[SOLVED] EMB-B75A motherboard good?

[okjak808]

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Hello everyone. I’ve been thinking about selling my micro ATX mobo (cpu and ram included, already have another cpu and ram). I’ve been wanting to do a mini ITX build and start off with the motherboard, and when i find the right motherboard I will go onto the case next.

Although for some reason most LGA 1155 mini-itx motherboards are so expensive most of them averaging 80-150 dollars, even if they were used which makes no sense to me. But then I found this EMB-B75A motherboard, brand new for 70 dollars which is the best deal out there. Though I tried to do research about this and I was able to find the website for it.

https://www.aaeon.com/en/p/mini-itx-emb-b75a

The specs are pretty decent, or actually better than the MSI h61m I have due to the chipset I guess. But not many people had them which is why I need help with anyone here if I should decide on getting this or just stick with my current motherboard?

also heard that the b with the b75 chipset stands for “business” is that true?

upon their website they’re also marketing this board for other uses like gaming.

Thank you for reading, have a good day/night, and a safe one!

 

[helpstar]

It´s an OEM industrial motherboard and therefore should be very reliable. But it´s still old and eventually needs a new CMOS battery when you get it.

Keep in mind, that the B75 board only has 1 fast SATA III 6Gbit/s HDD/SSD port. The others are SATA II, no RAID support

but has two 1Gbit lan and 3 HDMI ports

I really doubt that this board is new and unused, because it was sold to OEMs and not end users, but shouldn´t be a problem though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#LGA_1155

The ITX market is very high priced, even used ones like you said.

 

[okjak808]

It´s an OEM industrial motherboard and therefore should be very reliable. But it´s still old and eventually needs a new CMOS battery when you get it.

Keep in mind, that the B75 board only has 1 fast SATA III 6Gbit/s HDD/SSD port. The others are SATA II, no RAID support

but has two 1Gbit lan and 3 HDMI ports

I really doubt that this board is new and unused, because it was sold to OEMs and not end users, but shouldn´t be a problem though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#LGA_1155

The ITX market is very high priced, even used ones like you said.

I see well but is the pcie express 3.0, I wouldn’t want a board that has 2.0 express. I’ve seen a video were someone did a performance difference between the 2.0 express, and 3.0 motherboard with a gtx 1080, it was like a 10 FPS difference.

well since it’s reliable then that’s a good thing, do you think I should sell my Asus p8h61-m le/csm to get the emb?

 

[helpstar]

The PCIe version is dependent on which CPU you are using. The motherboard itself is supporting both versions.

Sandybridge (2nd gen Intel e.g- i5-2500) -> PCIe 2.0
Ivy Bridge (3rd gen Intel e.g. i5-3570) -> PCIe 3.0

Which CPU are you using?

If you want an ITX system, this should be fine.

 

[okjak808]

The PCIe version is dependent on which CPU you are using. The motherboard itself is supporting both versions.

Sandybridge (2nd gen Intel e.g- i5-2500) -> PCIe 2.0
Ivy Bridge (3rd gen Intel e.g. i5-3570) -> PCIe 3.0

Which CPU are you using?

If you want an ITX system, this should be fine.

well that’s good to hear. I have a i7 3770 which is 3rd gen and yes I do know that 2nd gen only supports up to 2gen pcie interference, though some motherboard may only support gen 2.

thank you very much for your reply and time.

 

[helpstar]

though some motherboard may only support gen 2.

the support is depending on the compatibility to 3rd gen Intel CPUs, theoreticall all motherboards with socket 1155 are supporting PCIe 3.0, even if it´s not stated in the specifications table. As soon as a 3rd gen CPU is running on such a board, it´s PCIe 3.0.

You are welcome

 

[okjak808]

the support is depending on the compatibility to 3rd gen Intel CPUs, theoreticall all motherboards with socket 1155 are supporting PCIe 3.0, even if it´s not stated in the specifications table. As soon as a 3rd gen CPU is running on such a board, it´s PCIe 3.0.

You are welcome

Sorry after a very long time. I was supposed to get this board for a mini itx build. But im canceling the project since other itx motherboards are too expensive. The reason for this was because the seller said that this type of motherboard or (EMB-B75A) does not support gtx 900 series cards or later. As we had a little chat about the board he tried tested the board with a 970, 1070, 1650, and a 1660ti and he said it wouldn’t boot up.

this is odd because other motherboards with this chipset seem to work fine with newer gen cards. Pcie express is also 3.0 and even if it were 2.0 it would still accept cards at 3.0 but interference is capped due to the gen 2 low transfer rate (gbits or gb I’m not sure how it’s called?)

I did research and many say it’s mostly due to the motherboard being very old. Funny enough that I had a emachine et18xx (forgot exact model). It was my first pc I had when started building and I had little experience (it was passed down from my grandma). Despite that I bought a gtx 1050 without knowing what bottleneck was cause it had a core 2 duo e7400, and it still worked fine?

