[SOLVED] Elden Ring or Hogwarts Legacy?

[Deleted member 2838871]

Which would you choose? For the last year I've pretty much done nothing but MSFS2020 and am looking for something new to take advantage of the recent GPU upgrade.

I'm a fan of the genre... so which would you recommend? Both is fine too.

 

[Gam3r01]

I dont think any of our opinions are going to mean much.
From what I heard my friends say, the HP game has very little replayability, once they 100% it (not terribly long) they uninstalled it.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

I dont think any of our opinions are going to mean much.
From what I heard my friends say, the HP game has very little replayability, once they 100% it (not terribly long) they uninstalled it.

Guess not. Both have good reviews on Steam and was just looking for outside opinions of which there don't appear to be many.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

I would definitely choose Hogwarts Legacy over ELDEN RING if given a chance to make such a decision. Both are open-world action-RPG games, but Elden Ring is more of a dark fantasy souls-like RPG. If you are a fan of the DARK SOULS series, then Elden Ring might be a better choice.

Else, Hogwarts Legacy is also a very good game, and it has a proper story at least. What distinguishes one from the other is an emphasis on story versus exploration. Hogwarts Legacy is more linear in gameplay though, a traditional role-playing experience, albeit with a magical spin to its combat.

Hogwarts Legacy’s open world is bound to more aggressive side quests and field guide progression before the player can proceed further in the game, while Elden Ring’s open world is almost entirely free to explore with discovery being its primary goal. There are still some restrictions though.

Moreover, Elden Ring beats Hogwarts Legacy in environment detail and level diversity since the lands are quite vast, and they are stretched between colorful biomes, whereas Hogwarts Legacy is more confined to its coastal and wooded Highlands. Elden Ring's levels are huge !

Talking about some quests, even though there are NPCs to meet and talk to in Elden Ring, the quests that some of them present to the player are not bound to a fixed or a marked waypoint path and linear quest-restriction boundaries. The player has to figure out by themselves.

Elden Ring is basically Dark Souls but in an open-world setting with many varied/expansive levels, more bosses, and many dungeons to explore. Unlike Elden Ring, however, Hogwarts Legacy features sorcery as the primary offensive and defensive tool, which should not come as a surprise given the game's background and setting.

In my opinion Hogwarts Legacy has the upper hand on Elden Ring regarding delivering a more "sorcerer-like" experience, being a game of witches and wizards, with a story set within the "Wizarding World" background.

If you like a good story, then Hogwarts Legacy is the way to go. Else, like mentioned above Elden ring is also a very good game, and the combat and enemy encounters are more fluid than the darks souls franchise.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

In my opinion Hogwarts Legacy has the upper hand on Elden Ring regarding delivering a more "sorcerer-like" experience, being a game of witches and wizards, with a story set within the "Wizarding World" background.

If you like a good story, then Hogwarts Legacy is the way to go. Else, like mentioned above Elden ring is also a very good game, and the combat and enemy encounters are more fluid than the darks souls franchise.

Thanks for the informative post. In all my years of RPGs I've always been more into the magical experience than the melee experience... so I think I'm gonna go with Hogwarts Legacy first... then perhaps Elden Ring down the road.

I'm not familiar with either franchise... so it will be interesting I'm sure.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Thanks for the informative post. In all my years of RPGs I've always been more into the magical experience than the melee experience... so I think I'm gonna go with Hogwarts Legacy first... then perhaps Elden Ring down the road.

I'm not familiar with either franchise... so it will be interesting I'm sure.

No worries. Yeah I think both these games are worth playing.

BTW, since you are having a very powerful GPU/PC, so there won't be any unexpected VRAM related issues with the RTX 4090. But 4K would be still very demanding on your hardware, because of the game's engine.

Hogwarts Legacy eats up a lot of VRAM, apart from high system RAM usage even on high-end systems.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Hogwarts Legacy eats up a lot of VRAM, apart from high system RAM usage even on high-end systems.

