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Something new (and bad) is happening when I play Morrowind. I am
playing along then I get the Blue Screen of Death with this message:

An Exception OE has occurred at 0028: FF09B420 in VxD. This was
called from 0028: C00B2ADC in VxD. It may be possible to continue
normally. Press any key to continue. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL will
restart your computer and you will lose any data in running programs.

Pressing any key does nothing at all. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL returns
me to Morrowind which promptly freezes, even the music, which I
haven't had happen before. I first had this happen shortly after I
noticed that my battery was very low and blamed it on that. I got a
brand new battery and installed it today, but I still get the same
exception.

Does anybody have any idea what is going on? I have been playing
Morrowind for over a year without this happening. I haven't changed
anything about my system, but change from Norton Internet Security
2002 to Norton Internet Security 2005 and get a new printer.
--
Nyctolops
 
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"Nyctolops" <nyctolops@vla.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:gktn115bd24uml1pnldtkvh11s266lr2a7@4ax.com...
> Something new (and bad) is happening when I play Morrowind. I am
> playing along then I get the Blue Screen of Death with this message:
>
> An Exception OE has occurred at 0028: FF09B420 in VxD. This was
> called from 0028: C00B2ADC in VxD. It may be possible to continue
> normally. Press any key to continue. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL will
> restart your computer and you will lose any data in running programs.
>
> Pressing any key does nothing at all. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL returns
> me to Morrowind which promptly freezes, even the music, which I
> haven't had happen before. I first had this happen shortly after I
> noticed that my battery was very low and blamed it on that. I got a
> brand new battery and installed it today, but I still get the same
> exception.
>
> Does anybody have any idea what is going on? I have been playing
> Morrowind for over a year without this happening. I haven't changed
> anything about my system, but change from Norton Internet Security
> 2002 to Norton Internet Security 2005 and get a new printer.
> --
> Nyctolops

Changing Norton is a change to your system. If everything worked fine
before the Norton upgrade, and then the game goes crash-boom after the
Norton, then I would start there. I doubt the printer did it, because that's
off in it's own little corner, but Norton on the other hand is known for
getting into all kinds of things. Sorry I can't be of more help, but that's
where I would start.

Starwolf
 
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:40:59 -0500, "Starwolf" <starwolf13@wowway.com>
wrote:

>Changing Norton is a change to your system. If everything worked fine
>before the Norton upgrade, and then the game goes crash-boom after the
>Norton, then I would start there. I doubt the printer did it, because that's
>off in it's own little corner, but Norton on the other hand is known for
>getting into all kinds of things. Sorry I can't be of more help, but that's
>where I would start.

How do I start? What do I look for and where do I look? I don't know
much about this sort of thing at all. I always unplug my modem and
disable Norton before starting to play.
--
Nyctolops
 
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"Nyctolops" <nyctolops@vla.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:531o11ldh80c0lq27km26ct3a6bml8v3nl@4ax.com...

> How do I start? What do I look for and where do I look? I don't know
> much about this sort of thing at all. I always unplug my modem and
> disable Norton before starting to play.

If you're on Windows XP, you could revert back to a previous system save
point (before installing Norton) and then go forward from there.
(Start->All Programs->Accessories->System Tools->System Restore).
 
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:56:29 -0500, "Sarah"
<scrubbrush@DELrogers.comDEL> wrote:

>If you're on Windows XP, you could revert back to a previous system save
>point (before installing Norton) and then go forward from there.
>(Start->All Programs->Accessories->System Tools->System Restore).
>
Unfortunately, I am still using Windows 98SE. However, other problems
have cropped up which seem to indicate that something is seriously
wrong somewhere in the system. Boot up hangs sometimes and nothing I
do short of a restart will do anything. I am also getting overheating
warnings. I think the CPU needs to go into the shop to see if some of
the hardware is failing. Thanks for the advice, though.
--
Nyctolops
 
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Nyctolops wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:56:29 -0500, "Sarah"
> <scrubbrush@DELrogers.comDEL> wrote:
>
>> If you're on Windows XP, you could revert back to a previous system
>> save point (before installing Norton) and then go forward from there.
>> (Start->All Programs->Accessories->System Tools->System Restore).
>>
> Unfortunately, I am still using Windows 98SE. However, other problems
> have cropped up which seem to indicate that something is seriously
> wrong somewhere in the system. Boot up hangs sometimes and nothing I
> do short of a restart will do anything. I am also getting overheating
> warnings. I think the CPU needs to go into the shop to see if some of
> the hardware is failing. Thanks for the advice, though.

I take it you've looked inside the case. My PC began to overheat but it was
just the heatsink clogged with gunk.
 
