Discussion Expectations for Rocket Lake?

[Dj0gany]

Hi, as many of you might now, Intel 11th Gen Rocket Lake CPU's are coming March 15th.
I want to hear your expectations and will you consider purchasing it for a future build.
I am personally planning on buying it if i can afford the i5 11th Gen, but we shall see about that.
Appart from the IPC increase, do you see this series as intel's comeback against their battle vs Ryzen 5000 series?
I want to hear your thoughts.

 

[rgd1101]

While BIOS can improve "default" performance in some cases (i.e stability by correcting workload curve) or unlocks some feature, it can't turn CPU into different CPU. That is, to gain speed, some sacrifice is needed to be made and I can only see increased power draw/temperature here.

I must say, I expected better from 11700K.. but then, not really. Yes, there is about 19% IPC improvement (sort of) compared to 10000 series. But that wasn't enough to catch up with AMD 5000 CPU.
Well, everyone should buy what fits his needs and wallet.

here for AMD 5000 fixed the L3 cache issue AGESA 1.2.0.1 and see about 10% improvement

MSI Releases AMD AGESA 1.2.0.1 BETA BIOS Firmware For Its Entire X570, B550, A520 Motherboard Lineup - Enables Smart Access Memory on Ryzen 3000 CPUs, Fixes L3 Cache Issues on Ryzen 5000

MSI has officially announced the release of the AMD AGESA 1.2.0.1 BETA BIOS Firmware for its X570, B550, and A520 chipset based motherboards.

wccftech.com

 

[jeremyj_83]

here for AMD 5000 fixed the L3 cache issue AGESA 1.2.0.1 and see about 10% improvement

MSI Releases AMD AGESA 1.2.0.1 BETA BIOS Firmware For Its Entire X570, B550, A520 Motherboard Lineup - Enables Smart Access Memory on Ryzen 3000 CPUs, Fixes L3 Cache Issues on Ryzen 5000

MSI has officially announced the release of the AMD AGESA 1.2.0.1 BETA BIOS Firmware for its X570, B550, and A520 chipset based motherboards.

wccftech.com

It would be interesting to see that BIOS reviewed from a reputable review site. Also would be interesting to know if that is an issue with MSI boards alone or if it is something that has happened with other manufacturers as well.

 

[BogdanH]

here for AMD 5000 fixed the L3 cache issue AGESA 1.2.0.1 and see about 10% improvement

-should be "..AGESA 1.2.01 fixed the L3 cache issue introduced in AGESA 1.2.0.0".

..and see about 10% improvement

-means, now your CPU works at it has before AGESA 1.2.0.0 update.

I kinda doubt one can see 10% improvement outside AIDA64 (I mean, in real world software usage) -if I'm wrong on that, so be it.

 

[rgd1101]

I mean bios could fix(or cause) issue

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Giving the fix comes with an agesa (microcode) update, the fix should apply to any board that gets a bios update with the updated agesa, meaning this issue is unlikely to be MSI specific.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I think we all would prefer a bios update that adds performance rather than one that takes away performance with security vulnerability mitigations, which intel does a lot more frequently that AMD anymore.

 

[jeremyj_83]

-should be "..AGESA 1.2.01 fixed the L3 cache issue introduced in AGESA 1.2.0.0".

-means, now your CPU works at it has before AGESA 1.2.0.0 update.

I kinda doubt one can see 10% improvement outside AIDA64 (I mean, in real world software usage) -if I'm wrong on that, so be it.

So the beta BIOS brought performance back to where it was when the 5000 series launched.

 

[BogdanH]

So the beta BIOS brought performance back to where it was when the 5000 series launched.

No, it just means, L3 cache performance is back as it was before AGESA 1.2.0.0 BIOS update. Depending on motherboard model/brand, there have been several BIOS updates after motherboards release -that is, before AGESA 1.2.0.0 update.