[SOLVED] ESENT webcache error (This problem is likely due to faulty hardware)

[robertkjr3d]

My specs are :
BIOSTAR TA970
CPU: FX-4350 (its set at 4200mhz) 4-logical cores
64GB RAM (4-sticks)
GPU: AMD Radeon 7800 1024mb RAM
Antivirus/Malware: Spyhunter5
Componets: 4 physical hard-drives (2SSD , 2 IDE)

I've tested and tested the drives. But especially the main 'SSD' Windows drive.
I have run multiple tests on the RAM.
(I did have a problem with ram 2-sticks. They were RMA'd, then I got two new ones. They are fine. That seems to be a separate issue.)

I've read about this error, that it can be caused by a malware. Or It could be caused by just like it says. "Faulty Hardware". But I'm not finding any problems with my drives or ram. I have thought about the Mobo.
My Windows C Drive is a ADATA SSD, and it posts with AS-SSD Benchmark
Seq read 375.80MB/s, Write 372.49MB/s.... There is 30gb left on the drive. So that's about right for that quality of drive I believe. The max I've seen people get is 450.

Note: I've also gotten some crashes with Chrome. Chrome has not treated me so well. I mean severe crashes. Like where it locks up most of the machine. I have threatened to rebuild-windows at times, but I don't want to do that. It might be related to the ESENT errors. The other thing I thought it might be. Is that I have a lot of USB peripherals. And I followed steps, to uninstall all of them. Then the system of course: Naturally, finds them again, and reinstalls. Yes I've uninstalled Chrome, and reinstalled. I haven't had chrome lock up in a week or so. I've threatened to switch to firefox too.

A full-scan with Spyhunter-5 finds nothing.

Many folks on the net have said that Powerliks malware can cause the ESENT error. And that Spyhunter is a good one to get rid of it. I suppose a new strain could still be hiding from the scan.

BTW: I have a FX-9590 CPU chip for this machine on order that will double my cores. It was super-cheap, because they are not sought after anymore. An easy cheap upgrade...

 

[Rogue Leader]

BTW: I have a FX-9590 CPU chip for this machine on order that will double my cores. It was super-cheap, because they are not sought after anymore. An easy cheap upgrade...

DO NOT install that CPU in that motherboard, you will damage both the board and the CPU. It will run horribly and crash all the time. That board cannot properly support that CPU. Return it.

 

[logainofhades]

A worthless upgrade, to be honest. Even with a super high overclock, on nitrogen, it is slower than a much slower clocked Ryzen. Not to mention that board cannot handle that CPU. What is the make/model, of your power supply?

https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/you-can...ip-to-75ghz-but-ryzen-will-still-bulldoze-it/

 

[robertkjr3d]

A worthless upgrade, to be honest. Even with a super high overclock, on nitrogen, it is slower than a much slower clocked Ryzen. Not to mention that board cannot handle that CPU. What is the make/model, of your power supply?

https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/you-can...ip-to-75ghz-but-ryzen-will-still-bulldoze-it/

This was nothing to do with the question. I should not have put that in there. But upgrading to a whole-new machine with new memory and a ryzen CPU will be over$1000. I've looked at that cost. I've seen many with this chip in their build. Can you find those that are having huge issues? http://valid.x86.fr/5prnnd

10 compatibility rating here:
https://www.pc-specs.com/cpu/AMD/FX/FX-9590/1875/Compatible_Motherboards

 

[USAFRet]

Motherboard:
http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=748#cpusupport
FX-9590 not listed.

AMD 140W processor support


CPU:
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-9590

Default TDP / TDP 220W
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You can argue the point all you want.
But it will not work well, if at all.

 

[robertkjr3d]

DO NOT install that CPU in that motherboard, you will damage both the board and the CPU. It will run horribly and crash all the time. That board cannot properly support that CPU. Return it.

