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So now your story is that you are a HP tech analyst who speaks openly on
the usenet about how he buys, and advocates to others that they buy,
their computers from a competitor?
TB wrote:
> Well, Blip...
>
> I didn't come in here to get blasted. Just to give an opinion. I know full
> well who I am that's why I don't have a problem putting my email address on
> my posts. As for the confusion, the TB is an inside joke. You wouldn't get
> it. It's attitudes like yours that frequently scare newbies off from these
> types of NGs, when you really could be adding a valid opinion and doing
> something useful.
>
> As for my qualifications, no, I do not work for GW in any capacity. But I
> have been building and using both PCs and Mac's for over 20 years. I happen
> to work for a company with the initials HP. Whether or not that diminishes
> me in your eyes or not is beside the point. I am simply adding my opinion.
> And at the end of the day, that's all any of this really is.
>
> As for building a box, please read the following:
>
> MB- Intel 915G Chipset $125.00
> CPU- P4 560 (3.6G) 439.00
> HD- HDS 250GB SATA 131.00
> Mem- Samsung 2 512 MB 160.00
> Mon- GW FP1750 17" LCd 299.00
> VC- ATI Radeon X800 XT 529.00
> Case- Antec 110.00
> PS- Antec 330W 89.00
> DVD RW- Samsung 16x 62.00
> DVD ROM- Samsung 41.00
> Windows XP Pro 199.00
> Sound Card- SB Audigy 2 ZS 107.00
> Speakers- 2.1 w/sub 50.00
>
> Total- $2341.00
>
> These prices are from Pricewatch.com and are current as of 3/1/2005 @11:49
> AM. I used the very same equipment as is listed from SiSoft Sandra on my
> new 7200XL-a Gateway box-for which I paid $2200.00 incl. shipping. I did
> pay tax, but so will you on the above amount, which is in addition to the
> shipping charges on all of those individual parts. Note I did not order from
> the least expensive vendor. I chose vendors that had more than 50 reviews,
> which in most cases ended up being Newegg or Xtreme Gear. I did that to
> avoid vendor problems.
>
> Quite frankly it would be stupid of me to build my own box. Not to mention
> the fact that if I have a problem with hardware, I just call tech support
> and it's fixed. I don't have to shell out anymore money.
> TB
>
> PS>All flames will be ignored.
>
> "TR" <spamtrap@spamhell.com> wrote in message
> news:441921pips4c57v12rvdagb8osi2g47poc@4ax.com...
>
>>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:27:26 -0800, "TB" <tom_daniels@surewest.net>
>>wrote:
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>>>GW has significantly improved its tech support and in all of the years I
>>>have had to call, I have never spoken to someone with an accent anymore
>>>removed from the States than Alabama.
>>
>>Up until my last home desktop ran out of warranty I can say that
>>everyone I talked to at GW TS Between 2002 and 2004 had a distinct
>>South Asian (Indian) accent and knew nothing about computers except
>>what was printed on their terminal to say. Before 2002, they were
>>locals and I can truthfully say that half of them didn't have any more
>>of a clue than the Indians that took over their jobs. However, I can
>>say that I only came across attitude from American GW Techs on more
>>than one occasion while the Indians, if not having a clue, were always
>>courteous.
>>
>>Even though I still have a GW laptop under Business Level Warranty
>>which always goes to a North American Techie that usually has a clue,
>>after dealing with GW support from 1996 till 2002 on home desktops, I
>>finally threw up my hands and gave a reputable local builder a try. I
>>have yet to regret my decision. Two home desktops in 2 1/2 years from
>>him and have had only one problem which was taken care of locally by
>>someone that actually built computers and wasn't reading canned
>>replies odd a terminal and which I was dealing with Face To Face.
>>
>>Yes, it is true that [Most] all the parts come from the same place.
>>That isn't what is in question here. It is how those parts are put
>>together to make a final product and how that product is supported
>>that matters. All the spinning can not hide the fact that GW lost its
>>place in the market due to loosing the bulk of its customer retention
>>(returning customers) on their high end models. The joke going around
>>now is about some bumper sticker (I have not seen) that says something
>>to the effect "I bought a GW once". They now rely on those beginner
>>$399 boxes with training wheels and wide screen TV's to keep their
>>nose above water.
>>
>>My two local builds came with the same warranties offered by GW. The
>>difference is that the Techie is 1 mile down the road and he probably
>>had a lot to do with the hands on building of my specific computers.
>>He doesn't read canned responses off the screen because he has a clue
>>and he's not only from my side of the world, he's from my home town.
>>And that's if I get the owners Techie. Usually its the owner I end up
>>speaking to. Also, I don't think I overly paid for my two local
>>builds. They are both AMD Athlon Performance machines in the $650 to
>>$750 range. And if I had chosen to use their integrated sound and
>>graphics instead, they would have been less.
>>
>>BTW, I think he does offer a $499 beginner box like a lot of the
>>out-sourced-loving conglomerates do. The big difference is.... real
>>local support by a person that has a clue.
>>
>>In closing, I don't know if this is true or not but on a few of the
>>Techie sites a while back, they were posting that GW had to pull its
>>ads where it showed GW boxes being assembled in America.... because
>>they got caught with the fact that they weren't. Now they are showing
>>ads of a herd of people running across a field delivering the
>>computers because they purchase complete assembled boxes out of
>>Taiwan with the GW name stamped on them. I don't know if this is true
>>but I do know that the ads showing a N. AM. assembly line have not
>>been shown since the new ad showing GW delivery herds running across a
>>field showed up on TV.
>>
>>If nothing else, even though the parts are made in GW's beloved
>>Taiwan, lets at least keep our assembly and support money locally...
>>Buy a Local Build and keep your money flowing in your own community.
>>I have had no regrets since deciding to quit GW and support America,
>>as much as one can in a computer, once again.
>>
>>TR
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