EVGA GTX 950: no post, other GPU fine

[Orbit Storm]

Per recommendation via this post, I ordered the EVGA GeForce GTX 950, which arrived today,

I uninstalled all AMD GPU drivers, powered the system down, removed the AMD card, added the 950 and plugged a six-pin PCI-E cable (from the PSU) into the card and then powered on the system... but it refused to post (no audible beep or display).

If I remove the card, the system will post just fine. I can even reattach my R7 240 and boot without issue. I update my MSI 760GM-P34 to the latest BIOS update (HH) and still have the same issue (R7 still works).

I've not yet tested this card on another PC; unfortunately, most of my friends and relatives either own proprietary systems or are strictly console users. The card is receiving power, as evidenced by the running fan. My Corsair CX430 should be more than capable of powering this card so it can't be an issue with the power supply, Perhaps the GPU is DOA but that seems unlikely.

Is my motherboard simply not compatible with this card (despite being told that it is by a few users here and finding nothing to suggest otherwise)? Have I missed a step somehow or installed the card incorrectly?

 

[junkeymonkey]

I do know with a gtx 900 series card they need full uefi bios 's and that board bios maybe too old to support the newer series of NVidia cards ? Your motherboard may not support UEFI GPU.

that's something to look into to get you started

 

[Orbit Storm]

I do know with a gtx 900 series card they need full uefi bios 's and that board bios maybe too old to support the newer series of NVidia cards ?

that's something to look into to get you started

After speaking to both MSI and EVGA, both have confirmed that there should not be any compatibility issues; even less so now that I've upgraded to the most recent BIOS (released just last month).

Furthermore, I haven't seen any mention that UEFI is required for the GTX 950 either.

 

[junkeymonkey]

''I haven't seen any mention that UEFI is required for the GTX 950 either''

you just have not looked its there a lot

even at evga's forums they tell guys this ? but ??? and you know its every ones or everythings fault but there own ..

http://forums.evga.com/GTX-960-on-a-motherboard-with-legacy-non-UEFI-bios-m2450370.aspx

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=267633.0

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184821.0


I think your just too out of date but it look like your bios is kinda resent ? '' 2015-04-23 '' but no where in the specs do I see it says its uefi or not ?? so I figured it was first release bios from way back '' 2011-07-07 ' so????.......

these 900 cards can be funny on older stuff heck even guys with z68 board had a hard time with them

anyway if your board uses a legacy bios your out of luck , that's all there is to it

says here at a new egg review on your board

''Uses a Standard BIOS and not UEFI. ''

so that's in my opinion your issue with a 900 card

 

[Orbit Storm]

''I haven't seen any mention that UEFI is required for the GTX 950 either''

you just have not looked its there a lot

even at evga's forums they tell guys this ? but ??? and you know its every ones or everythings fault but there own ..

http://forums.evga.com/GTX-960-on-a-motherboard-with-legacy-non-UEFI-bios-m2450370.aspx

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=267633.0

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184821.0


I think your just too out of date but it look like your bios is kinda resent ? '' 2015-04-23 '' but no where in the specs do I see it says its uefi or not ?? so I figured it was first release bios from way back '' 2011-07-07 ' so????.......

these 900 cards can be funny on older stuff heck even guys with z68 board had a hard time with them

anyway if your board uses a legacy bios your out of luck , that's all there is to it

Yeah, it;'s just a wee bit confusing because both MSI and EVGA are spinning two entirely different stories.

MSI refuses to confirm whether this board supports UEFI and alleges that UEFI-required cards are backwards compatible and should work, even if faulty, on legacy BIOS boards.

EVGA is saying that the board needs to be UEFI compliant but the fact that the system doesn't post makes them think the card is just defective.

Awfully confusing. I suppose this is what I get for buying an entry-level pre-built system from CyberPower: trash and headache.

 

[junkeymonkey]

I was trying to dig more out on this for you but ??

like these

''The 900 series Nvidia graphics cards require UEFI BIOS''

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/evga-geforce-gtx-950-in-hp-pavilion-hpe-h8-1020/td-p/5645994


''The newer 900 and 1000 series cards from Nvidia require a UEFI compatible motherboard to run, if I remember correctly.''

http://forums.evga.com/Confused-About-My-Graphics-DriverCard-m2495788.aspx

thing is these cards and some ''older'' platform board can have issue .. maybe I'm wrong but I do know a non uefi bios is a killer deal ..

also funny is the guys with 950 and 960 cards at evga forums that the evga rep stated this as well on them have been removed causr I look for them to post to you .. hmmmmmm......

tough call on what to do


''alleges that UEFI-required cards are backwards compatible '' can be but its back to the cards v-bios and some card [more top end ] had a switch to change from uefi to legacy modes ??