10 compatibility rating here:
https://www.pc-specs.com/cpu/AMD/FX/FX-9590/1875/Compatible_Motherboards

 

[robertkjr3d]

Motherboard:
http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=748#cpusupport
FX-9590 not listed.

AMD 140W processor support


CPU:
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-9590

Default TDP / TDP 220W
----------------------------------------------------

You can argue the point all you want.
But it will not work well, if at all.

Well actually that makes sense (140W support)
And the chip is 220W.
OK
Thank you. Anybody want to think of the original question.

 

[Rogue Leader]

10 compatibility rating here:
https://www.pc-specs.com/cpu/AMD/FX/FX-9590/1875/Compatible_Motherboards

It will run in that it turns on, but it will NOT work properly. As USAFRet Mentioned, 140w board (really 125w, and even then it would have a hard time with its 4+1 power phase) 220w cpu. That website is trash. The builds you found? no chance in the world they are running properly if at all.

As for your curent issue? I think your board is failing. If you can test out the other components and are still getting a Hardware failure, chances are.... Biostar is not known for high quality equipment.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Faulty board. Crappy processor. There is no need to revisit the original question. It has already been answered in full detail. We've seen, literally, thousands of posts just like yours and the answer is ALWAYS exactly the same.

Even on the VERY BEST AM3+ motherboards, the FX 9590 is a problematic, super heated, unstable pile of crap. There is no board you can buy that will change that and with a VERY low quality board like you have, you can multiply those problems by tenfold.

 

[robertkjr3d]

I didn't know there was so much hate for FX processors. I googled such, and yes its out there.
I doubt you guys are actually being helpful anymore.
The most helpful you were was the 140W/220W issue. And that was barely pertaining to the original question. Just because it is Biostar. And your prejudice against the board-type, and the processor type. Means it must be the board. This is like racial discrimination.

BTW... I don't have the FX-9590 (its still on a slow-boat from china, don't get confused)
I have the FX-4350

If it is the board? Wouldn't i experience some other symptoms? Not just ESENT errors. Or you work for Ryzen, and tell everyone. Just upgrade. And just spend money.

 

[Rogue Leader]

If it is the board? Wouldn't i experience some other symptoms? Not just ESENT errors. Or you work for Ryzen, and tell everyone. Just upgrade. And just spend money.

Please do not imply we work for AMD or anyone with a financial interest here, we do not. I apologize for the vehemence of our responses, but unfortunately we have had very often people come in with similar questions to yours and the belief that the FX-9590 is the solution to everything, and worse no matter how much advice we give telling us we are wrong and it will be fine. It never ever is.

As for your issue, you won't necessarily have other problems, see the thing is with motherboards they have many many components, any number of them can fail or be failing and cause you a lot of problems while only manifesting themselves in simple issues that lead to long term ones. Its kind of like when people overclock ram and don't test it properly. They boot up windows and eh it seems to work. Then it crashes occasionally but eh its fine when I reboot. The reality is in the background its slowly corrupting your windows install, and one day, the system isn't going to reboot.

That particular board you have (and Biostar in general) has a poor track record. I'm taking you at your word that you properly tested the things you said you did, if thats the case then you're having a board issue. OR your CPU is going bad but that is ultra rare. Motherboards and Hard drives are the main things that fail over times in PCs.

 

[robertkjr3d]

Please do not imply we work for AMD or anyone with a financial interest here, we do not. I apologize for the vehemence of our responses, but unfortunately we have had very often people come in with similar questions to yours and the belief that the FX-9590 is the solution to everything, and worse no matter how much advice we give telling us we are wrong and it will be fine. It never ever is.

As for your issue, you won't necessarily have other problems, see the thing is with motherboards they have many many components, any number of them can fail or be failing and cause you a lot of problems while only manifesting themselves in simple issues that lead to long term ones. Its kind of like when people overclock ram and don't test it properly. They boot up windows and eh it seems to work. Then it crashes occasionally but eh its fine when I reboot. The reality is in the background its slowly corrupting your windows install, and one day, the system isn't going to reboot.

