Eh, confused on which I should get.

[ArielAtom]

I'm going to buy a new CPU soon and I'm confused on which I should get. I have no budget (within reason). I also know the motherboards that go with each.

My uses are:
Gaming
Small-amount of photo editing.
Rare 3D rendering.
Video encoding.

My musts are:
Support for more than 4 cores.
Overclockable.
Fast.
It doesn't get so hot that I could cook dinner on it.

I'm looking at the 8350, 3770k and the 8320. I say AMD because of the potential upgrading later.

 

[Kraszmyl]

Well you're pretty much stuck with the 3770k since you don't want it to be hot. Tho if youre willing to give up overclocking http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286 will save you some cash if that's why you were considering amd.

 

[ethereal essence]

Well the i7 has only 4 physical cores and the 6 and 8 core models are extremely expensive (500 and 1000 or so). AMD's steamroller line is just around the corner so that upgrade path is definitely nice to look forward to. If you don't plan on upgrading soon after it comes out then definitely go with the 8350.

if you want to go with the steamroller right away then the 6350 is just 139.00 and is pretty close to the 8350 in most games.

and just make sure that you go with the 990fx chipset motherboards for amd if you want to overclock. most 970 can't do very well on over clocking due to the vrms not being able to handle the increased power.

edit:
As far as heat goes, any cpu will need a good aftermarket cooler to keep cool while overclocking. Also, the i7 is better for gaming, not by a whole lot in most games but still, it is better.

 

[8350rocks]

Ok, strictly because you're doing quite a bit of heavily threaded stuff, particularly video encoding and 3D modeling.

I would say go with AMD...if you have no budget within reason...here's a build I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16LAH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16LAH/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/16LAH/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Corsair Force Series GT 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 6GB Video Card ($506.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-14D1XT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1730.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-15 17:40 EDT-0400)

You could go with a standard GHz edition 7970 instead of the Toxic and save about $100 if you wanted...you could also cut back on the SSD to 120 GB if you wanted and cut costs by another $80 or so too.

 

[Tradesman1]

For what you list, I'd go 3570K or 4670K, both beat the 8350 hands down and if past performance is any indication from the Dull Dozer and the VileDrive then then Steambowler will prob fit in just behind the 4670K....I know, AMD says different, but the 8159 was (according to AMD) wipe the 2599K and even challenge the 2600K) they also said the 8350 would take the 3570K with no problem, and it (head to head) was basically on a par with the 2500K of the previous generation (except in video rendering)....and with the new AMD based on the same architecture as VileDriver, don't look for any stronger DRAM support, (they may get to touching 2 sticks of 2133)

 

[8350rocks]

Video encoding and rendering are 2 strong suits of AMD architecture...both of which are among the things he does.

 

[Tradesman1]

'Rare' so most everything else would gain more benefit from overall power

 

[8350rocks]

Photoshop:

Blender:

Cinebench:

Handbrake:

Crysis 3:

Bioshock Infinite:

Tomb Raider:

Looks like it's pretty close...

 

[Tradesman1]

At stock yes, but who runs a 3570K or any K model at stock? And if OCing, a few have shown a 1GHz increase on the 8350 where 1.2GHz is typical and many run a 1.4GHz OC (and a few up to 1.6GHz OC)--that's one of the problems I have w/BMs

 

[8350rocks]

Sources? You're exaggerating so much it isn't funny...and if you're talking about 4th Gen E series, that won't be out until after IB-E, which isn't out yet either...they're still selling X79 MBs and SB-E CPUs with not a word about IB-E yet.

So..."about to release an 8 core" really means it's at least 12-18 months away...by that time who knows where everything will be...?

 

[ArielAtom]

I think I'll go with AMD. I've never been the biggest fan of them, but for the value, it can't really be beaten, plus it can overclock, since I already have an H100. 5 GHz here I come lol.

 

[8350rocks]

Good luck man, please share some solution love

 

[ArielAtom]

Does it have to be unlocked? Or is it from factory?

 

[ethereal essence]

Intel will be making an 8 core haswell cpu soon should take similar power consumption to an fx4100 and destroy the 220w tdp fx9000 series cpu. fx8350 will dissipate out more heat as its the most power guzzling cpu out now and needs a lot of cooling.

