News Elon Musk took 19 days to set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs; process normally takes 4 years

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great Unknown said:
Jensen Huang apparently disagrees with you. But what does Jensen know? All he does is hire people and pay $$$.

And apparently hiring people and paying $$$ is not as simple as it sounds, or other corporations would have done the same.
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It's hype. That is how ceo's work. Push employees like mad and cut corners then take credit for their work.

I will wait to see how screwed up it is for that crunch rather than believe two ceo's patting each other on the back.
 
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great Unknown said:
Jensen Huang apparently disagrees with you. But what does Jensen know? All he does is hire people and pay $$$.

And apparently hiring people and paying $$$ is not as simple as it sounds, or other corporations would have done the same.
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Or there is a reason it's not done this way. Wouldn't be the first time Musk decided he knows better, ignores the institutional knowledge a industry had built and then has to make exactly all those mistakes until he ...does it the way everyone else does. See ... everything Tesla has ever done in vehicle manufacturing. Or Musk demanding they stop a bunch of "useless services" and breaking Twitter... repeatedly. Or his bad code he writes that is just .... funny. That ones mostly funny, no-one uses his code. He's a terrible coder by all accounts. "Print your code and come explain it to me!" That's just funny. He's a laughable person. A sad laughable half-smart person.

So yeah, let's give it 6 months and see what unforeseen consequences, if any, reveal themselves.
 
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Elon Musk and the team behind xAI purportedly setup a total of 100,000 H200 Nvidia GPUs in just 19 days. That's a feat that should have taken four years to complete.

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No, the vision and drive to make that happen takes a pretty big effort, and I’m quite confident if you were given the money and the hires you still couldn’t get it done. If everyone could do it they would.

I would say Huang and his teams also deserves a great deal of credit.
 
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newtechldtech said:
Elon Mask what ? he did not do anything but hire people and pay $$$ .
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you know i keep seeing people say this.

tesla does something amazing "elon didn't do it, he hired people to do it"
spacex does a once in a lifetime engineering marvel "elon didn't do it, he hired people to do it"
elon sets up an ai datacenter in 19days that normally takes 4 years "elon didn't do it, he hired people to do it"

Even if you're right and elon is not a competent engineer (something i think his career disproves but whatever, i won't argue it), he certainly might be the most competent hiring manager in the history of mankind. you only get this lucky once in your life and he keeps doing it.
 
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Wouldn't want to live nearby:

Btw, I can set up a chat-bot, which shouts: "1984!", in under an hour. Just sayin'. 😀
(This is not a political reference - I don't even live in the U.S. It is just that the AI model is named after The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, novels I like, and I also like Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency, and the videogame Starship Titanic - and then I look at Mr Musk's... uhm... political activism, and it just happens to remind me rather of a different novel. Which I just meant to express, that some of that stuff in the U.S. seems quite absurd to me.)
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Even if you're right and elon is not a competent engineer (something i think his career disproves but whatever, i won't argue it), he certainly might be the most competent hiring manager in the history of mankind. you only get this lucky once in your life and he keeps doing it.
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Huh? E.g. Bosch (named after a guy) has a lot more employees than i.e. Tesla. Likewise, e.g. Siemens, also named after a guy, with e.g. the first electric locomotive having been here in Berlin (and then having ended up as something, not just a selected few had some use of).

Not meaning to argue about whether Mr Musk really is the best the U.S. has. But "in the history of mankind", there are a lot more examples, than a library visitor in Florida may be allowed to learn about.
 
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Elon Musk and the team behind xAI purportedly setup a total of 100,000 H200 Nvidia GPUs in just 19 days. That's a feat that should have taken four years to complete.

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And SpaceX. And he moved a massive Twitter server farm out of California. Unfortunately the US punishes success and rewards failure. I hope we find a positive relationship between business and Government.
 
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Nikolay Mihaylov said:
"Elon Musk and the team behind xAI have achieved an engineering marvel..."

So, how big is this team? I mean, there is quite a difference between 10 and a 100 people. Without the size of the team, this means nothing.

BTW, the 4 year valuation by Jensen is total BS. Maybe he means it would take 4 years for a single person. That I could believe. But a team of 100? No <Mod Edit> way!
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The bigger the team the slower they go in many cases. Ask the government to do something, elon gets stuff done in a fraction of the time NASA does.

