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I've got a homebuild system that is a couple years old, based on the
EP-8KHA+ with an AMD 2400+. A few months ago one of my memory chips
went out so I remove it and now run with a single 512meg PC2100 chip.
In the past few months (before or after the memory loss I'm not sure)
my computer has been locking up, freezing, crashing (BSOD), etc. I
upgraded my video card (not because of this problem) and that hasn't
changed anything either. I got fed up with it so I reformatted and
installed Windows XP. This crashes just as often. Some programs I
launch will either crash or freeze the entire computer. Often at
night I leave it on and in the morning it's frozen and I can't get an
image on my monitor and I'm forced to push the button. I uninstalled
my SB Audigy but that didn't help. I unplugged USB devices and put my
USB mouse on the PS/2 port. I upgarded the BIOS to the latest version
and set the BIOS settings to "fail-safe defaults". I ran a memory
test overnight and it didn't find any errors. I'm not sure what else
I can do. I now suspect the motherboard.

Does this sound like the motherboard? I had to buy a new mb and find
the same problem. But I'm running out of options.

Michael
 
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Michael Akins wrote:
> I've got a homebuild system that is a couple years old, based on the
> EP-8KHA+ with an AMD 2400+. A few months ago one of my memory chips
> went out so I remove it and now run with a single 512meg PC2100 chip.
> In the past few months (before or after the memory loss I'm not sure)
> my computer has been locking up, freezing, crashing (BSOD), etc. I
> upgraded my video card (not because of this problem) and that hasn't
> changed anything either.

But it will it have put a higher load on the PSU? This fault may be PSU
related.

> I got fed up with it so I reformatted and
> installed Windows XP. This crashes just as often. Some programs I
> launch will either crash or freeze the entire computer. Often at
> night I leave it on and in the morning it's frozen and I can't get an
> image on my monitor and I'm forced to push the button.
> I uninstalled
> my SB Audigy but that didn't help. I unplugged USB devices and put my
> USB mouse on the PS/2 port. I upgarded the BIOS to the latest version
> and set the BIOS settings to "fail-safe defaults".

Which tester (below) did you use?

> I ran a memory
> test overnight and it didn't find any errors. I'm not sure what else
> I can do. I now suspect the motherboard.

Have you run it longer than overnight?

> Does this sound like the motherboard? I had to buy a new mb and find
> the same problem. But I'm running out of options.

It would be worth trying another PSU.


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On 14 Jul 2004 00:33:44 -0700, please_do_not_reply@hotmail.com (Michael
Akins) wrote:

>I've got a homebuild system that is a couple years old, based on the
>EP-8KHA+ with an AMD 2400+. A few months ago one of my memory chips
>went out so I remove it and now run with a single 512meg PC2100 chip.
>In the past few months (before or after the memory loss I'm not sure)
>my computer has been locking up, freezing, crashing (BSOD), etc. I
>upgraded my video card (not because of this problem) and that hasn't
>changed anything either. I got fed up with it so I reformatted and
>installed Windows XP. This crashes just as often. Some programs I
>launch will either crash or freeze the entire computer. Often at
>night I leave it on and in the morning it's frozen and I can't get an
>image on my monitor and I'm forced to push the button. I uninstalled
>my SB Audigy but that didn't help. I unplugged USB devices and put my
>USB mouse on the PS/2 port. I upgarded the BIOS to the latest version
>and set the BIOS settings to "fail-safe defaults". I ran a memory
>test overnight and it didn't find any errors. I'm not sure what else
>I can do. I now suspect the motherboard.
>
>Does this sound like the motherboard? I had to buy a new mb and find
>the same problem. But I'm running out of options.
>
>Michael


Could be a motherboard problem. My 8KHA+ went that way. You need to check
for dodgy capacitors, are any of them leaking or have domed tops ? If so,
you need a new mobo.

Don't Get Me Started.
 