things are changing fast in all this hardware . its like there making a big push to stop supporting older stuff. I got a lot of older builds and now cant upgrade to much of nothing on them cause of crap like this

it use to be you bought there hardware to support what you were doing but now it you got to buy new hardware to support them .. quite a few bought a 900 card to find it just don't work and they were not getting any new support for them to like a motherboard bios update so there they sut with a new card that just black screens at the most


I would at least try to check the card in another computer to insure it just not the card being a lemom ? you know your board is ''good''with that AMD card [I don't think they got a uefi only bios like a 900 series ]

''I suppose this is what I get for buying an entry-level pre-built system from CyberPower'' and why we do custom builds and not prebuilts .. but still nothing is 100% guaranteed

 

[Orbit Storm]

Yeah, I think my best recourse is to go with another motherboard but having never been in a similar predicament before (much less have I ever needed to replace a motherboard), I'm not sure where to start looking. I'm a bit wary of creating a thread for assistance with a new motherboard given that over the last year, I've had two threads and multiple responses that all suggested the 750ti or 950.. and as I've already found out over the last 48 hours, neither of those cards were ever compatible with my motherboard; thus, I'm skeptical of the advice being provided by some of the "experts" in the GPU area.

Couple that with the cost associated with the misinformed suggestions by these "experts" (~$170 and 8 hours of stress), I'm even less trusting of seeking advice on this site.

At the very least, it appears you're one of the few good guys here because you provided me with an answer that even MSI and EVGA support was unable to do (credit to EVGA for acknowledging their error later when I asked about UEFI issues though -- MSI still denied the issue).. so thank you.

 

[junkeymonkey]

well cant say how easy its going to be on your end cause nothings the same ? but my sister had a hp and same old story but on it all I had to do for her was change out the board reused the cpu and all the stuff off the hp except what she wanted to improve on like say a vid card and better memory

the hp case was m-atx so a nice m-atx board fit right in the hp case then all it needed was a copy of windows cause the windows on the hp was oem and not transferable ..


''At the very least, it appears you're one of the few good guys here because you provided me with an answer that even MSI and EVGA support was unable to do (credit to EVGA for acknowledging their error later when I asked about UEFI issues though -- MSI still denied the issue).. so thank you.''

well I don't know about being a good guy I tend to piss a lot of folks around toms off I tell it like it is or how I see it not all the sugar coating no one seems to want to point out any bad side of things . I do take it or leave it you were informed . like guys tend to want to promote things and not give ''true'' help or point out a short coming [notice how you never see a bad review here ] like how many time I guy with something like a hp and all say ya, that card will work no issue just stick anything in it when in fact it can be a big a no go so the guy buy a nice card and now left holding the bag .


I sure want to know just what EVGA had to say pretty much word for word cause I could not find any of the posts on there forum on this when I know dang good and well they were there [they tend to remove a lot of posts good or bad from there site ??]

it would be good for the next guy who interested in a evga card to see there reply on that as well


then it could be something else but that bios thing was the first thing to pop in to mind right off the bat in your case .. sorry

well good luck

 

[Orbit Storm]

It was MSI that had stated I could use this GTX 950 with this MSI board.. and they only said that because their version of the GTX 950 has support for auto-switching between legacy BIOS and UEFI -- or at least that is what I was told earlier today by one of their techs.

EVGA simply didn't know that my board wasn't UEFI capable and probably should have asked but once I read your post about UEFI support and called them again to confirm, they agreed with you and said that my board will not be compatible with their card.

I'm looking at a few other brands, namely Gigabyte and Asus for a new board; narrowed it down to AM3+ and micro-ATX.. that's all I should need. I just need to contact Microsoft and find out whether or not my OEM license will be invalidated if I switch boards. Seems like upgrading a motherboard is the worst possible thing to do with any PC.. lol

 

[junkeymonkey]

'' GTX 950 has support for auto-switching between legacy BIOS and UEFI '' that could be true back in the first release 970 days guya with the bios issues did have better luck if they used a MSI card they seem to work when others failed to do so on some of the boards ???

now I never seen that to be 100% true but like said from here on 700 cards had a switch

''After reading this thread recently in which advice was given from Big Dave to use MSI's GTX 750 ti bcause that particular card has a switch to select either UEFI or legacy bios mode, I am now of the understanding that any HP that does not have a UEFI bios cannot use modern GeForce GTX cards from the 900 and the 700 series.

so its not like he states that the msi 900 cards has the switch as well ?? another tough call ??

don't know I guess you could rma the card back to where you bought it from and ask for a trade for the MSI and have it to work over a board swap ??


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2755310/dual-uefi-legacy-bios-video-cards.html

trying to find the straight from the horses mouth specs on that deal i'll bet there thinking about the old 700 cards and don't have a clue on the 900's I don't see the 950 msi stating it has