Intel i7 3rd or 4th gen quads are much better then the fx8350 for future and for now. There are sometimes where the fx8350 matches the 3770k or beats it just on multithreaded benchmarks but they are very rare.

Note the fx8350 takes on average around 90-100w more then an i7 3770k on stress load cpu test so it adds up if you use your cpu to the limit a lot. You can get a 6000 3dmark11 score gpu and run an i7 3770k both stressed to 100% and take similar power consumption to one fx8350 cpu at 100%.

Instructions per clock IPC is where intel are 2x faster really hence 4 cores can compete against 8.

To beat an i5 intel cpu from sandy bridge onwards you have to basically get software to run all 8 cores at 100%, any software that doesn't intel will destroy it like gaming.

you sure love to exaggerate huh? tell me, does intel pay you for this or are you just that much of a fan boy?

 

[ethereal essence]

Does it have to be unlocked? Or is it from factory?

Its unlocked. I believe all the fx chips are, but i could be wrong on that.

 

[ArielAtom]

Also, when Steamroller comes out, can I just take the 8350 out and put it in? Or do I have to go buy another motherboard?

 

[Tradesman1]

If the 8350 can't keep up with the i5s overall, then obviously it won't touch the i7s, and as mentioned earlier since the Intels OC better from 'stock' clock, the i7s cost about $100 more than the i5s, but the i5s beat the 8350s already

 

[ethereal essence]

Steamroller will be AM3+ so yeah, just get yourself a good mobo now, since you aren't too worried about price, the asus sabertooth is a great mobo

 

[Tradesman1]

If track record prevails it will come up to par with the 3570K and slightly behind the 4670K, and will be almost immediately followed by Broadwell - this is a never ending cycle I really wish AMD would break, but StreamBowler is based on the same tech as was 8350 and the 8150

 

[L Helps]

Intel will be making an 8 core haswell cpu soon should take similar power consumption to an fx4100 and destroy the 220w tdp fx9000 series cpu. fx8350 will dissipate out more heat as its the most power guzzling cpu out now and needs a lot of cooling.

Intel i7 3rd or 4th gen quads are much better then the fx8350 for future and for now. There are sometimes where the fx8350 matches the 3770k or beats it just on multithreaded benchmarks but they are very rare.

Note the fx8350 takes on average around 90-100w more then an i7 3770k on stress load cpu test so it adds up if you use your cpu to the limit a lot. You can get a 6000 3dmark11 score gpu and run an i7 3770k both stressed to 100% and take similar power consumption to one fx8350 cpu at 100%.

Instructions per clock IPC is where intel are 2x faster really hence 4 cores can compete against 8.

To beat an i5 intel cpu from sandy bridge onwards you have to basically get software to run all 8 cores at 100%, any software that doesn't intel will destroy it like gaming.

you sure love to exaggerate huh? tell me, does intel pay you for this or are you just that much of a fan boy?

If you look at everything he commented it's so clear he is just a big fanboy

 

[8350rocks]

Intel will be making an 8 core haswell cpu soon should take similar power consumption to an fx4100 and destroy the 220w tdp fx9000 series cpu. fx8350 will dissipate out more heat as its the most power guzzling cpu out now and needs a lot of cooling.

Intel i7 3rd or 4th gen quads are much better then the fx8350 for future and for now. There are sometimes where the fx8350 matches the 3770k or beats it just on multithreaded benchmarks but they are very rare.

Note the fx8350 takes on average around 90-100w more then an i7 3770k on stress load cpu test so it adds up if you use your cpu to the limit a lot. You can get a 6000 3dmark11 score gpu and run an i7 3770k both stressed to 100% and take similar power consumption to one fx8350 cpu at 100%.

Instructions per clock IPC is where intel are 2x faster really hence 4 cores can compete against 8.

To beat an i5 intel cpu from sandy bridge onwards you have to basically get software to run all 8 cores at 100%, any software that doesn't intel will destroy it like gaming.

you sure love to exaggerate huh? tell me, does intel pay you for this or are you just that much of a fan boy?

If you look at everything he commented it's so clear he is just a big fanboy

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