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PC experts, which i'm not, I need an honest opinion on my prebuilt rig. Parts are so damn hard to find these days that a basic GTX 1660 is now going for around $500 on Amazon or Newegg. So I had to resort to a build and the best value I found is Alienware and because I have a $4K tab with them. So here is what I purchased today. PLEASE let me know if it's a bad build or if I should wait. I can always cancel the order.

Alienware Aurora R10:

Ryzen 5800X (I went with the 8 core only because of future proofing. I would like this build to last around 7 yrs.)
1TB SSD nvme
32GB Dual channel 3400Mhz
6800XT (I chose this ONLY because it's a 16GB card. Supposedly the RTX 3080 Ti could be 16 or 20GB but no one is sure if it will appear and at what cost). Ray tracing for me is not a big deal but FPS, is.
Wifi 6
1000W PSU with liquid cooling

Total cost minus tax was $2429.99. Delivery date should be Feb 24th.
 
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That's not a bad price, really, considering it comes with WIn10, etc..

(You'd have been at $1900 by my quick summary totaling of parts cost (or more!), and even then only if you got a 6800XT at retail cost)
Yeah that is what I figured but lets be real. Dell is probably making about $700-800 profit but here in lies the problem. The latest CPU's and GPU's are almost non-existent these days unless you live on the computer waiting for one to pop up on some retailers site. I saw some YT videos running Microsoft Flight Simulator with a 5800X and RX 6800 XT and it was running it in 4K hovering around 60FPS on Ultra Settings flying over NYC.

So all things considered NO, it's not really a bad deal at all. In fact looking at it from the half glass full, this Alienware is priced rather low for the specs. I tried customizing a iBuyPower and HP Omen and they don't come close to the Alienware in price.
 
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PC experts, which i'm not, I need an honest opinion on my prebuilt rig. Parts are so damn hard to find these days that a basic GTX 1660 is now going for around $500 on Amazon or Newegg. So I had to resort to a build and the best value I found is Alienware and because I have a $4K tab with them. So here is what I purchased today. PLEASE let me know if it's a bad build or if I should wait. I can always cancel the order.

Alienware Aurora R10:

Ryzen 5800X (I went with the 8 core only because of future proofing. I would like this build to last around 7 yrs.)
1TB SSD nvme
32GB Dual channel 3400Mhz
6800XT (I chose this ONLY because it's a 16GB card. Supposedly the RTX 3080 Ti could be 16 or 20GB but no one is sure if it will appear and at what cost). Ray tracing for me is not a big deal but FPS, is.
Wifi 6
1000W PSU with liquid cooling

Total cost minus tax was $2429.99. Delivery date should be Feb 24th.
This is a good pc. But for gaming 16 gb is enough but no problem, 32 gb is not that much overkill , you have a great pc but can you tell me which mobo that prebuilt has?
 

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PC experts, which i'm not, I need an honest opinion on my prebuilt rig. Parts are so damn hard to find these days that a basic GTX 1660 is now going for around $500 on Amazon or Newegg. So I had to resort to a build and the best value I found is Alienware and because I have a $4K tab with them. So here is what I purchased today. PLEASE let me know if it's a bad build or if I should wait. I can always cancel the order.

Alienware Aurora R10:

Ryzen 5800X (I went with the 8 core only because of future proofing. I would like this build to last around 7 yrs.)
1TB SSD nvme
32GB Dual channel 3400Mhz
6800XT (I chose this ONLY because it's a 16GB card. Supposedly the RTX 3080 Ti could be 16 or 20GB but no one is sure if it will appear and at what cost). Ray tracing for me is not a big deal but FPS, is.
Wifi 6
1000W PSU with liquid cooling

Total cost minus tax was $2429.99. Delivery date should be Feb 24th.
I got a better today as Alienware discounted my PC by 10%, so I got the same build for around $2295 plus tax.
I'm confident that that 1000Watt PSU with liquid cooling would serve you well... a great PSU helps a pc along many miles...
 

