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I believe he was driving the Intel bus when they bought Altera, and then had the outrageous idea to have annual licensing to use the pre-canned programming images for the FPGAs. That caused Xilinx stock to go up! D'oh!
 
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Krzanich is probably not the best hire, but the guy from Apple can cram it. His company is the world's largest user of full blown human sl@ve labor, and his company's success (and indirectly, his own) is almost entirely due to that. Keep it to yourself homie.
Apple sure are Greedy bastards, but you have to admit, now that Intel is also on the same TSMC process, they now have the better engineers. Krzanich really screwed up by cutting R&D to do stock buybacks and was the leader of the 4-core AND 14++++++++++++nm stagnation generations.
 

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$52B to $70B over five years? Sounds great on paper but without context, it's nothing. Much of that is just riding the natural growth in technology over those years, along with AMD happening to unfortunately fail pretty hard on Bulldozer.

Anyone remember how little performance was gained from a Core i5-2500K to a -7500K? And Kaby Lake started the refreshes as it was basically a Skylake Refresh, so Kaby Lake Refresh was a Skylake Refresh Refresh. "8th gen" could be a Kaby Lake-R or a Whiskey Lake CPU depending on the model, e.g. i5-8250U was KBR while i5-8265U was WL. Yes, that all revolved around Intel 10nm (now Intel 7) taking several extra years to materialize.

Slight tangent: I don't know if Intel realizes this but the danger of letting go of that much talent means that many of those folks will go to the competitors, especially AMD.

Very funny though to hear an Apple employee go that berserk. Too bad he doesn't given enough f's about a healthy, competitive PC ecosystem.
 
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it is perhaps ironic that Intel didn't fire Krzanich due to his management performance. Instead, he was allowed to resign after a workplace relationship was uncovered—a violation of company policy.
That's how it always is, at the executive level. You don't get fired unless you do something criminal. Otherwise, you're always allowed to resign. Worse yet, the announcement usually includes some amount of praise.
 

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Krzanich is probably not the best hire, but the guy from Apple can cram it. His company is the world's largest user of full blown human sl@ve labor, and his company's success (and indirectly, his own) is almost entirely due to that. Keep it to yourself homie.
It's not his company, he's just a lowly engineer that got laid off from Intel when they did stock buy backs.
He wouldn't even be working at Apple had Intel not fired him. It is highly unlikely he has any control over which factories get the contracts.

Tim Cook is the actual guy in charge of Apple, easy mistake, I know.
 
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People love demonizing Krzanich when a lot of the problems that happened were inherited from Otellini. Don't get me wrong he had chances to right the ship and made a ton of mistakes, largest of which was likely not buying EUV machines, but it was the path the board had already chosen to go. What's happening at Intel today is far more an indictment of appeasing the investor class by putting finance people in charge. We're seeing the same thing across many industries where layoffs are happening due to fundamental lack of understanding how business itself can function in a healthy manner.
 
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Krzanich is probably not the best hire, but the guy from Apple can cram it. His company is the world's largest user of full blown human sl@ve labor, and his company's success (and indirectly, his own) is almost entirely due to that. Keep it to yourself homie.
There’s something super grim about reducing accusations of slave labour to whataboutism for internet points 🤢
If this was truly a concern for you, you would boycott all electronics. Everything from mining to manufacturing to e-waste comes at a significant cost to people and the environment…
 

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Krzanich is probably not the best hire, but the guy from Apple can cram it. His company is the world's largest user of full blown human sl@ve labor, and his company's success (and indirectly, his own) is almost entirely due to that. Keep it to yourself homie.
Lol show me any company worth over $1mil that doesn't do this and I'll give you a cookie.
 

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There’s something super grim about reducing accusations of slave labour to whataboutism for internet points 🤢
Agreed.

If this was truly a concern for you, you would boycott all electronics. Everything from mining to manufacturing to e-waste comes at a significant cost to people and the environment…
That's obviously not feasible. If there were campaigns to name, shame, and regulate the worst offenders, that would definitely raise the floor on industry.

And I wouldn't be too cynical about the effectiveness of such measures, since that's probably how we got the RoHS legislation and regulations against using "blood minerals".

Lol show me any company worth over $1mil that doesn't do this and I'll give you a cookie.
Not all companies are equally bad. Such a cynical attitude as yours just lets them get away with murder.

