Extreme FPS dips

[Vincent04]

Guys, for my specs, please refer to my sig (it's up-to-date).

Now for the concern, I have my rig built for more than just 3 mos. now and still can't get the performance I've expected to get out of it.

I'm severely experiencing FPS drops from 56-60(vsync on) and dropping as low as 0-1 FPS on CoD Advanced Warfare (its the game with the worst fps drops, other games I'm playing Shadow of Mordor, BF4 etc. are experiencing FPS dips, but not as worse.)

Settings are optimized via GeForce experience with a little settings of my own (didn't use DSR, just 1920x1080p on the reso) and of course, sun and shadow cache spots (can't remember the actual wording on that settings) are both turned off, because as per a thread I read, maybe here or elsewhere, that setting needs 8gb's of VRAM, but whatever, I have it turned off.

Now, what seems to be the problem that's causing me to experience FPS dips?

Thanks in advance,

 

[oskerw]

If you don't get more than 60 fps with vsync off, then leave it off.

 

[Vincent04]

Lol, reason why I turned it on is Im getting as much as 110FPS. But I don't profit from it since my monitor only has 60hz refresh rate. But still with it off, I'm still experiencing FPS dips.

 

[damric]

Your CPU is just choking on the game engines. It's very common.

 

[bystander]

I'd check to make sure your CPU or GPU isn't overheating. That type of FPS drop is not normal. Drops to 30 is normal, drops to sub 20 is not. Check to make sure you don't have a virus scanner running, or automated backup program too.

I'd guess your CPU isn't properly cooled. MSI afterburner can now be used to monitor CPU core temperatures. I'd start there.

 

[Vincent04]

I'd check to make sure your CPU or GPU isn't overheating. That type of FPS drop is not normal. Drops to 30 is normal, drops to sub 20 is not. Check to make sure you don't have a virus scanner running, or automated backup program too.

I'd guess your CPU isn't properly cooled. MSI afterburner can now be used to monitor CPU core temperatures. I'd start there.

I'm pretty much aware of my temps. As I always use OSDs when I play games. OSDs I use is from MSI Afterburner with Rivatuner to monitor CPU readings as well. Readings are normal.

GPU - 60-70c usually stays at 61c
CPU - 55-62c mostly at 59-60c

Regarding proper cooling, I guess a stock clocked procie won't need an aftermarket cooler, eh?

Your CPU is just choking on the game engines. It's very common.

Suggesting an overclock, eh?

 

[bystander]

I guaranty that overclocking is not the solution. If your FPS are dropping to 1, increasing your CPU's speed by 20% is only enough to get your FPS to 2 FPS at best. There is something else going on.

Check your GPU and CPU usage while gaming, to see what is being held back, and what is over working.

 

[Vincent04]

Your CPU is just choking on the game engines. It's very common.

I guess an overclock is indeed needed. Because to begin with, I've seen quite a few blogs/threads here or at OC.net that an 8320 would bottleneck a 970. I have my h100i purchased. I guess it's time to do a bit of overclocking.

 

[Vincent04]

I guaranty that overclocking is not the solution. If your FPS are dropping to 1, increasing your CPU's speed by 20% is only enough to get your FPS to 2 FPS at best. There is something else going on.

Check your GPU and CPU usage while gaming, to see what is being held back, and what is over working.

You make it sound as if it is steady at 1-2 FPS. That's not the case. And I've read from quite a few threads that an 8320 would really cause some bottlenecking for the 970. But I didn't have an aftermarket cooler then. But now I do, I'd be doing some overclocking and look for any improvements or if there'd be none.

 

[azzazel_99]

The 8320 is just a under clocked 8350. Your drops though going as low as they are shouldn't be happening even if you were bottlenecking. Do you still get the drops into the single digits with v sync off? Honestly you need to run adaptive v sync in the nvidia control panel and turn ALL other v sync off in game. Adaptive works much better and most games you can even lock your fps. Like in bf4 I have mine locked at 119.98 because I run a 144hz monitor. As stated I would monitor the usage percentage of your graphics card as well as you cpu when the drops happen see if the the bottleneck is indeed your CPU.

 

[bystander]

I guaranty that overclocking is not the solution. If your FPS are dropping to 1, increasing your CPU's speed by 20% is only enough to get your FPS to 2 FPS at best. There is something else going on.

Check your GPU and CPU usage while gaming, to see what is being held back, and what is over working.

You make it sound as if it is steady at 1-2 FPS. That's not the case. And I've read from quite a few threads that an 8320 would really cause some bottlenecking for the 970. But I didn't have an aftermarket cooler then. But now I do, I'd be doing some overclocking and look for any improvements or if there'd be none.

Forgive me. You said you were having extreme FPS dips to 0-1, and I assumed you wanted to fix those dips.

Sure, an OC will help your FPS if you are CPU bound, but it isn't going to help what ever is causing your extreme FPS dips. An OC will help you by a percentage. If you could improve your FPS by 20%, it still won't help those extreme situations.

 

[damric]

Yeah shoot me a message here or at overclock.net if you need help with tuning up that FX-8320. I will get your FPS up

 

[bystander]

Shouldn't we be working on fixing the major issue of sub 10 FPS before trying to squeeze out extra performance? There is something wrong with his setup, and OCing is just going to add more variables.

 

[damric]

Shouldn't we be working on fixing the major issue of sub 10 FPS before trying to squeeze out extra performance? There is something wrong with his setup, and OCing is just going to add more variables.

If I had not seen this same problem occur literally thousands of times, I would entertain other options first. The problem here is that the FX-8320 @3.5GHz is a terrible performer in games. What might only cause a small hiccup on your 4GHz i7 will cause a major valley on the Vishera. They have everything from poor single core performance to L3 cache problems. Much of it can be mitigated by getting CPU clock over 4500MHz and tuning the NB and RAM.

 

[bystander]

Yeah, but even if you tripled the speed, you are still at sub 10 FPS. I've seen these AMD poor performers all over the place, but they are only dropping to 30, or a little less. It seems more likely something else is going on, unless that was an isolated problem.

 

[damric]

I've benched just about every generation of AMD CPU/APU. It happens. IF it doesn't work, it will be readily apparent, and we will look elsewhere.
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