That particular board you have (and Biostar in general) has a poor track record. I'm taking you at your word that you properly tested the things you said you did, if thats the case then you're having a board issue. OR your CPU is going bad but that is ultra rare. Motherboards and Hard drives are the main things that fail over times in PCs.

This configuration in the PC is old... older than most would continue to run.
End of life? Maybe ... I bought the Biostar and FX-4350 new. (years and years ago)
As i mentioned I have recently replaced 2 out of 4 sticks of ram. Recently I had found one of my IDE drives was failing a SMART test. So I replaced it with a SSD. (not the Windows-drive)

I might be quicker to blame all these windows-10 major updates. I thought you might be telling me to reinstall windows or something. Or find some registry key. Not just... oh your hardware is bad. And the only evidence of such. Is the error, I've already mentioned. Normally when you diagnose a computer. Woudn't you check something first? Instead... at least your friends have said 'Biostar' and 'FX' and say... must be 'bad'.

I suppose if I can muster enough courage ... I have been thinkin... to buy the Ryzen 9 3900x mobo combo. But to pull that trigger will need some doing. My DDR3 memory is also useless.

 

[Rogue Leader]

This configuration in the PC is old... older than most would continue to run.
End of life? Maybe ... I bought the Biostar and FX-4350 new. (years and years ago)
As i mentioned I have recently replaced 2 out of 4 sticks of ram. Recently I had found one of my IDE drives was failing a SMART test. So I replaced it with a SSD. (not the Windows-drive)

I might be quicker to blame all these windows-10 major updates. I thought you might be telling me to reinstall windows or something. Or find some registry key. Not just... or your hardware is bad. And the only evidence of such. Is the error, I've already mentioned. Normally when you diagnose a computer. Woudn't you check something first? Instead... at least your friends have said 'Biostar' and 'FX' and say... must be 'bad'.

I suppose if I can muster enough courage ... I have been thinkin... to buy the Ryzen 9 3900x mobo combo. But to pull that trigger will need some doing. My DDR3 memory is also useless.

Eh you could try to reinstall windows, but hardware errors like that come from hardware reporting issues to the OS, and TBH other than viruses I've never heard of these things popping up randomly. Despite all the people that think they know better saying Windows is bad, its error reporting is very accurate, if hard to decipher.

The main things that cause random hardware errors? Failing drives (you replaced it), failing memory (you replaced that too). I mean I'm sitting somewhere else in the world responding to you I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you to test/replace the things that you've already done. There is no registry key, there is no magic check. If Windows is telling you your hardware is failing, and the antivirus software which is known to cure false errors of this type isn't finding it, logically at this point, the issue is true. As for what it is, since you're not seeing an immediate visible issue it may be in the drive controller or motherboard chipset. Like I said there is still a chance there is a failure in the CPU, but the possibility of that is really miniscule.

If you want to see it crash I'd try running some heavy system benchmarks and drive benchmarks. I have no guarantees for you, it may not crash, and maybe the failure is minor and you can continue for a while.

A 3900X is major overkill depending on your use, that said The performance difference is on another planet. But don't take my word for it you can buy an Intel 9900k as well and get similarly otherworldly performance, just in case you still think I'm on someones payroll. 😛

 

[robertkjr3d]

Eh you could try to reinstall windows, but hardware errors like that come from hardware reporting issues to the OS, and TBH other than viruses I've never heard of these things popping up randomly. Despite all the people that think they know better saying Windows is bad, its error reporting is very accurate, if hard to decipher.

The main things that cause random hardware errors? Failing drives (you replaced it), failing memory (you replaced that too). I mean I'm sitting somewhere else in the world responding to you I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you to test/replace the things that you've already done. There is no registry key, there is no magic check. If Windows is telling you your hardware is failing, and the antivirus software which is known to cure false errors of this type isn't finding it, logically at this point, the issue is true. As for what it is, since you're not seeing an immediate visible issue it may be in the drive controller or motherboard chipset. Like I said there is still a chance there is a failure in the CPU, but the possibility of that is really miniscule.

