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Alvar "Miles" Udell said:
Easy, there are a lot of people with more money (or credit) than sense, and they need things like this to compensate for something,
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I agree to some extent, but this particular one is exorbitant and I can't see it selling out at that price. The current market has determined a 3090 is worth about $2600. With the current stat of mining profitability, it should be lower, but it takes time for the market to catch up. $1400+ more for a Ti? That's almost the original MSRP of the 3090. The 3090Ti will be released too late for this price. Miners aren't going to touch this card. $4000 pre tax for a card that may make $5 a day? That's well over 2 years just to break even. There is a market of people willing to spend $1500 up to maybe $2000 on a gaming card with no mining in the picture. More than twice that? There's no market for that.
 
wastanley734 said:
You've done your math wrong euros are worth morth than the American dollar. 0.87euro=1.00usd so that like $5000!
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It seems you ignored "converted without tax" note. There is certainly something off with their calculation, but the price is still nowhere close to US$5,000.

In the EU, all consumer prices must by law include taxes (rationale being that no hidden costs are allowed in marketing; this is the actual cost to the buyer).

It seems Tom's Hardware did their calculation erroneously* with a 25% VAT rate which is in effect in Croatia, Denmark and Sweden:

€4,332.11 incl. 25% VAT​
€4,332.11 / 1.25 = €3,465.69 tax-free​
A 0.873427 EUR/USD conversion would yield US$3,967.92​

For Estonia (with a 20% VAT standard rate) it should instead be:

€4,332.11 incl. 20% VAT​
€4,332.11 / 1.20 = €3,610.09 without VAT​
Divide by the same 0.873427 EUR/USD exchange rate => US$4,133.25​

(* Unless the e-tail store detected the reader was in Croatia, Denmark or Sweden, and applied the appropriate VAT to display the up-to-date and accurate price to that country. This is the VAT rate that would then be required to be applied upon a sale. If this is the case, Tom's Hardware's original number is correct.)

The exact exchange rate you get will affect the end result a few dollars, so reporting the converted values down to a cent is meaningless. It should be given as "about $4,133".
 
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This piece assumes that the pricing will work the same as earlier products, and that MSRP and scalper prices will be scaled in sync. I don't think that's necessarily true for the RTX 3090 Ti.

Nvidia made a mistake with the MSRPs of the first wave of RTX 30 series (3090, 3080 and 3070) when no one knew that demand would be sky-high and actual sale prices way up.

Then for subsequent prices Nvidia have had to set their MSRPs based on that precedent; after all a 3060 Ti can't have a suggested price substantially higher than a regular 3070 or it will "look bad".

Now with the RTX 3090 Ti, unlike the previous additional products that slotted between or below existing models, there is no existing upper-tier product whose MSRP to consider as a cap. This means they can set MSRP closer to the actual retail price, therefore scalper prices could be less inflated (as a percentage compared to the arbitrary number that MSRP is).

On the other hand, setting any MSRP for the RTX 3090 Ti would do Nvidia no favors: either the MSRP is seen as much too high, or Nvidia and the partners get flak for the cards actually being much more expensive than MSRP. Or both of the above. So I doubt there'll be an MSRP for the RTX 3090 Ti; Nvidia would want to divert as much hate as possible to the card partners and retailers.
 
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This is prove that the card is meant for miners and not gamers, on top of the fact that it is not a LHR version. Not many gamers will be willing to pay for such an expensive card. Because mining demand have cooled down, which is why Nvidia did not announce it.
 
sepuko said:
Why would anybody care at those prices, this is like buying those gold plated Nokias with diamonds back in the day.
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It become Vertu in computer hardware world, yes. Also at 2019 you would make 2 full blown gaming rigs together with monitor, keyboard and mouse for that price. My current car cost less than mentioned card.

I hope that Intel Ark appearing in market will adjust GPU pricing to sane level at least a bit.
 
watzupken said:
This is prove that the card is meant for miners and not gamers, on top of the fact that it is not a LHR version. Not many gamers will be willing to pay for such an expensive card. Because mining demand have cooled down, which is why Nvidia did not announce it.
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At $4000+, miners aren't going to touch this card. No miner is going to be interested in a card with a 2+year break even point. Nvidia seems to be having problems getting this card to market. It is probably going to be a very low volume halo card. That's how this price is going to be justified, because there certainly isn't a sizable market willing to pay that much for 5-10% more performance than a 3090. When 3090's are going for about $2600 now, what miner is going to spend $4000+ on a 3090Ti?
 
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