[SOLVED] ethernet to coax ( reverse from MoCA )

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Hello everyone, and I apologize if this is a typical or repeat question. I am new here but a regular on the Camaro and Chevelle forums so I know the importance of searching before asking. I have spent the last few days searching for my answer, but keep coming up with the opposite of what I am looking for ( or at least so it seems ). Of all of the websites I have stumbled upon, yours seems full of intelligent answers.

I have a detached shop which is about 100' from my house. When I put in the shop I ran an underground CAT6 from the house, but did not run coax. I would now like to hook up a cable box out there but my cable boxes only have a coax input.

I have a MoCA adapter at the router, which I believe should push the correct signal, but I guess I am looking for something to convert the ethernet signal back to coax so I can branch that out to the cable box. Maybe I just don't understand and this automatically works both ways making this a dumb question..., but all the boxes I see online have coax as the "in" and ethernet as the "out". Plus everything I searched turns up discussing running ethernet over coax, which is the opposite of what I am looking for.

Any help is appreciated...., Is there a box or adapter I can put in the shop that will take the ethernet from the house as the input and convert that to coax, which can simply run to the input side of the cable box ?

Is it even possible to do this ? I have survived on youtube and Hulu for the past year, but would really like to get the few cable channels I enjoy out there as well.


Many thanks in advance


Joe
 
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Thanks Bill01g

I was hoping there would be some type of adapter that could reverse the MoCA that is happening at the router, and that I would just be able to "reverse" it on the other side of the 100' CAT6. and run that coax directly to the cablebox. I guess another option would be to just run some coax from the house to the shop...,

Thanks for taking time to reply. I appreciate it.

Do you need to watch regular cable, or do you need on-demand as well?

If you don't need on-demand, you can try and find a used Silicon Dust HDhomerun PRIME box. I installed one at my parents house to reduce their cable bill. You'll need to get a cable card from your cable company to install on the box, they're required by law to support...
You have 2 different things here. The physical wire and the ethernet protocol being run over it. There are device for example that extend HDMI cables over "ethernet" wires. They are not sending ethernet type of data packets over the wire so calling it ethernet is not really true. There are similar devices that allow say a over the air tv channel to use the "ethernet" cable. It more or less let you use ethernet as a antenna.

Now you might find a device that lets you send cable tv signals over this type of cable. Problem is it likely is only really sold to cable companies and you would still have the issue of the encryption of the tv channels by your cable company. Your current data likely would not co-exist.

So what I recommend you do is do what people do who want to watch cable tv in someone else house over the internet. It has been years since I looked at this technology but people use what is called a "sling" box. There likely are many other similar solution now days. It in effect puts a computer in that connects to the cable tv box. It then captures and coverts one video channel to a data stream that can be send over any data network. In your case it would be much simpler since it is just ethernet and no routers, vpn port forwarding etc.
 
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Thanks Bill01g

I was hoping there would be some type of adapter that could reverse the MoCA that is happening at the router, and that I would just be able to "reverse" it on the other side of the 100' CAT6. and run that coax directly to the cablebox. I guess another option would be to just run some coax from the house to the shop...,

Thanks for taking time to reply. I appreciate it.
 
Thanks Bill01g

I was hoping there would be some type of adapter that could reverse the MoCA that is happening at the router, and that I would just be able to "reverse" it on the other side of the 100' CAT6. and run that coax directly to the cablebox. I guess another option would be to just run some coax from the house to the shop...,

Thanks for taking time to reply. I appreciate it.

Do you need to watch regular cable, or do you need on-demand as well?

If you don't need on-demand, you can try and find a used Silicon Dust HDhomerun PRIME box. I installed one at my parents house to reduce their cable bill. You'll need to get a cable card from your cable company to install on the box, they're required by law to support cable card. I bought one used for $50, but they sell on their store for $150 after coupon code: https://shop.silicondust.com/shop/product/hdhomerun-prime-pn-hdhr3-cc/

The silicon dust box will tune cable channels, then stream them on your home network. So as long as you have decent >20mbps wifi signal or ethernet, you can watch your cable tv.

Then, you'll need the CHANNELS app(https://getchannels.com/) or Hdhomerun app. To run the app, you'll need a smart tv box like Roku, Android TV(Nvidia Shield), or Firetv. Don't buy a cheap bottom of the barrel smart tv box, make sure you buy one with decent ram and power. The HDhomerun and channels app have a tendency to freeze up with lower power sticks and boxes.

You can also watch on your smart phone and tablet as well. It's great for outdoor BBQ's and stuff like that as well. That way you can keep an eye on the football score and major plays when grilling your steaks!
 
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Hello gggplaya, I just wanted to be be able to watch cable channels thru a non HD cable box. It does not have multiroom, or DVR, etc. Just a plain old box. I have a MoCA adapter at the router that has a CAT5 to the router, so I believe the correct signal is already in the router and it should not need any decryption other than what the box itself does. If I have the cablebox in the living room with me, it works just fine from a coax. I was just hoping to de-convert the signal from CAT6 to coax.

Thanks for the post, I will look into the Silicon dust box