EKWB's Pricey EK-FCW9100 Could Be Worth The Money

[N.Broekhuijsen]

Can EKWB's pricey water block give you more performance-per-dollar than the stock cooler?

EKWB's Pricey EK-FCW9100 Could Be Worth The Money : Read more

 

[SchizoFrog]

Would it be so hard to extend the cooler, even if it was just a metal plate to hide the rest of the PCB? I really don't get these EK blocks that are so expensive and designed for high end GPUs that end up being so UGLY!

 

[alidan]

Would it be so hard to extend the cooler, even if it was just a metal plate to hide the rest of the PCB? I really don't get these EK blocks that are so expensive and designed for high end GPUs that end up being so UGLY!

you do know that this part of the block faces down right? you get a backplate if you want to "cover the ugly pcb"
this is also a pro card, not you ricer gaming "its faster because it looks cool" bs.

 

[gadgety]

"...brings the card profile down to a single-slot format."

This is a major improvement over stock.

 

[cypeq]

seriously water cooling is used by people wanting wide glow-pipes in their flashy chassis. OC on workstation hardware ? Is the wear and failure rate worth the few percent gains ?

 

[warmon6]

@cypeg.

No one said anything about "OC workstation hardware".

They said one of the issues with the card was the cooler and being the fact most WS hardare is not overclock by the people that use them probably reffers to that the card was overheating by a cooler that cant perform. A cooler that cant perform means a card cant perform at it's max performance. A card that cant perform at is best is a waste of $$$ for a bussness that would be using these cards.

Also water cooling has more uses than "people wanting wide glow pipes in their flashy chassis."

Have you heard that even data centers have water cooling for there data racks?
Goolge uses it in many different ways:
http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/efficiency/internal/#water-and-cooling

And other data centers are moving to it as well.


so if data centers are moving to water cooling, then it has a purpose beyond being "flashy".

Reason why is that water transfers heat away better from the source than the air could do and water cooling can make coolers more compact so you have room for additional stuff (thus why an air cooler is typically bigger than a water cooler).

On top of switching over to water cooling and having more compact coolers, if ther motherboards allow it, you could add additional cards that would wouldn't had room for with air cooled cards.

Meaning a bussness that depends on gpu(s) to get there work done, could have more cards in 1 machine to get work done faster which it could be 1 job running on all gpu's or multiple jobs spread across the gpu's. Thus even more $$$ earned.

Either way, benefits for water cooled WS hardware can be seen over air.

 

[EasyLover]

Water cooling gives more performance over air cooling: This is a common phenomena now a days. But can we say that putting a $160 water cooling block over say $600-700 780Ti would give the real value in terms of performance per dollar?

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

I think a few posters have missed the point here. This is an article pertaining to a single water block which is not intended for the high end gaming market. This block is for workstations specifically running Radeon FirePro W9100 graphics. Professionals don't usually spend time during their day looking into their workstation at it's components but they do however have to listen to the noises coming from the inside of the chassis. I think the water block is a good value for those who can use it. Perhaps options like this could be a value-added option during the initial purchase, so IT departments don't find themselves having to spend the time to swap coolers themselves?

 

[geogan]

Ah "workstation" graphics cards. Or how to charge 4 times as much to companies for the same graphics tech as gaming cards with slightly different software drivers.

 

[EasyLover]

I think a few posters have missed the point here. This is an article pertaining to a single water block which is not intended for the high end gaming market. This block is for workstations specifically running Radeon FirePro W9100 graphics. Professionals don't usually spend time during their day looking into their workstation at it's components but they do however have to listen to the noises coming from the inside of the chassis. I think the water block is a good value for those who can use it. Perhaps options like this could be a value-added option during the initial purchase, so IT departments don't find themselves having to spend the time to swap coolers themselves?

Yup, read that correctly for the first time. It was asked generally for 780Ti or so.

 

[cypeq]

@cypeg.

No one said anything about "OC workstation hardware".

They said one of the issues with the card was the cooler and being the fact most WS hardare is not overclock by the people that use them probably reffers to that the card was overheating by a cooler that cant perform. A cooler that cant perform means a card cant perform at it's max performance. A card that cant perform at is best is a waste of $$$ for a bussness that would be using these cards.

Also water cooling has more uses than "people wanting wide glow pipes in their flashy chassis."

Have you heard that even data centers have water cooling for there data racks?
Goolge uses it in many different ways:
http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/efficiency/internal/#water-and-cooling

And other data centers are moving to it as well.


so if data centers are moving to water cooling, then it has a purpose beyond being "flashy".

blah...blah

Either way, benefits for water cooled WS hardware can be seen over air.

I say workstation you say one of the biggest dedicated data centre thumbs up man, it sure does relate. You shure should have 500 litre gas tanks in your cars because 18 wheelers do. WC is more efficient cooling solution but not and never in a single workstation or even single server rack solution. Where air cooling is suffcient and simply no-cost solution, water cooling require expertise, additional hardware, maitance time, and considerable additional purchase and setup cost in workstation and PC a like... making it only valid for OC afficionados. There is virtually no gains to be had in installing WC... unless you need it's higher cooling capacities.

 

[warmon6]

@cypeq

Man oh man......

"I say workstation you say one of the biggest dedicated data centre thumbs up man, it sure does relate."

well when you say "seriously water cooling is used by people wanting wide glow-pipes in their flashy chassis. "

That makes your comment very narrow minded and makes it as though that people only use it for something fancy instead of having some functional use. Hence why I brought in the data center comment.

"WC is more efficient cooling solution but not and never in a single workstation or even single server rack solution."

While your agree on the cooling powers of water, where your wrong my freind is about it "never" being useful in a workstation or single server.

As the article stated, "When we reviewed the W9100, one of the key problems we had with it was the cooler".

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-w9100-performance,3810-16.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-w9100-performance,3810-17.html

Reading the review they link in the article, this card gets hot real quick and would perform better when under better cooling

"Where air cooling is suffcient and simply no-cost solution, water cooling require expertise, additional hardware, maitance time, and considerable additional purchase and setup cost in workstation and PC a like..."

Never argued those points about the maintance and it works for most setups but it doesn't work for all. Hence why this water block was made.

If there was no demand for it, they wouldn't be making it.

"making it only valid for OC afficionados. There is virtually no gains to be had in installing WC... unless you need it's higher cooling capacities."

No point? Well.... you look at the r9 290x (which this Fire Pro card mainly is).... and you know about how hot that card gets.... You get the picture now?

Were not talking about your low end workstation graphic card. We talking about top of the line card that has monster performance but generate a crap ton of heat and doesn't perform well when it running really hot.

 

[RedJaron]

Cypeq, you're also forgetting the trend now of having cards dynamically clock themselves up and down depending on the thermal ceiling. If the W9100 behaves like the 290X in this regard, and if water block keeps it cooler than air does, then it can spend more time at its maximum clock getting more work done.

You're also ignoring the block takes this down to a single slot card. This makes loading multiple cards in a single workstation much easier in mboard selection, cooling, and noise.

 

[cypeq]

My bad all my points are valid yet I have managed to post this under a card that has real reference cooling solution issues hah.