If you ever worked for a large corporation it is a similar issue.

In these large teams of people there are massive number of people whose only real job is to make the processes as complex as possible ensuring their job and all the other useless people in the process jobs also. They love all their required studies and approval forms and committee meetings. They have no clue what a engineering document they require actually says but if it doesn't have their stamp on it their crony in the next department will not approve the process to proceed.
 
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Wouldn't want to live nearby:

Btw, I can set up a chat-bot, which shouts: "1984!", in under an hour. Just sayin'. 😀
(This is not a political reference - I don't even live in the U.S. It is just that the AI model is named after The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, novels I like, and I also like Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency, and the videogame Starship Titanic - and then I look at Mr Musk's... uhm... political activism, and it just happens to remind me rather of a different novel. Which I just meant to express, that some of that stuff in the U.S. seems quite absurd to me.)

Huh? E.g. Bosch (named after a guy) has a lot more employees than i.e. Tesla. Likewise, e.g. Siemens, also named after a guy, with e.g. the first electric locomotive having been here in Berlin (and then having ended up as something, not just a selected few had some use of).

Not meaning to argue about whether Mr Musk really is the best the U.S. has. But "in the history of mankind", there are a lot more examples, than a library visitor in Florida may be allowed to learn about.
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has any of them caught a 300ft tall booster with a launch tower before? how many self driving electric cars have they build? AI database in 19 days?

i'm not saying there aren't good execs elsewhere. I'm saying no one has had the sustained success musk has experienced since he helped setup paypal in the late 90s. this is a guy who's been on a winning streak unprecedented in engineering history. While i think Tesla cars are sorta mediocre, that's still the first successful US car manufacturer founded since the 1930s... every other one has been killed/acquired by the big 3. no one has managed to build a rocket as big, no one has been able to land and resuse boosters~

I'm not a musk fanboy, frankly i think it's a detestable person, but people insisting he's some sort of mediocre person who got lucky reek of jealousy. you don't get lucky like he does over and over again. you don't accomplish the impossible over and over again. Genius isn't limited to virtuous people, horrible people can be very smart as well. Of course i'm not crediting him with creating these things by himself, but at the bare min he has one of the best noses for talents in world history considering what his various teams in various industries are doing.
 
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Unfortunately, the news article doesn't say how many workers were involved.

Building a datacenter, with supply chains and skilled workforce that have evolved over time to support building datacenters more quickly, is nowadays much faster than years ago when those supply chains and skilled workforce didn't exist. ---- If building pyramids was popular today, it would take just a few days to build the pyramid of Khufu at Giza (height 146.7m) instead of 26 years.
 
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has any of them caught a 300ft tall booster with a launch tower before?

I'm not a musk fanboy, frankly i think it's a detestable person, but people insisting he's some sort of mediocre person who got lucky reek of jealousy. you don't get lucky like he does over and over again. you don't accomplish the impossible over and over again. Genius isn't limited to virtuous people, horrible people can be very smart as well.
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How many people have /tried/ to catch a booster?

He hasn't gotten lucky over and over - he's burned a TON of money getting lucky 2 or 3 times, that's unlikely but not impossible. Musk has invented exactly ZERO things, let's get that straight right now. He didn't invent a goddamned thing. Claiming otherwise is just sycophant nonsense. He's a sci-fi nerd that buys companies doing things he thinks are cool. Then he usually hamstrings them ... but they are good ideas he recognizes - so he's not a complete moron - he's just a run of the mill idiot.

That lady running spaceX is doing a crackerjack job - Tesla would also be doing some great work if Musk would shut up and go play with Twitter (which he has also completely screwed up) .... or count his money other people are making for him.

Instead we get to have the worlds most insecure idiot constantly demanding attention like some sort of toddler.
 
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great Unknown said:
Jensen Huang apparently disagrees with you. But what does Jensen know? All he does is hire people and pay $$$.

And apparently hiring people and paying $$$ is not as simple as it sounds, or other corporations would have done the same.
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Hiring people does not mean giving the CEO the credit ... his name is known while the whole team and team managers names are never mentioned in the press.

Elon Mask does npt know ANYHITNG about AI or Computer Science or networking or servers and yet HE MANAGED TO DO IT IN BLA BLA days .

and from my experience .. MOST CEOs steal ideas and then pretend they did it. MOST.
 
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