If you want to see it crash I'd try running some heavy system benchmarks and drive benchmarks. I have no guarantees for you, it may not crash, and maybe the failure is minor and you can continue for a while.

A 3900X is major overkill depending on your use, that said The performance difference is on another planet. But don't take my word for it you can buy an Intel 9900k as well and get similarly otherworldly performance, just in case you still think I'm on someones payroll. 😛

I haven't done a CPU or GPU burn test in a while...
But I have done a Drive burn test... and it didn't have issues.

Why would I go for 12core 24thread... ? I do play some games. I do 49windows open in zoom at the same time. And there are CPU requirements for that. You need at least an 8-core. I also do heavy video stuff with 3-screens, and editing. Also it has a chance to last another 7years. Where as if I buy something smaller (less-overkill), the life-span, might be shorter.

 

[Rogue Leader]

I haven't done a CPU or GPU burn test in a while...
But I have done a Drive burn test... and it didn't have issues.

Why would I go for 12core 24thread... ? I do play some games. I do 49windows open in zoom at the same time. And there are CPU requirements for that. You need at least an 8-core. I also do heavy video stuff with 3-screens, and editing. Also it has a chance to last another 7years. Where as if I buy something smaller (less-overkill), the life-span, might be shorter.

Its worth trying. Your GPU is highly not likely the problem, CPU test is worth trying.

Totally understand your reasons thats why I said "might be overkill". For your use case it would be a massive difference over what you have now or what a 9590 could have given you.

 

[robertkjr3d]

Its worth trying. Your GPU is highly not likely the problem, CPU test is worth trying.

Totally understand your reasons thats why I said "might be overkill". For your use case it would be a massive difference over what you have now or what a 9590 could have given you.

I just did userbenchmark.com --- And for everything it benchmarked, except one. My device scored 'below expectations', and 'way below expectations'... Of course I had a lot of things running. I might try it again later.
I'm running Prime95 as a CPU-test as I type. My Core is up to 72C, but probably not that high. No Event-Errors yet.

Oh... and as I kept typing.. I got this:
RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64 --- Prime95

 

[USAFRet]

userbenchmark is a flawed tool. Badly flawed.

'below expectation'....below WHAT?
Compared to what? Systems that are optimized and overclocked.

And yes, having a lot things running has major effects.

 

[Rogue Leader]

I just did userbenchmark.com --- And for everything it benchmarked, except one. My device scored 'below expectations', and 'way below expectations'... Of course I had a lot of things running. I might try it again later.
I'm running Prime95 as a CPU-test as I type. My Core is up to 72C, but probably not that high. No Event-Errors yet.

Oh... and as I kept typing.. I got this:
RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64 --- Prime95

A lot of things running will affect benchmarks.

Temperature measurement on FX processors is ONLY correct when measuring thermal margin via AMD Overdrive, any other software you use is wrong.

That error indicates a memory leak. I would try it again WITHOUT a ton of things running in the background, and see what happens. Reboot too.

 

[popatim]

RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64 --- Prime95

Time to run memtest86 for 6-8hrs and see if you get any errors.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Are ALL four of your memory modules from ONE single kit, or from multiple, mixed kits?

What speed are your memory modules?

Have you tried INCREASING the DRAM voltage, since you have four DIMMs installed? Bumping the DRAM voltage UP by about .005-.020v might be all that is needed. Often, if you are running 1866mhz or higher DIMMs, you cannot get more than two DIMMs in a configuration to be stable on many of those AM3 and AM3+ platforms. Sometimes you can make them work with a slight bump in DRAM voltage or a slight overclock to the CPU. Sometimes nothing will help with four DIMMs.

Try taking two DIMMs out, leaving only the two DIMMs that are in the second and fourth slot over from the CPU (Making sure that those two remaining DIMMs are from the same kit, being matched to each other) and see if you still have problems with only two DIMMs installed.