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This is a good pc. But for gaming 16 gb is enough but no problem, 32 gb is not that much overkill , you have a great pc but can you tell me which mobo that prebuilt has?
I shall once I receive it. From the pictures I see on their website it has the Alienware logo so it might not have the real mfg's brand label on it. Do the AMD 5000 series CPU's require a Bxx style mobo? I've read something in the past that suggest these CPU's require a certain series mobo. Maybe I read wrong.

Wrt 16GB of memory you are correct however Microsoft Flight Simulator according to Microsoft can use up to 32GB if you want to run it in 4K with the settings dialed up. This rig is primarily just for MS Flight Simulator. The game is not really optimized although that will change in the future when Microsoft releases it for the XBOX Series X as they plan on applying their optimization techniques to the PC version.
 
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Do the AMD 5000 series CPU's require a Bxx style mobo? I've read something in the past that suggest these CPU's require a certain series mobo. Maybe I read wrong.
Nahh. 5000 series will work with 500 series motherboard once you update mobo bios but because you are paying a heavy price make sure it has a good b550 or x570 mobo.
Edit: Sorry i replied late, i was a little busy.
 

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PC experts, which i'm not, I need an honest opinion on my prebuilt rig. Parts are so damn hard to find these days that a basic GTX 1660 is now going for around $500 on Amazon or Newegg. So I had to resort to a build and the best value I found is Alienware and because I have a $4K tab with them. So here is what I purchased today. PLEASE let me know if it's a bad build or if I should wait. I can always cancel the order.

Alienware Aurora R10:

Ryzen 5800X (I went with the 8 core only because of future proofing. I would like this build to last around 7 yrs.)
1TB SSD nvme
32GB Dual channel 3400Mhz
6800XT (I chose this ONLY because it's a 16GB card. Supposedly the RTX 3080 Ti could be 16 or 20GB but no one is sure if it will appear and at what cost). Ray tracing for me is not a big deal but FPS, is.
Wifi 6
1000W PSU with liquid cooling

Total cost minus tax was $2429.99. Delivery date should be Feb 24th.
7 years is not really realistic, the processor should last that long but expect to need a video card upgrade in about the middle of that time.
 
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How can i put a logo like you. Pls tell 😅😅😅😅I am new to tomshardware so i dont know much about it (but i am in pc community for more than 10 years)
 

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Nahh. 5000 series will work with 500 series motherboard once you update mobo bios but because you are paying a heavy price make sure it has a good b550 or x570 mobo.
Edit: Sorry i replied late, i was a little busy.
How can I get that info before the system arrives? I believe Dell now charges a mandatory 15% restocking fee if you return the PC.
 

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but expect to need a video card upgrade in about the middle of that time.
Not necessarily - I just recently sold my 1070 Ti FE that I had bought in early 2018 (3 years later) for more money I paid for it new. I know this is due to a wonky time and circumstances we are living in. I also decided on a 6800 XT - this GPU is amazing. The upgrade decision was not due to a dissatisfaction with performance - it just made financial sense.
 
1TB SSD nvme - What model?
32GB Dual channel 3400Mhz - What brand and model? Cas Latency?
1000W PSU with liquid cooling - What brand and model for both?

Pre-built....with their specs and no branding. Makes me nervous. They could have added the cheapest part in that system to make more profit. That SSD better be a good SSD model and that RAM is 3400MHz CAS18 when 3600MHz RAM CAS16 is exactly the same price and sometime cheaper. That PSU? 1000 watts doesn't say much except the wattage.

It's really important to know what brand and model parts you buy.

Do you have the entire parts list from that Alienware PC?
 
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Contact them by email or anything. Ask them which motherboard they are using in that prebuilt.
Great idea! Thanks

1TB SSD nvme - What model?
32GB Dual channel 3400Mhz - What brand and model? Cas Latency?
1000W PSU with liquid cooling - What brand and model for both?

