ETH mining + workstation + NAS

[lachiu]

Hey

I was considering to buy this:

• 
  Sharkoon VS4-S
  Pentium G4400
  ASRock B150M Pro4S
  4GB Crucial cheap memory DDR4-2133
  128GB Intenso Top 3
  2x 3GB Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce OC
  Corsair VS650

Now the thing is, I still live with my parents and they are planning on buying a new computer to run Wilcom Embroidery Studio. It's now running on an old i3 laptop with 2gb ram and a GT210M. It crashes very often in case you wanted to know how poorly it would run.

I don't think it would be an issue but it would be possible to run a VM to mine and other uses. But I think the NAS would and could be an issue.

Would I just need to do the same as in this video from Linus?
Assigning 4 threads to the normal workload, 2 to the NAS and 2 to VM for mining?

Since my parents still want something clean, would I need to go for a motherboard with 3 PCIE 3.0 x16 ports (since risers look a bit weird in a very nice room, no offense)

Why 3 cards now? Because I might be able to afford 3 of them.
And yes I'm aware that near October I'll need to upgrade the gpu's for ETH mining.

I'm currently looking at the following for the current situation:

• 
  NZXT S340
  i7-7700k
  MSI Z270 SLI
  16GB HyperX Fury White (1st&3rd slot)
  8GB HyperX Fury Black, yes I typed black (2nd&4th)
  120GB SanDisk Plus x2 (1 for os for main part, 2nd one for mining?)
  WD40EFRX 2x (NAS)
  WD10EZRZ (for main part)
  Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce OC 3GB 3x
  Be Quiet! Straight Power 10 CM 700w

8gb ram for NAS
8gb ram for mining
2x4gb ram for Wilcom studio

The specs required to run Wilcom Embroidery Studio can be seen below

Spoiler

• 
  Minimum Requirements
  
  CPU - Intel® Core i3 or AMD Athlon™ 64
  Operating System – Windows 7 32-bit with latest updates and service pack
  Browser – Microsoft Edge or IE11.0
  Memory – 4 GB
  Free Hard Disk Space – 40 GB
  Graphics Card and Monitor – Support for 32bit and 1600 x 900 resolution
  
  
  Recommended
  
  CPU – Latest Intel® Core i7
  Operating System – Windows 10 64-bit with latest updates and service pack
  Browser – Microsoft Edge or later
  Memory – 8 GB
  Free Hard Disk Space – 256 GB or more (Solid State Drive)
  Graphics Card and Monitor – Support for Highest Color 32bit and 1920 x 1080 resolution or higher
  

Thanks in advance guys, really appreciate it.
PS: would the Ryzen 7 1700 be better for this kind of stuff?

 

[USAFRet]

ETH mining + workstation + NAS

In a single box?
No.

Have you run through the various calculators for this mining to see what theoretical earning you might get?
Have you gotten your parents on board with the increased electricity bill?

 

[lachiu]

ETH mining + workstation + NAS

Have you run through the various calculators for this mining to see what theoretical earning you might get?
Have you gotten your parents on board with the increased electricity bill?

Yes, it gives me quiet a good amount of profit.

Yes they are aware of it and I'll pay it back.

 

[gillhooley]

You are trying to do too much with 1 PC and you are going to have nothing but issues, IMO. Mining only makes sense if you are running 24x7x365 and that will make you computer so bogged down, not to mention I don't think VM mining is going to work as well as you think, and AM is the only GPUS to make money mining right now.

1. Get a standalone NAS, easy, clean, always on, low power.
2. Don't Mine eth you won't make much money, you will just increase your parents power bill
3. Don't get multiple GPUS get 1 good GPU, so much easier and less power.

 

[USAFRet]

ETH mining + workstation + NAS

Have you run through the various calculators for this mining to see what theoretical earning you might get?
Have you gotten your parents on board with the increased electricity bill?

Yes, it gives me quiet a good amount of profit.

Yes they are aware of it and I'll pay it back.

And what numbers are you seeing that this will return you?
Obviously deducting hardware and electricity...

 

[gillhooley]

For people trying to mine with 1 or 2 GPUS, seriously donate plasma its easier and more fool proof way to make a few bucks LOL

 

[lachiu]

According to a dutch site, I'll get 50MH/s from 2 1060's. That makes it 75MH/s for 3 1060's.

Profit per month: 515.98$
Profit per year 6277.72$
Power cost/Month 22.58$ (0.04€ / KW/h=0.0448$)
Power cost/Year 274.71$ (0.04€ / KW/h=0.0448$)


According to cryptocompare

 

[lachiu]

You are trying to do too much with 1 PC and you are going to have nothing but issues, IMO. Mining only makes sense if you are running 24x7x365 and that will make you computer so bogged down, not to mention I don't think VM mining is going to work as well as you think, and AM is the only GPUS to make money mining right now.