That said, I'm curious just how true the allegation is of Apple. Do they have any production or source any components from Xin Jiang or other problematic regions of the world? I think labor conditions in Shenzhen are a lot better than they used to be, so I don't consider production there to be equivalent to slave labor.
 

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Anyone remember how little performance was gained from a Core i5-2500K to a -7500K? And Kaby Lake started the refreshes as it was basically a Skylake Refresh, so Kaby Lake Refresh was a Skylake Refresh Refresh. "8th gen" could be a Kaby Lake-R or a Whiskey Lake CPU depending on the model, e.g. i5-8250U was KBR while i5-8265U was WL. Yes, that all revolved around Intel 10nm (now Intel 7) taking several extra years to materialize.
I actually am "benefiting" from that, I had an i7 2600k able to survive 1080p gaming until FS2020, and that was like a full 10 year gaming cycle. that's a lot of money saved on my side for entertainment..
 

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This Johnatan Huang guy said out loud what everybody think and he is 100 percent right. This CEO is a scam, and he betrayed at the same time his staff and his customers.

A l**ser like that doesn’t deserve a CEO position. Unless they plan to go hell and go bankrupt on purpose.
 

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I believe he was driving the Intel bus when they bought Altera, and then had the outrageous idea to have annual licensing to use the pre-canned programming images for the FPGAs. That caused Xilinx stock to go up! D'oh!
Your opinion is automatically invalid because of that Cow College you’re representing. RTR. No seriously though, it’s cool to see other people that graduated in the area on here.
 
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People love demonizing Krzanich when a lot of the problems that happened were inherited from Otellini. Don't get me wrong he had chances to right the ship and made a ton of mistakes, largest of which was likely not buying EUV machines, but it was the path the board had already chosen to go. What's happening at Intel today is far more an indictment of appeasing the investor class by putting finance people in charge. We're seeing the same thing across many industries where layoffs are happening due to fundamental lack of understanding how business itself can function in a healthy manner.
This. He had less influence on Intel's direction than a fart in a can would have. Maybe the fart would have had more.

The only reason you can make fun or just overall dislike the guy is due to the stupid reason he decided to bail Intel with. Like... My dude Mr K... Sacrificing your marriage over business is ok for you? Dang, that's all I need to know about your moral compass.

Regards.
 

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So, bK's tenure was 2013-2018...wasn't that the time when Intel went to sleep and stopped innovating and developing? With IPC improvements gen over gen in the low single digit range? And sticking to 2-4 core CPUs while keeping prices high?

Yeah, 2013-2018 was exactly the time when the foundation of Intel's massive struggles of today had been laid.
 
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People love demonizing Krzanich when a lot of the problems that happened were inherited from Otellini. Don't get me wrong he had chances to right the ship and made a ton of mistakes, largest of which was likely not buying EUV machines, but it was the path the board had already chosen to go. What's happening at Intel today is far more an indictment of appeasing the investor class by putting finance people in charge. We're seeing the same thing across many industries where layoffs are happening due to fundamental lack of understanding how business itself can function in a healthy manner.
You could not be more wrong. BK was the supposed manufacturing and process expert, and on his watch, he let the manufacturing and processes stagnant. Instead he focused on drones and wearables and silly toys like charging bowls. And all that pales in comparison to his legacy "America's Greatest Makers" - an absolute joke from beginning to end. He paid Mark Burnett north of $50M to create the dumbest TV show of all time and put the world's most awkward dork - Brian Krzanich - as one of the judges. Otellini didn't lose process leadership. Otellini didn't bungle manufacturing. That was all under BKs watch before he became CEO and it was under his watch after becoming CEO and he fumbled it all.

Add in banging, and marrying one of his employees. Add in having an affair with his TA and then giving her a VP title 3 years out of college. Add in the most egregious insider trading I've ever seen as he sold literally every single share of stock he was allowed to right before announcing the Spectre bug.

And, if we're talking about appeasing the investor class, that was all Bob Swan with his nonstop stock buybacks. Otellini didn't have phone processors for Apple, was committed to Atom, and it would have taken years to do anything with the ARM license. But it was BK that allowed process and manufacturing to die on that vine.
 

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All Intel CEOs since Andy Grove were failures. One has to blame the Intel board for hiring Krazinich after so many leaders quit Intel at that time. Was that Otellini's fault.

Anyway not sure what impressed this company that they hired Krazinich as CEO. its flabbergasting for sure. His conduct as Intel CEO was bad and so he had to abruptly leave as well.