[SOLVED] Evo Plus 970 - Magician software Data written problems

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i am new on this forum. I bought an Evo plus 970 1TB and put it on a icybox adapter. It run well on a Z97 msi mobo (3.200 read / 2.900 write speeds).
I installed driver for evo, and samsung magician and i have the following problem

In data health on the software i get for no real reason increases in DATA Written. i bought it on 22.03.2021 and configured Over-Provisioning at 10%.

It now says after 2 formats, 343GB written and i only installed software like 40GB max (2 times because of format). Oh and i run crystal mark once...

what i did was, move all cache folders in different drives, even opera browser cache and also temporary download folder of internet download manager. I disabled system restore, mainly all the things that should eat up space from time to time....

It increases maybe a GB a day for sure maybe more, i can tell you tommorow same time and crosscheck the results...

Could the pci express adapter situation writes data for no reason?
 
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fdlap said:
no its more than a week already. if you check above i have for 2 days 11-12GB/day (with minimal use) like browsing and TV player (not streaming), via usb. Even now as we talking it has gone up to 396GB written. i think generally every hour maybe 1GB write and most of the time i watch TV via usb card.... Could it be the writing cache? if i disabled it though it says it could impact speed.

Theese 42 hours included as i said above 2 formats. My ssd is only 40GB filled (including windows).... So nothing actually :)
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Formatted twice?
Installed Windows?

That's probably 25% of that total writes right there.

Check it again in a week.
And then a week after that.


fdlap said:
like browsing and TV player
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Yes, that writes to the cache!
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When you formatted the drive, did you perform a "full format" or "quick format"?

I recently full formatted two Samsung 860 Evo drives, by coincidence i checked data written before and after the full format, and after both full formats were performed, both drive's total data written in Samsung Magician, increased by the amount of space availbale on the drives. They were both 1 TB drives, so data written after each full format, increased by roughly 900-something GBs

Crystal Disk Mark also writes a fair amount of data during testing.

So if you for example performed two full formats of the drive, and ran Crystal Disk Mark, a couple of reinstalls (+ general use), that might very well account for the large amount af data written reported in Samsung Magician, to me at least, it seems like a very likely reason, and I don't see a reasonb to be concerned
 
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its more than a gig per day. i will report tomorrow. temp folders are all moved to other disk drives. and finally i did i guess quick format via windows gui during set up.
 
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I have a 970 Evo 500GB which has been installed in my computer for 660 days, roughly, and I use it as drive C: with my Windows installation. I have disabled indexing, but otherwise I haven't moved any kind of cache or page file to a secondary drive.

It now has 21.4 TB data written, which would be roughly 33 GB pr day, if I calculate correctly (1 Gig = 1024 MB). This includes several complete reinstalls, a large amount of drive benchmarks and what not, and Samsung Magician still reports the drive as being at full health and it is still performing as advertised by Samsung.

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I honestly don't believe you have any reason to be worried by the numbers you are seeing, they don't seem alarming to me.


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I also have a second 1 TB Samsung 970 EVo used for games only. It is the same age as my system ddrive, and it has 11 TB written, which is 17 GB per day, and the smart data still says full health.
 
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At the moment office kaspersky and internet download manager.... and at the moment I use it for browsing until I find out why it writes so much data for no reason. I compare it to my old Samsung which has 29,7 TB written and it is stuck there with much more data written like games etc. The old one has a copy of windows too. I kept it in case there was something wrong with ego plus. The old one is installed since 2014
 
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1GB per day is "not much".
At all.

My current C drive is a 500GB 850 EVO.
39601 power on hours, 1650 days, 4.5 years, running 24/7.

Samsung Magician is reporting 59.9TBW written.
100% health.

Many times more than your "1GB per day"


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for no reason
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Kaspersky updates, office autosaves, etc, etc.
I have no idea what your IDM may be writing (I see absolutely zero need to use one), but that probably writes some too.

But that amount of writes is trivial. Nothing to worry about.
Now...if it were approaching 100 times that amount....then there is cause for alarm.
 