Thanks for the tip. I just installed the card a couple days ago and have spent the last 2 evenings setting up all my software after I wiped my drives to start fresh. When I get the game up and running I'll post back with the performance info. The 4090 is a huge generational leap over the 3090 so I don't regret the upgrade at all... but am interested in seeing how the card stands up to new games like this.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

The 4090 is a huge generational leap over the 3090 so I don't regret the upgrade at all... but am interested in seeing how the card stands up to new games like this.

Yeah, the RTX 4090 is indeed an absolute monster of a card. Fastest consumer gaming GPU right now, before the Ti sub-variant launches in near future. The Ti variant is in NVidia's pipeline.

Heavy graphic demanding, or even poorly coded games which might eat enormous system resources, would be a perfect candidate for this GPU, that too if played on 4K resolution.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Yeah, the RTX 4090 is indeed an absolute monster of a card. Fastest consumer gaming GPU right now, before the Ti sub-variant launches in near future. The Ti variant is in NVidia's pipeline.

Heavy graphic demanding, or even poorly coded games which might eat enormous system resources, would be a perfect candidate for this GPU, that too if played on 4K resolution.

Yep... and 4K is what I play at. The card is an absolute monster... with the 10900k and 3090 my Port Royal score was 14,000.... 11900k and 4090 it was 25,000.

As said... huge improvement.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Heavy graphic demanding, or even poorly coded games which might eat enormous system resources, would be a perfect candidate for this GPU, that too if played on 4K resolution.

Well I purchased HL and just spent 2 hours in the game... I'm speechless. The game looks utterly amazing in 4K resolution on my OLED panel.

Performance was solid. The hardware test the game did put everything on Ultra... and I turned on all the RT options.

CPU usage was less than 10%. GPU usage was 35-55%. FPS was 60 and stayed there. CPU temps were 40C. GPU temps were around 50-55C. Ram usage was 21/64GB.

Super happy with the upgrade and can't wait to dive into the game this weekend.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Well I purchased HL and just spent 2 hours in the game.

By HL you mean HALF LIFE game series, or some other PC title ? Actually Half life is not that demanding on the hardware though. Though, some of the graphical MODs do require a high-end PC.

OUCH !

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

By HL you mean HALF LIFE game series, or some other PC title ? Actually Half life is not that demanding on the hardware though. Though, some of the graphical MODs do require a high-end PC.

HL = Hogwart's Legacy.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Haha ! That was a good one actually! Had a good laugh after knowing how stupid I sounded. Having brainfart since morning.

Obviously, it has to be Hogwarts ! Not sure what made me think it's half life, lol.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Haha ! That was a good one actually! Had a good laugh after knowing how stupid I sounded. Having brainfart since morning.

Obviously, it has to be Hogwarts ! Not sure what made me think it's half life, lol.

Haha! No worries man! I do that too sometimes!

Anyway... yes... my PC absolutely destroyed HL on Ultra 4K with RT. I'm super excited to put some hours into the game this weekend! Thanks for the comments... and yes... Elden Ring is next!

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Elden Ring is next!

You could also try playing Cyberpunk 2077, especially the new RT overdrive mode and PATH TRACING update which is coming out pretty soon. Cyberpunk 2077 is also a perfect candidate to tax the RTX 4090 at 4K mode, along with RTX/Path tracing enabled.

In fact this game would be even more demanding on the hardware.

Cyberpunk 2077 devs have recently posted a new "Behind The Settings" video that discusses the upcoming Path Tracing update and NVIDIA Overdrive RT mode that is coming to the game next week, talking about how taxing the new visual mode will be on modern-day GPUs and how DLSS 3 can definitely assist with adding more performance.

The developers state that the NVIDIA RT Overdrive Mode with Path Tracing will be around 30-40% more taxing on the GPU and with an RTX 4090 struggling to hit that 100 FPS+ mark even with DLSS 3 enabled, so it is likely that native performance (DLSS Disabled) with the same settings will yield sub-30 FPS graphics performance.

"Well, it's going to be pretty expensive. I mean, pretty heavy on the GPU & we don't have a precise number but probably something around 30 percent, 40 percent heavier but this is where DLSS 3 comes in to help us because it gives back all the performance, all the frame that we are losing with the high demanding rendering technique."