Pre-built....with their specs and no branding. Makes me nervous. They could have added the cheapest part in that system to make more profit. That SSD better be a good SSD model and that RAM is 3400MHz CAS18 when 3600MHz RAM CAS16 is exactly the same price and sometime cheaper. That PSU? 1000 watts doesn't say much except the wattage.

It's really important to know what brand and model parts you buy.

Do you have the entire parts list from that Alienware PC?
Thanks, those are great questions. The RAM is HyperX Fury as they advertise that memory, I don't know the CAS Latency but I will ask them. I went ahead and cancelled my order because I thought the dark case had RGB lights throughout. I come to find out that it's only the two tone white and black case that has that feature. So I will wait for the next 10% off promo and in the mean time I am going to ask them the brands of parts they use.
 

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Do you have the entire parts list from that Alienware PC?
Alienware Aurora R10 210-AYMB

1 Onsite/In-Home Service After Remote Diagnosis,
1 Year 801-1540 1 32GB Dual Channel HyperX(TM) FURY DDR4 XMP at 3400MHz; up to 128GB (additional memory sold separately)
370-AGKJ 1 Shipping Material + Placemat 340-CVFL 1 Killer(TM)
Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 (2x2) 802.11ax Wireless LAN and Bluetooth 5.1 555-BFMU 1
Dark Side of the Moon chassis with High-Performance CPU Liquid Cooling and 1000W Power Supply 321-BGLI
1 AMD RX 6800 XT16GB GDDR6 490-BGMF 1
AMD Ryzen(TM) 7 5800X (8-Core, 36MB Total Cache, Max Boost Clock of 4.7GHz)

338-BYVP 1 Dell Limited Hardware Warranty Initial Year 801-1493 1 Dell.com Order 332-1530
1 US Power Cord 450-AAGO 1 None Required 817-BBBP
1 No Microsoft Office License Included – 30 day Trial Offer Only 658-BCSB
1 Additional Software 658-BCUO
1 AMD Ryzen(TM) 7 Label 389-DYKW
1 Custom Configuration 817-BBBB 1 SERI Guide (ENG/FR/Multi) 340-AGIK
1 Wireless Driver for Killer 1650 Card 555-BFMZ
1 Alienware Mouse Is Not Included 570-AACN
1 Keyboard Not Included 580-ABUI
1 Other Order Details Sales Representative SRUSER USGENERIC
1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD 400-BHPV
 
The RAM - There is no HyperX Fury Kit at 3400MHz. Doesn't exist. It's 3200, 3466MHz. So they made a mistake?

https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/memory/fury-ddr4

The power supply brand and model is not listed. To me that's a red flag. Could be a time bomb low quality PSU.

That RX6800XT. No brand and model at all? Just 6800XT. So it could be any model.

That case looks like a nightmare to open and replace something - https://www.dell.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/28605i49D32F17D9F40449/image-size/large?v=1.0&px=999
 

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The RAM - There is no HyperX Fury Kit at 3400MHz. Doesn't exist. It's 3200, 3466MHz. So they made a mistake?

https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/memory/fury-ddr4

The power supply brand and model is not listed. To me that's a red flag. Could be a time bomb low quality PSU.

That RX6800XT. No brand and model at all? Just 6800XT. So it could be any model.

That case looks like a nightmare to open and replace something - https://www.dell.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/28605i49D32F17D9F40449/image-size/large?v=1.0&px=999
Point well taken !

Regarding the RAM, if you go to the Alienware site I think those are based on XMP so they could be overclocked RAM, so thanks for mentioning the RAM speeds. The case though is pretty slick and from the Alienware video on the same website it's pretty easy to work on. It's a tool-less design and the PSU is on a swing-out arm and it allows you free access to the mobo etc. I am under no illusion that Dell is using quality parts. That's where a custom build comes in but only IF those critical parts are available, which they are not. I see this as a bounty for system builders.

