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB 1866MHz (Black) 65,70 €
PSU-Enermax Revolution X't 730W ERX730AWT 114,10 €
CPU GREASE-Arctic Cooling MX-4 4g 7,00 €
CPU COOLER-Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 33,00 €
HDD-Seagate HDD Desktop Barracuda 2Tb ST2000DM001 73,90 €
CASE- FRACTILE DESIGN R4 BLACK PEARL 80,00€


Total of 1270 €

 

[Traciatim]

Prices will only move very slightly unless something big and new comes out that significantly alters performance/price ratios, which isn't looking all that great for 2014 with all the fab delays.

You could even have another flood/fire scenario that causes prices to spike on some items. There is really no use trying to price time your purchase, just buy it when you have the money and have the parts and price you are happy with.

Just an FYI, that machine will use no where near the 730 watt power supply, you could probably save that cash by going with something in the 500-600 watt range instead.

 

[Rugnir_Viking]

Hey, guys!

The question is--> How much I would save if I don't buy PC now, but wait about 2-3 months (end of the summer) and then buy it? Prices for parts will get lower significently or it really doesn't matter if I buy now or 2-3 months later?

BUILD-->
I am considering to buy exactly this system:


CPU-Intel® Core™ i5-4670K (Box) BX80646I54670K 210,10 €
MB-Asus Z87-PRO Z87-PRO 162,90 €
GPU-Sapphire R9 290 4GB GDDR5/TRI-X OC 390,80 €
SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 250GB Basic MZ-7TE250BW 134,40 €
RAM-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB 1866MHz (Black) 65,70 €
PSU-Enermax Revolution X't 730W ERX730AWT 114,10 €
CPU GREASE-Arctic Cooling MX-4 4g 7,00 €
CPU COOLER-Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 33,00 €
HDD-Seagate HDD Desktop Barracuda 2Tb ST2000DM001 73,90 €
CASE- FRACTILE DESIGN R4 BLACK PEARL 80,00€


Total of 1270 €

The thing about computer parts is that if you wait, newer parts might come out that are better. So really, you might be waiting forever until the best parts are cheap, because new good parts will come out. I would suggest you buy now, and enjoy the pc for a few extra months. That way the parts you buy will play the newest games for a little bit longer because you will have all the time up to the summer

 

[Onus]

If people finally realize that fiat currency is really just worthless paper, printed at will by and for parasites who produce nothing of value, prices could go through the roof. I would not count on prices being lower by the end of the summer.

 

[i7Baby]

Z87 will drop with the intro of Z97 - cpu and mobos.
290's are dropping as bit miners realise its not profitable
There are cheaper ssds every week

In 2-3 months you could pay 30 - 80 euro less for that build

 

[Girts_Pirts]

Prices will only move very slightly unless something big and new comes out that significantly alters performance/price ratios, which isn't looking all that great for 2014 with all the fab delays.

You could even have another flood/fire scenario that causes prices to spike on some items. There is really no use trying to price time your purchase, just buy it when you have the money and have the parts and price you are happy with.

Just an FYI, that machine will use no where near the 730 watt power supply, you could probably save that cash by going with something in the 500-600 watt range instead.

Thanks, dude.
But about PSU--> GPU manufacturer says, that 750 W PSU is recommended. Besides, I am going to overclock my rig.

 

[Rugnir_Viking]

Prices will only move very slightly unless something big and new comes out that significantly alters performance/price ratios, which isn't looking all that great for 2014 with all the fab delays.

You could even have another flood/fire scenario that causes prices to spike on some items. There is really no use trying to price time your purchase, just buy it when you have the money and have the parts and price you are happy with.

Just an FYI, that machine will use no where near the 730 watt power supply, you could probably save that cash by going with something in the 500-600 watt range instead.

Thanks, dude.
But about PSU--> GPU manufacturer says, that 750 W PSU is recommended. Besides, I am going to overclock my rig.