View: https://youtu.be/3FG_My0b3mY

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

You could also try playing Cyberpunk 2077, especially the new RT overdrive mode and PATH TRACING update which is coming out pretty soon. Cyberpunk 2077 is also a perfect candidate to tax the RTX 4090 at 4K mode, along with RTX/Path tracing enabled.

In fact this game would be even more demanding on the hardware.

What would you say if I told you I already had CP2077 but hadn't played it yet? LOL... I actually bought it on release day and have never installed it. Mainly because of all the gameplay complaints I read shortly after launch... I was like "OK then, I'll just wait."

It's in my GoG library I just need to install.

Will do that this weekend and post the 4K Ultra results. Thanks for the link. Will check it out when I get home from work. I've heard about the new update.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

What would you say if I told you I already had CP2077 but hadn't played it yet? LOL... I actually bought it on release day and have never installed it. Mainly because of all the gameplay complaints I read shortly after launch... I was like "OK then, I'll just wait."

It's in my GoG library I just need to install.

Will do that this weekend and post the 4K Ultra results. Thanks for the link. Will check it out when I get home from work. I've heard about the new update.

I never bought this game to be honest. Apart from the gameplay issues/graphical glitches which plagued it at launch, I also didn't like the game's setting, environment and theme. It is full of slang, and a lot of adult stuff is there which annoys me. There is sexual depiction in character, dialogues, and other signs, symbols and whatnot.

I want games to be clean and have a decent story/setting and dialogues. I find it very offending. But of course, everyone has got their own taste and preferences when it comes to gaming.

The game is not THAT bad though. It's just that the game's setting, and the overall theme/backdrop doesn't suit my taste. But the game is in a much better state now, and the devs have patched a lot of things, and there are gameplay improvements as well.

I'm pretty sure the RTX 4090 will run this game easily, even at 4K. Regarding PATH and ray tracing/RTX it's hard to comment on the performance right now, since the patch is not yet out, imo.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

my PC absolutely destroyed HL on Ultra 4K with RT. I'm super excited to put some hours into the game this weekend! Thanks for the comments... and yes... Elden Ring is next!

Hi. Yesterday I started playing Elden Ring where I left in the middle, and oh boy, some of the enemy encounters in the later levels of the game are pretty TOUGH and insane. Not to mention the boss fights. But it's been an enjoyable experience with ELDEN. Much better than Dark Souls.

Despite having punishing difficulty level, Elden Ring can be more fluidly played than Dark Souls series. They have improved a lot of gameplay mechanics and animations. More polished title as well.

Did you complete HL yet ?

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Hi. Yesterday I started playing Elden Ring where I left in the middle, and oh boy, some of the enemy encounters in the later levels of the game are pretty TOUGH and insane.

Did you complete HL yet ?

Nah... I'm only a few hours into it... and just got Last of Us. My biggest problem is having time to play... working in the ballpark of 70 hours a week so I have a few hours each day but definitely don't have endless hours to play... but at least it affords me these toys.

Elden Ring will be the next Steam purchase. I'm looking forward to the graphics and the challenge.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

My biggest problem is having time to play... working in the ballpark of 70 hours a week so I have a few hours each day but definitely don't have endless hours to play... but at least it affords me these toys.

Elden Ring will be the next Steam purchase. I'm looking forward to the graphics and the challenge.

Yeah, even I don't have too much spare time for gaming. I do it casually when I take a break from recording/rehearsal. I can understand this. Time can be a huge limiting factor these days.

Especially if we work overtime. Didn't know the RTX 4090 was a toy though !

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Yeah, even I don't have too much spare time for gaming. I do it casually when I take a break from recording/rehearsal. I can understand this. Time can be a huge limiting factor these days.

Especially if we work overtime. Didn't know the RTX 4090 was a toy though !

Hahah... that's what my girl calls it. What can I say though... been doing it since getting an Atari for Christmas in 1979. My first computer was an Amiga 500 in 1988.

I actually haven't done much gaming other than MS Flight Sim since building my PC with the 3090 almost 2 1/2 years ago... totally skipped the 3090 Ti and didn't pay much attention to the 4090 release either.

That is... until I got an email a few weeks ago from NewEgg telling me that they had various cards in stock. I'm like "what? There are no scalper shortages anymore?"