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:04:49 -0000, "Angof"
<oan1vgofut@btinternet.com> wrote:

>I take it you've looked inside the case. My PC began to overheat but it was
>just the heatsink clogged with gunk.
>
Yes, I had the case open to change the battery and cleaned up whatever
I found. Maybe I should open it again and look harder for gunk.
Anyway there is something else going on with the not-booting issue.
It *can't* be overheating before it even boots, can it?
--
Nyctolops
 
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Nyctolops wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:04:49 -0000, "Angof"
> <oan1vgofut@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I take it you've looked inside the case. My PC began to overheat but it was
>>just the heatsink clogged with gunk.
>>
>
> Yes, I had the case open to change the battery and cleaned up whatever
> I found. Maybe I should open it again and look harder for gunk.
> Anyway there is something else going on with the not-booting issue.
> It *can't* be overheating before it even boots, can it?
> --
> Nyctolops

Yes, it can be overheating before it boots if the CPU fan is not working.
 
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"Michael W. Ryder" <mwryder@_worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Nyctolops wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:04:49 -0000, "Angof"
>> <oan1vgofut@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I take it you've looked inside the case. My PC began to overheat but it was
>>>just the heatsink clogged with gunk.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I had the case open to change the battery and cleaned up whatever
>> I found. Maybe I should open it again and look harder for gunk.
>> Anyway there is something else going on with the not-booting issue.
>> It *can't* be overheating before it even boots, can it?
>> --
>> Nyctolops
>
>Yes, it can be overheating before it boots if the CPU fan is not working.


If it's not a bad fan, then it sounds like it could be an overloaded or
failing power supply.
 
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:57:28 GMT, "😛hant" <phant@usagi.comix> wrote:

>"Michael W. Ryder" <mwryder@_worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Yes, it can be overheating before it boots if the CPU fan is not working.
>
>
>If it's not a bad fan, then it sounds like it could be an overloaded or
>failing power supply.
>
Thanks. I'll get these looked into as soon as possible.
--
Nyctolops
 
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"Starwolf" <starwolf13@wowway.com> wrote in
news:OdWdnazYJPTZZobfRVn-oA@wideopenwest.com:

> Changing Norton is a change to your system. If everything worked fine
> before the Norton upgrade, and then the game goes crash-boom after the
> Norton, then I would start there. I doubt the printer did it, because
> that's off in it's own little corner,

Don't make too many assumptions on that point; I recently picked up a HP
printer with a nice media-card reader built in to it, and it caused some
very strange things in my system, including displacing drive letters to
accomodate the cardreader and somehow - I still haven't figured out how -
making my system (an Athlon 2200+XP with a Gb of RAM, a Radeon 9800-256,
and 160Gb of hard drive space) completely refuse to run Star Wars Knights
Of The Old Republic. I have NO idea why a printer would cause this to
happen, but it was the ONLY change I made between running fine and locking
up HARD (we're talking no keyboard response) whenever I try to run that
game...and in the 4 years now that I've been running XP and its various
betas and patches and service packs, the ONLY time I've had that kind of
crash is when one of my mobo capacitors was frying (which has actually
happened to me twice, but they all seem fine this time around).

That said, you're spot-on with the Norton thing, you have to be very
careful and aware when installing any kind of quality system tools,
firewalls, AV software, etc.

--
John Henry
"The Canadian people seem very friendly. I was happy to see them waving
with all five fingers." - George Bush tips his hand, 01Dec2004
www.lowgenius.com
 
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Nyctolops <nyctolops@vla.nospam.com> wrote in
news:5aht111aihm7vn0je83k2vm3a63mgh9tbu@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:57:28 GMT, "😛hant" <phant@usagi.comix> wrote:
>
>>"Michael W. Ryder" <mwryder@_worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, it can be overheating before it boots if the CPU fan is not
>>>working.
>>
>>
>>If it's not a bad fan, then it sounds like it could be an overloaded
>>or failing power supply.
>>
> Thanks. I'll get these looked into as soon as possible.

While you're in there, take a hard look at the capacitors on your
motherboard. Those are the little cylinder looking things. If the tops
any of them are bulging, cracked, or appear to have fluid stains on them,
you've probably fried one.

I'm not an electrical engineer, so I don't fully understand this issue, but
it basically comes down to one company who had a flawed design for a
capacitor which was then stolen in an industrial espionage incident and
propagated; since then (around 1999, 2000 I guess), I've toasted two
motherboards this way, and it seems to be a pretty common problem,
especially when the motherboard gets beyond a couple of years old (i.e. out
of warranty).

If you're not confident of your ability to spot a blown capacitor, at least
mention it to the techs you take the computer to - if THEY don't know what
a blown capacitor looks like and haven't at least heard of the information
I've given you, they are almost certainly not worth what you're paying
them.



--
John Henry
"The Canadian people seem very friendly. I was happy to see them waving
with all five fingers." - George Bush tips his hand, 01Dec2004
www.lowgenius.com
 
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