I really can't see any gpu/cpu configuration pulling more than 600w without some sort of crossfire/extreme overclocking.
You should be pretty safe, even with an AMD processor pulling 220 or more watts at stock it would be fine

 

[Girts_Pirts]

Ok. Thanks guys!

Finally I will be joining "MASTER RACE" after 7 years of console gaming (PS3).
Had to choose between new Playstation 4 and PC--> Hope I have done the right decision.

 

[Traciatim]

Prices will only move very slightly unless something big and new comes out that significantly alters performance/price ratios, which isn't looking all that great for 2014 with all the fab delays.

You could even have another flood/fire scenario that causes prices to spike on some items. There is really no use trying to price time your purchase, just buy it when you have the money and have the parts and price you are happy with.

Just an FYI, that machine will use no where near the 730 watt power supply, you could probably save that cash by going with something in the 500-600 watt range instead.

Thanks, dude.
But about PSU--> GPU manufacturer says, that 750 W PSU is recommended. Besides, I am going to overclock my rig.

Yeah, and my machine is a 3570k with a GTX670 with 2 spinning disks and an SSD plus a couple of extra case fans. It's peak usage from the wall is about 305 watts measured from the plug, which means for my 80Plus gold supply it's pushing out about 275-280 watts. If you added 75 for your more powerful video card and a hefty overclock it would still only be 350-355 being supplied. Pretty much any good quality 500 watt supply can push that out for years.

They have to say a 750 because some tool is going to spend 20 dollars on a piece of junk 500 watt supply that melts his gear when it gets to half capacity and then blame the company. If you buy a quality supply you don't really need a huge amount of power these days. For the past few years teh big push has been on efficiency and lower power usage.

 

[Girts_Pirts]

Prices will only move very slightly unless something big and new comes out that significantly alters performance/price ratios, which isn't looking all that great for 2014 with all the fab delays.

You could even have another flood/fire scenario that causes prices to spike on some items. There is really no use trying to price time your purchase, just buy it when you have the money and have the parts and price you are happy with.

Just an FYI, that machine will use no where near the 730 watt power supply, you could probably save that cash by going with something in the 500-600 watt range instead.

Thanks, dude.
But about PSU--> GPU manufacturer says, that 750 W PSU is recommended. Besides, I am going to overclock my rig.

Yeah, and my machine is a 3570k with a GTX670 with 2 spinning disks and an SSD plus a couple of extra case fans. It's peak usage from the wall is about 305 watts measured from the plug, which means for my 80Plus gold supply it's pushing out about 275-280 watts. If you added 75 for your more powerful video card and a hefty overclock it would still only be 350-355 being supplied. Pretty much any good quality 500 watt supply can push that out for years.

They have to say a 750 because some tool is going to spend 20 dollars on a piece of junk 500 watt supply that melts his gear when it gets to half capacity and then blame the company. If you buy a quality supply you don't really need a huge amount of power these days. For the past few years teh big push has been on efficiency and lower power usage.

Well--> This review (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6142/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-tri-x-4gb-oc-overclocked-video-card-review/index23.html) says that Reference R9 290 system consumes about ~ 500 W. Considering, that this is Non-reference OC version which I will OC myself--> The wattage would then be around ~550-600 W.
Ofcourse, we all know, that healthy power consumption for PSU is about ~ 80 % of it's full potentional. So-> my PSU (730 W) is bare minimum.

 

[Traciatim]

Prices will only move very slightly unless something big and new comes out that significantly alters performance/price ratios, which isn't looking all that great for 2014 with all the fab delays.

You could even have another flood/fire scenario that causes prices to spike on some items. There is really no use trying to price time your purchase, just buy it when you have the money and have the parts and price you are happy with.

Just an FYI, that machine will use no where near the 730 watt power supply, you could probably save that cash by going with something in the 500-600 watt range instead.

Thanks, dude.
But about PSU--> GPU manufacturer says, that 750 W PSU is recommended. Besides, I am going to overclock my rig.