Alienware Aurora Gaming Desktop with AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors | Dell USA

I also realize there are really good quality custom builders out there such as Falcon NW-PC's, iBuyPower, CyberPC. Those will let you customize your build down to parts. However it will cost 1.5x more than a comparable Alienware. I went to iBuyPower and tried to spec out a similar Alienware build and I was easily in the $3299 range.

The one prebuilt PC that intrigues me is the MSI Trident X. It's a slim Tower that can handle a RTX 3080 but it's $2800.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1610594-REG/msi_meg_trident_x_10te_1467us_i9_10900k_rtx_3080_32gb.html
 

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The more I read about Alienware the more I decided to stay away. They use proprietary PSU's. However I went to CyberPower PC and spec'd out a similar system for $2447. Here are the specs, let me know what you guys/gals think:

Customize Creator PC Ultimate Gaming PC (cyberpowerpc.com)

Btw, there's a P version of the ASUS Prime Z-490 mobo but I can't tell what the difference is so I went with the "V" version ?
  • *BASE_PRICE: [+2419]
  • CABLE: None
  • CAS: Syber CUBE Series ATX Full-Tower Dual Chamber Gaming Case w/ Front, Side & Top Full Side Tempered + 5x ARGB Fans Included
  • CC: None
  • COOLANT: None
  • CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i9-10850K 10/20 3.60GHz [Turbo 5.1GHz] 20MB Cache LGA1200 [-94]
  • CS_FAN: Default case fans
  • ENGRAVING: None
  • FAN: CyberPowerPC MasterLiquid Lite 120mm ARGB CPU Liquid Cooler with Dual Chamber Pump & Copper Cold Plate
  • FREEBIE_CU: Marvel Avengers Game [+0]
  • HDD: 1TB WD Blue SN550 Series PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 2400/1950 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 410/405k (Single Drive)
  • HDD2: 3TB (3TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 5400RPM HDD (Single Drive)
  • HEADSET: None
  • IUSB: Built-in USB Ports (Based on motherboard and case selection)
  • KEYBOARD: None [-5]
  • MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory (Crucial Ballistix Sport)
  • MICROPHONE: None
  • MONITOR: None
  • MOPAD: None
  • MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME Z490-V ATX, ARGB, 1GbE LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 4 SATA3, 2x M.2 SATA/PCIe + WiFi 6 Intel 201AX [+17]
  • MOUSE: None [-3]
  • NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
  • OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
  • OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
  • POWERSUPPLY: 850 Watts - Corsair RMx Series RM850x 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+31]
  • PRO_WIRING: None
  • RUSH: Extra 2 week lead times for selected video cards, Eligible for 5% Instant Rebate when enter “NORUSH” During Checkout. [+0]
  • SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
  • SLI_BRIDGE: None
  • SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
  • SPEAKERS: None
  • TUNING: None
  • USBHD: None
  • VIDEO: [Extra 2 Weeks Lead Time] AMD Radeon™ RX 6800 XT 16GB GDDR6 Video Card [+82] (Single Card)
  • WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
  • WNC: None
  • WTV: None
  • _PRICE: (+2447)
 

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Very few people here would recommend a CyberPowerPC.

Abysmal warranty. Their warranty is 1 year. Even thought the individual parts may have 2-3-5 year warranties, you only get 1 year.
Slipshod assembly.
Funny you should say that because after I posted my specs for the CyberPowerPC, I read some reviews and every one of them was 1 star. So I deleted the configuration from my cart. No thanks don't want to take a chance with them.
 

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Hey guys, I found this sweet deal on Amazon. Amazon is selling it for $2,199.99 and it looks to be a standard full tower case. The bad news it's backordered till Feb 12th with an estimated arrival date of April 11-14th. It should arrive sooner.

Specs are really nice for the price:
Intel i9-10850K
32GB of RAM
RTX 3080
1TB SSD Nvme operating system
2TB HDD second drive
Corsair 750W PSU

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KHD3Q5Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 

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