 

[helpstar]

The problem is that the sandy/ivy bridge motherboards were the first ones with UEFI (new BIOS) and therefore the GPUs could be problematic which are newer and have a new GOP "BIOS" onboard. Some UEFI/BIOS versions don´t support newer cards with UEFI GOP drivers. This is not a hardware problem but the motherboard manufacturers have to update the UEFI to be fully compatible with these cards. Sadly this doesn´t happen with all motherboards.

e.g. my old H67 motherboard didn´t work with a GTX770, because I had a sandy bridge i5-2400. Theoretically there shouldn´t be a problem but it´s all software related and has to be implemented in the BIOS/UEFI. After installing an i5-3470, the card worked without issues for years.

the seller said that this type of motherboard or (EMB-B75A) does not support gtx 900 series cards or later.

I don´t think that´s really true. Others did get it to work (3rd gen CPUs used):
https://www.userbenchmark.com/System/To-EMB-B75A/27795

 

[okjak808]

The problem is that the sandy/ivy bridge motherboards were the first ones with UEFI (new BIOS) and therefore the GPUs could be problematic which are newer and have a new GOP "BIOS" onboard. Some UEFI/BIOS versions don´t support newer cards with UEFI GOP drivers. This is not a hardware problem but the motherboard manufacturers have to update the UEFI to be fully compatible with these cards. Sadly this doesn´t happen with all motherboards.

e.g. my old H67 motherboard didn´t work with a GTX770, because I had a sandy bridge i5-2400. Theoretically there shouldn´t be a problem but it´s all software related and has to be implemented in the BIOS/UEFI. After installing an i5-3470, the card worked without issues for years.



I don´t think that´s really true. Others did get it to work (3rd gen CPUs used):
https://www.userbenchmark.com/System/To-EMB-B75A/27795

That’s odd, the seller also tested the board with an i7-3770 which is the exact CPU I have as well. Yeah I thought about it being a bios issue after some research but I’m still confused.

but here’s what the seller explained to me

“There seems to be an issue with the 6x and 7x chipsets which were the first to offer PCIe 3.0 slots. Some work with 900 series cards and others don't. This motherboard does not. I tried with a 970, 1070 and 1660, none of them work with this board.”

 

[okjak808]

The problem is that the sandy/ivy bridge motherboards were the first ones with UEFI (new BIOS) and therefore the GPUs could be problematic which are newer and have a new GOP "BIOS" onboard. Some UEFI/BIOS versions don´t support newer cards with UEFI GOP drivers. This is not a hardware problem but the motherboard manufacturers have to update the UEFI to be fully compatible with these cards. Sadly this doesn´t happen with all motherboards.

e.g. my old H67 motherboard didn´t work with a GTX770, because I had a sandy bridge i5-2400. Theoretically there shouldn´t be a problem but it´s all software related and has to be implemented in the BIOS/UEFI. After installing an i5-3470, the card worked without issues for years.



I don´t think that´s really true. Others did get it to work (3rd gen CPUs used):
https://www.userbenchmark.com/System/To-EMB-B75A/27795

But I highly appreciated you doing some research for me as well. I wasn’t expecting for someone to have this motherboard and did a benchmark on user benchmark. I was gonna take the risk on getting the EMB due to the lack of support and updates I just wanted to do an ITX build, or as long as it supported the parts I have. I’ve came across a Reddit post were this person had an issue with the USB 3.0 ports weren’t working and someone replied saying that you might need drivers for it, but the website had no drivers for it. I just went on looking for ATX motherboard with some modern features with it because my MSI h61m-p31 g(3) lacked most of it. I managed to find an intel DZ77RE-75k for 100 dollars, though the seller offered me 95. Unknowingly how long the board may last I just bought it, and I know this board was meant for extreme pc enthusiasts, or overclocking which I won’t be doing since I have an i7-3770non k. I just wanted the board because it looked pretty cool and it had a lot good features on it. Also it would fit perfectly in my NZXT-H510 case since having a micro motherboard in a full atx case can look weird.

 

[helpstar]

The seller should have updated the BIOS/UEFI, resetted the CMOS by jumper and then try the GPUs, but ok.

You are welcome

 

[okjak808]

The seller should have updated the BIOS/UEFI, resetted the CMOS by jumper and then try the GPUs, but ok.

You are welcome

Damn I should’ve asked him to do so and maybe I would have a chance. Even though, I realized that I would have to get a SFX psu since my rm750 is a bit large and with that my gtx 970 FE as well so cable management will be hard or impossible because I was planning on getting this golden field n-1 case (supports atx psu) and most SFX psu are expensive with the 400 watt range being at least 75 dollars. I would need a 550 watt at least due to my GPU but around that wattage range costs over 100 dollars which is way off my budget.

another question, the new motherboard I’m getting has a 8 pin cpu connecter, so if I were to plug in all 4+4 pins would it be safe, or do I need to just plug in half of the 8 pin into the 8 pin socket?

anyways take care and be safe again thank you very much for the help : )

 

[egda23]

In the Bios of this motherboard, you have to manually choose between Legacy bios and UEFI. Did the seller do that ?

 

[okjak808]

In the Bios of this motherboard, you have to manually choose between Legacy bios and UEFI. Did the seller do that ?

Most likely he would’ve known to do that, but then again I should’ve asked him.