Yeah, and my machine is a 3570k with a GTX670 with 2 spinning disks and an SSD plus a couple of extra case fans. It's peak usage from the wall is about 305 watts measured from the plug, which means for my 80Plus gold supply it's pushing out about 275-280 watts. If you added 75 for your more powerful video card and a hefty overclock it would still only be 350-355 being supplied. Pretty much any good quality 500 watt supply can push that out for years.

They have to say a 750 because some tool is going to spend 20 dollars on a piece of junk 500 watt supply that melts his gear when it gets to half capacity and then blame the company. If you buy a quality supply you don't really need a huge amount of power these days. For the past few years teh big push has been on efficiency and lower power usage.

Well--> This review (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6142/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-tri-x-4gb-oc-overclocked-video-card-review/index23.html) says that Reference R9 290 system consumes about ~ 500 W. Considering, that this is Non-reference OC version which I will OC myself--> The wattage would then be around ~550-600 W.
Ofcourse, we all know, that healthy power consumption for PSU is about ~ 80 % of it's full potentional. So-> my PSU (730 W) is bare minimum.

Right, and their processor is a 3960x with a very aggressive overclock, known for using well over 200 watts on it's own... where your would be an i5 4670k, which won't use over 100.

So on the easy side you take 100 off the top of their 484 which puts it at 384 (and that's being conservative because of their CPU to yours) and then figure out how much the PSU is actually supplying. Since it would be using 384 from the wall and they have an 80+ gold supply it would be 384 * .92 = 353.

What was my estimate again? Oh right, 350 -355.

 

[Girts_Pirts]

Prices will only move very slightly unless something big and new comes out that significantly alters performance/price ratios, which isn't looking all that great for 2014 with all the fab delays.

You could even have another flood/fire scenario that causes prices to spike on some items. There is really no use trying to price time your purchase, just buy it when you have the money and have the parts and price you are happy with.

Just an FYI, that machine will use no where near the 730 watt power supply, you could probably save that cash by going with something in the 500-600 watt range instead.

Thanks, dude.
But about PSU--> GPU manufacturer says, that 750 W PSU is recommended. Besides, I am going to overclock my rig.

Yeah, and my machine is a 3570k with a GTX670 with 2 spinning disks and an SSD plus a couple of extra case fans. It's peak usage from the wall is about 305 watts measured from the plug, which means for my 80Plus gold supply it's pushing out about 275-280 watts. If you added 75 for your more powerful video card and a hefty overclock it would still only be 350-355 being supplied. Pretty much any good quality 500 watt supply can push that out for years.

They have to say a 750 because some tool is going to spend 20 dollars on a piece of junk 500 watt supply that melts his gear when it gets to half capacity and then blame the company. If you buy a quality supply you don't really need a huge amount of power these days. For the past few years teh big push has been on efficiency and lower power usage.

Well--> This review (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6142/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-tri-x-4gb-oc-overclocked-video-card-review/index23.html) says that Reference R9 290 system consumes about ~ 500 W. Considering, that this is Non-reference OC version which I will OC myself--> The wattage would then be around ~550-600 W.
Ofcourse, we all know, that healthy power consumption for PSU is about ~ 80 % of it's full potentional. So-> my PSU (730 W) is bare minimum.

Right, and their processor is a 3960x with a very aggressive overclock, known for using well over 200 watts on it's own... where your would be an i5 4670k, which won't use over 100.

So on the easy side you take 100 off the top of their 484 which puts it at 384 (and that's being conservative because of their CPU to yours) and then figure out how much the PSU is actually supplying. Since it would be using 384 from the wall and they have an 80+ gold supply it would be 384 * .92 = 353.

What was my estimate again? Oh right, 350 -355.

Thanks for the math. 😉
Well, then I just don't have to wory about getting a new (bigger) PSU (after a year or so) for Crossfire R9 290's.
This site (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r9_290_review_benchmarks,10.html) confirms, that with my PSU (730 W) would be enough.