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> >I've got a homebuild system that is a couple years old, based on the
> >EP-8KHA+ with an AMD 2400+. A few months ago one of my memory chips
> >went out so I remove it and now run with a single 512meg PC2100 chip.
> >In the past few months (before or after the memory loss I'm not sure)
> >my computer has been locking up, freezing, crashing (BSOD), etc. I
> >upgraded my video card (not because of this problem) and that hasn't
> >changed anything either. I got fed up with it so I reformatted and
> >installed Windows XP. This crashes just as often. Some programs I
> >launch will either crash or freeze the entire computer. Often at
> >night I leave it on and in the morning it's frozen and I can't get an
> >image on my monitor and I'm forced to push the button. I uninstalled
> >my SB Audigy but that didn't help. I unplugged USB devices and put my
> >USB mouse on the PS/2 port. I upgarded the BIOS to the latest version
> >and set the BIOS settings to "fail-safe defaults". I ran a memory
> >test overnight and it didn't find any errors. I'm not sure what else
> >I can do. I now suspect the motherboard.
> >
> >Does this sound like the motherboard? I had to buy a new mb and find
> >the same problem. But I'm running out of options.
> >
> >Michael
>
>
> Could be a motherboard problem. My 8KHA+ went that way. You need to check
> for dodgy capacitors, are any of them leaking or have domed tops ? If so,
> you need a new mobo.
>
> Don't Get Me Started.

Just a follow-up note, in order to help others: I bought a new
motherboard (Asus) and now everything is fine. It was definitely the
motherboard. Now my CPU temp is 44 even when 100% used rendering
video. With the Epox I was over 50 idle. I also applied artic silver
to the CPU/heatsink when I upgraded, so that could help too.

Life's too short and motherboards too cheap to suffer through crashes
caused by a bad motherboard!

Michael
 
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Michael Akins wrote:

> Just a follow-up note, in order to help others: I bought a new
> motherboard (Asus) and now everything is fine. It was definitely the
> motherboard. Now my CPU temp is 44 even when 100% used rendering
> video. With the Epox I was over 50 idle. I also applied artic silver
> to the CPU/heatsink when I upgraded, so that could help too.

The evidence is very slim but I feel 44ºC when under high load is
too low. Did you check that the clock multiplier and any FSB
clock links are correctly selected?

> Life's too short and motherboards too cheap to suffer through crashes
> caused by a bad motherboard!

Here, here!


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> Could be a motherboard problem. My 8KHA+ went that way. You need to check
> for dodgy capacitors, are any of them leaking or have domed tops ? If so,
> you need a new mobo.

You were completely right. While looking at my old Epox board before
taking out the trash, I noticed that almost all the capacitors were
leaking out the top!!

-Michael
 
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> The evidence is very slim but I feel 44ºC when under high load is
> too low. Did you check that the clock multiplier and any FSB
> clock links are correctly selected?

You are correct. The windows xp system -> hardware -> devices reports
that I have an Athlon XP 1800+ and I really have a 2400+. And I
thought my problems were solved. I will set up the BIOS correctly, I
hope it won't destabalize my system. If it does I guess I can always
keep it set to be 1800+, it may be slower but it's very stable.

Michael
 
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"Michael Akins" <please_do_not_reply@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c9a51356.0407242238.626b25e4@posting.google.com...
> > The evidence is very slim but I feel 44ºC when under high load is
> > too low. Did you check that the clock multiplier and any FSB
> > clock links are correctly selected?
>
> You are correct. The windows xp system -> hardware -> devices reports
> that I have an Athlon XP 1800+ and I really have a 2400+. And I
> thought my problems were solved. I will set up the BIOS correctly, I
> hope it won't destabalize my system. If it does I guess I can always
> keep it set to be 1800+, it may be slower but it's very stable.

<smiles> If you leave it under clocked, you'll be able to under-run the
CPU voltage too! This would reduce the heat generated and could
lead to reducing the fan speeds and hence the noise generated.

But you should be able to get it going 'properly'.


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Michael

Sorry to hear that. If in the USA/Canada register on our website
www.epox.com/usa/register.asp then contact support for repair options.

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"Michael Akins" <please_do_not_reply@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c9a51356.0407242236.3c1320b@posting.google.com...
> > Could be a motherboard problem. My 8KHA+ went that way. You need to
check
> > for dodgy capacitors, are any of them leaking or have domed tops ? If
so,
> > you need a new mobo.
>
> You were completely right. While looking at my old Epox board before
> taking out the trash, I noticed that almost all the capacitors were
> leaking out the top!!
>
> -Michael
 
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