1. Get a standalone NAS, easy, clean, always on, low power.
2. Don't Mine eth you won't make much money, you will just increase your parents power bill
3. Don't get multiple GPUS get 1 good GPU, so much easier and less power.

1. They nor I want 3 cases.
2. It does according to the graphs
3. That's not the point of mining.

 

[USAFRet]

According to a dutch site, I'll get 50MH/s from 2 1060's. That makes it 75MH/s for 3 1060's.

Profit per month: 515.98$
Profit per year 6277.72$
Power cost/Month 22.58$ (0.04€ / KW/h=0.0448$)
Power cost/Year 274.71$ (0.04€ / KW/h=0.0448$)


According to cryptocompare

In any case...trying to do ALL of that in one single box is not recommended.

But once you build whatever, I encourage you to come back here in 6 months and report on actual money earned.
Not 'coin' amounts...actual money after conversion.

 

[lachiu]

So would it be possible to do all of this in one machine or should I go with an amd ryzen 7 1700 since it has a few more cores and threads.

 

[USAFRet]

So would it be possible to do all of this in one machine or should I go with an amd ryzen 7 1700 since it has a few more cores and threads.

No, this needs to be in at least 2 different systems, preferably 3.

 

[cryoburner]

According to a dutch site, I'll get 50MH/s from 2 1060's. That makes it 75MH/s for 3 1060's.
Profit per month: 515.98$
Profit per year 6277.72$
Power cost/Month 22.58$ (0.04€ / KW/h=0.0448$)
Power cost/Year 274.71$ (0.04€ / KW/h=0.0448$)

Is your electricity cost actually only around 4 cents per kilowatt-hour though? The average cost of electricity in the US is currently over 12 cents per kilowatt-hour, although it varies by state, and it can be significantly higher in some areas.

Also, this assumes that the profits from mining this cryptocurrency will remain that high for an extended length of time. I certainly wouldn't expect that to be the case, and it will probably drop quite a bit over the coming months as more people jump on to mining it, so I would not expect that kind of profit per month to last for very long.

One other thing worth pointing out is that this hardware seems like extreme overkill for running some embroidery software. : P

 

[lachiu]

I don't live in the US. And yes I'm aware of it being an average.

The i7 won't only be used for the embroidery software, also a nas and a mining machine.

 

[lachiu]

up

 

[USAFRet]

up

Please don't bump your threads.
Thanks.

 

[lachiu]

up

Please don't bump your threads.
Thanks.

I'm sorry, as you can see I'm not that active on TH, but still I expected way more responses on this forum.

 

[USAFRet]

Not sure what you were expecting, but there were 12 replies, with various opinions and suggestions.

 

[lachiu]

Not sure what you were expecting, but there were 12 replies, with various opinions and suggestions.

As I'm aware I only got 2 replies which are worthy to be called a reply.

Only 1 of them answered my question.

 

[USAFRet]

The answers you received may not have been the answers you wanted.
But that does not automatically make them wrong.

 

[lachiu]

The answers you received may not have been the answers you wanted.
But that does not automatically make them wrong.

I never said that I didn't want those answers, you answered my question, but the other guy didn't. He said that it's not power efficient. But that's not the point here.

 

[gillhooley]

The main point is, You can certainly use your rig to mine. BUT when you mine your system resources will be taxed so heavily it will run terrible for all other purposes. Adding cores for a Ryzen would help some, but also hurt the power consumption that would hurt mining returns. The GPU is the key to your mining and running that in a VM would hurt your throughput as the GPU driver is not going to be as efficient running through a VM, also the VM will eat up more resources, further hurting usability on the system when mining. Best case if you really want 1 System, make it easy to start and stop mining when you want to use the system for other purposes. The NAS piece will run fine 24/7 with the other things you want to do.

But truly setup 2 systems, you and your parents will be so much happier.
1. Mining rig, in a room running as a headless mining rig.
2. Everything else and the NAS and heck set it to mine in off hours.

 

[lachiu]

The main point is, You can certainly use your rig to mine. BUT when you mine your system resources will be taxed so heavily it will run terrible for all other purposes. Adding cores for a Ryzen would help some, but also hurt the power consumption that would hurt mining returns. The GPU is the key to your mining and running that in a VM would hurt your throughput as the GPU driver is not going to be as efficient running through a VM, also the VM will eat up more resources, further hurting usability on the system when mining. Best case if you really want 1 System, make it easy to start and stop mining when you want to use the system for other purposes. The NAS piece will run fine 24/7 with the other things you want to do.

But truly setup 2 systems, you and your parents will be so much happier.
1. Mining rig, in a room running as a headless mining rig.
2. Everything else and the NAS and heck set it to mine in off hours.

So for the NAS + "workstation", would a ryzen 5 1600 be enough?

 

[gillhooley]

Yes for sure. Even a G4560 would be enough for most everyday tasks and some gaming.