daveflower,
i want to thank you for your assistance,I usually don't have trouble locating manuals but occasionally it happens. I ordered this motherboard from ebay, it appears to be new , i believe it was left over stock and i wanted toi be prepared when it arrives to install it. repairing used systems is more of a hobby, i do not like working on dell systems mostly because dell doesn't help anyone but, asus,ecs,biostar and others are much easier to repair, I went to school when the 486 was the top of the line,many things have chaged since then but the basics are still in use.
thanks again and have a great day !
missmartha