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366GB today from 354GB so that is 12GB per day. PC was closed from 10.00pm yesterday to 14.00 pm today
this is ridiculous
only browsing... nothing else. for some reason it writes or detects wrong the TB written. i think there could be a conflict with pci express card adaptor...
 
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fdlap said:
366GB today from 354GB so that is 12GB per day. PC was closed from 10.00pm yesterday to 14.00 pm today
this is ridiculous
only browsing... nothing else. for some reason it writes or detects wrong the TB written. i think there could be a conflict with pci express card adaptor...
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My C drive, 500GB 850 EVO:
Yesterday, 59.9TB
Today, 60.0TB

0.1TB = 100GB.

So, starting today, I will try to keep a log of 'daily' numbers.
Both in Magician and CrystalDiskInfo.

What version of Magician are you using?
I'm on v 6.0.0.

And it may well be the PCIe adapter.
 
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no its more than a week already. if you check above i have for 2 days 11-12GB/day (with minimal use) like browsing and TV player (not streaming), via usb. Even now as we talking it has gone up to 396GB written. i think generally every hour maybe 1GB write and most of the time i watch TV via usb card.... Could it be the writing cache? if i disabled it though it says it could impact speed.

Theese 42 hours included as i said above 2 formats. My ssd is only 40GB filled (including windows).... So nothing actually :)
 
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fdlap said:
no its more than a week already. if you check above i have for 2 days 11-12GB/day (with minimal use) like browsing and TV player (not streaming), via usb. Even now as we talking it has gone up to 396GB written. i think generally every hour maybe 1GB write and most of the time i watch TV via usb card.... Could it be the writing cache? if i disabled it though it says it could impact speed.

Theese 42 hours included as i said above 2 formats. My ssd is only 40GB filled (including windows).... So nothing actually :)
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Formatted twice?
Installed Windows?

That's probably 25% of that total writes right there.

Check it again in a week.
And then a week after that.


fdlap said:
like browsing and TV player
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Yes, that writes to the cache!
And yes, disabling it will impact performance.
 
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Sorry to necro this thread, but i've got the same issue. I installed a brand new 970 Evo Plus 1TB yesterday and installed Windows 10 off a USB drive, then downloaded some programs from my Mega account. Last night I checked Harddisk Sentinel and it was at 70GB written. I'm assuming Windows accounts for most of that, but hey ho.

I just installed Samsung Magician software and that showed 91GB written. I then ran one of the performance benchmark within Magician, and immediately after the 2-3 min test run it's jumped to 216GB.... errm, how? According to the benchmark it runs 1GB x 6.... how has it managed to write over 100GB? Something is seriously wrong with the drive itself.

I don't game either, no games installed on my machine.

System btw - Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro XI, Ryzen 3700x, Patriot Viper Steel 32GB 3600MHz.
 
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Karnivore said:
Sorry to necro this thread, but i've got the same issue. I installed a brand new 970 Evo Plus 1TB yesterday and installed Windows 10 off a USB drive, then downloaded some programs from my Mega account. Last night I checked Harddisk Sentinel and it was at 70GB written. I'm assuming Windows accounts for most of that, but hey ho.

I just installed Samsung Magician software and that showed 91GB written. I then ran one of the performance benchmark within Magician, and immediately after the 2-3 min test run it's jumped to 216GB.... errm, how? According to the benchmark it runs 1GB x 6.... how has it managed to write over 100GB? Something is seriously wrong with the drive itself.

I don't game either, no games installed on my machine.
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Installed Magician. And possibly that wrote a new Restore Point.
And then the performance test.

100GB is approx 0.002% of the warranty lifespan (600TBW) of that drive.
You reduced the lifespan a couple of hours.
 
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USAFRet said:
Installed Magician. And possibly that wrote a new Restore Point.
And then the performance test.

100GB is approx 0.002% of the warranty lifespan (600TBW) of that drive.
You reduced the lifespan a couple of hours.
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That should not be tacking on another 100GB+ though! I'm not too concerned about the value right now, that's irrelevant, i've never had an SSD write 200+ GB in the space of 5 hours (give or take) being switched on. It's now at 250GB. I'll monitor it, but this appears to be a widespread issue, it most certainly isn't reporting the correct result.
 
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