I watched some reviews and when I saw the 4090 was basically a 50% improvement over the 3090 that sold me. I made the purchase and threw in the 11900k upgrade for PCIE 4.0 even though I'd have probably been fine without it. 3.0 doesn't appear to gimp the 4090... but what the heck... after selling the 10900k it was only a $60 net cost to upgrade.

At any rate... I've dusted off my gaming library. I plan to roll with what I have for the next few years... My mobo is maxxed and I'm fine with my current hardware performance.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Hi. Yesterday I started playing Elden Ring where I left in the middle, and oh boy, some of the enemy encounters in the later levels of the game are pretty TOUGH and insane. Not to mention the boss fights. But it's been an enjoyable experience with ELDEN. Much better than Dark Souls.

Despite having punishing difficulty level, Elden Ring can be more fluidly played than Dark Souls series. They have improved a lot of gameplay mechanics and animations. More polished title as well.

Did you complete HL yet ?

Still working on HL... and just picked up Elden Ring. The Last of Us I'm working on as well... it's becoming an addiction actually... purchasing games.

I ended up building a new PC. The 4090 was great... but wasn't happy with the 11900k. I went AMD for the new AM5 platform... and yes... my 7950x3D and motherboard blew up last weekend... 3 days after I built the PC.

Both were RMA'ed and replaced and all has been well for the last 4 days.

Redfall was free with the 4090 purchase and got Jedi Survivor with the Ryzen purchase. I believe that game launches tomorrow.

So many games... so little time.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Redfall was free with the 4090 purchase and got Jedi Survivor with the Ryzen purchase. I believe that game launches tomorrow.

I think Jedi Survivor has launched just now, and most of the reviews on STEAM are negative. I don't know but this game would be great candidate for your high-end rig.

After all this games is consuming enormous amounts of VRAM and also has some CPU optimization issues, as told by others who have tested this game. Though, I usually don't take user reviews seriously.

But nonetheless, I hope the game developers iron out these as early as possible via an update/patch.

Btw, is your AM5 setup working properly after the latest BIOS/firmware update ? I think some peeps are still experiencing high voltage draw from the socket.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

I think Jedi Survivor has launched just now, and most of the reviews on STEAM are negative. I don't know but this game would be great candidate for your high-end rig.

Btw, is your AM5 setup working properly after the latest BIOS/firmware update ? I think some peeps are still experiencing high voltage draw from the socket.

Yeah I got the code from AMD this morning and downloaded the game before I left for work. Will check it out when I get home and post my performance. I had no plans to purchase it but since it was free I'll check it out. Same for Redfall in a couple days... got it with the 4090 purchase.

I don't put much stock into reviews either... and that's because not many are running the system I have. I've seen dozens of complaints about Hogwart's and Last of Us and both run flawlessly on mine in 4K 60 Ultra.

My board just put out a BIOS update today that I'll update when I get home. The previous BIOS I was running when mine burned up (and am running now with EXPO disabled) was removed from the support page. It has been running fine for the last 5 days since the rebuild though and NewEgg approved the RMA yesterday so I should be good to go.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

FWIW, I just finished completing ELDEN RING ! Well, almost 95% of the quests are done. Some still remain though. But it was a tough challenge to beat this game. In later parts of the game I had to use a TRAINER/Cheat Engine to beat it completely.

Some of Boss and enemy fights are really tough at least for my gaming skills. I like Elden Ring's open-world concept. Game looks stunning as well, and it's good to see "creepy" enemies respawn once we touch and rest on a "Site of Grace", which severs as a fast travel and also checkpoint.

Regarding Hogwarts Legacy, Jedi Survivor and the Last of us Part 1. I can't even buy these titles anymore since they won't run on my potato PC. No point in getting any of these (except Hogwarts which is better than the other two), if they can't even run on my current PC config.

But I'm happy with my PC. I mostly play older PC games, and they run flawlessly on my system, so it's cool for now. I will only get Hogwarts once I upgrade my rig.

I only played Hogwarts's first 2-3 chapters/levels at my friend's high-end rig. Game is really indeed very good. Loved the voice acting and the characters as well.