Fairly inexperienced, seeking a little bit of definitive information, as well as advice on a loop

[Artemus_V]

This is a copy of an email I sent the tech support guys at Frozencpu.com. I've only ever built a very simple loop to cool a dual core CPU, here's my second try at it and I have some very particular questions. My loop is to be cooling 2 x EVGA 780 Ti Classifieds only.

I would greatly appreciate it, if at your earliest convenience you could let me know if you see any potential problems with this setup and or perhaps any modifications that would be more optimal.

I originally wanted to use distilled water only with a silver microbial coil, but after much reading about the corrosion with EK Nickel plated blocks, I am completely open to advice with the coolant. I have been waiting months for hydro copper restock for the 780 ti classifieds but seems like it's taking forever, also I heard that the EK blocks do a better job at cooling the important VRMs.

I also want to be able to mount the fans onto the radiator without damaging the fins, as well as to the radbox, also to mount the radbox to the rear of the Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced, I am really looking for screws of the right size and the appropriate length.


- Cooler Master Haf 932 Advanced Case

- XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir + D5 Variable Speed Pump

- PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Tubing 7/16"ID x 5/8" OD Tubing

- XSPC G1/4" Thread 7/16" ID x 5/8" OD Low Profile Compression Fitting - Black Chrome V2

- EK EVGA 780 Classified (and 780 Ti Classified) VGA Liquid Cooling Block - Nickel (EK-FC780 GTX Classy - Nickel) with backplates.

- Swiftech MCB-120™ Revision 2 "Radbox" Radiator/Fan Housing - Black to mount the radiator on the rear of the case

- XSPC RX360 Triple 120mm Radiator V3 - Matte Black

- 6 Corsair SP120 High Performance in Push/Pull


Thank you in advance for your time and consideration. 4 main points of help and input if any of you have the time I would be very grateful.

1. If you can advise me on an absolute and definitive answer for the correct screws for the particular radiator/fans/case that would be amazing.

2. Also thoughts/ideas information on coolant that will be able to function optimally with no corrosion, microbes but also not leave any residual gunk or anything to hamper performance or maintenance.

3. For this particular loop with all the research I've done I am leaning towards XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir with D5 Pump, but I am also open to other suggestions, I know this is a big matter of opinion, but things to consider I don't care about how much noise it makes, I also would like to be able to expand the loop a little bit in the future, perhaps another radiator, and CPU block at some point. Would the D5 Variable be fine, or is there a better solution. I also was a bit interested in the koolance PMP500 it had amazing specs. But again I am pretty inexperienced and uneducated on all the different types of strongpoints of each variation of each pump.

4 And lastly do all the listed parks work correctly together? I know a little bit about what metals not to mix, but if there is something I am missing, again, anything that would be more optimal please let me know. Also if there are things that are perhaps overkill or unnecessary that would be great to know as well.

Oh and lol, last minor question, I know I have to purchase barbs and fittings, but will I need to purchase plugs also? Or do the parts come with plugs, and if not how many should I get?


Have a wonderful day everyone and thank you for your time once again.

 

[Hello man]

This is a copy of an email I sent the tech support guys at Frozencpu.com. I've only ever built a very simple loop to cool a dual core CPU, here's my second try at it and I have some very particular questions. My loop is to be cooling 2 x EVGA 780 Ti Classifieds only.

I would greatly appreciate it, if at your earliest convenience you could let me know if you see any potential problems with this setup and or perhaps any modifications that would be more optimal.

I originally wanted to use distilled water only with a silver microbial coil, but after much reading about the corrosion with EK Nickel plated blocks, I am completely open to advice with the coolant. I have been waiting months for hydro copper restock for the 780 ti classifieds but seems like it's taking forever, also I heard that the EK blocks do a better job at cooling the important VRMs.

I also want to be able to mount the fans onto the radiator without damaging the fins, as well as to the radbox, also to mount the radbox to the rear of the Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced, I am really looking for screws of the right size and the appropriate length.


- Cooler Master Haf 932 Advanced Case

- XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir + D5 Variable Speed Pump

- PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Tubing 7/16"ID x 5/8" OD Tubing

- XSPC G1/4" Thread 7/16" ID x 5/8" OD Low Profile Compression Fitting - Black Chrome V2

- EK EVGA 780 Classified (and 780 Ti Classified) VGA Liquid Cooling Block - Nickel (EK-FC780 GTX Classy - Nickel) with backplates.

- Swiftech MCB-120™ Revision 2 "Radbox" Radiator/Fan Housing - Black to mount the radiator on the rear of the case

- XSPC RX360 Triple 120mm Radiator V3 - Matte Black

- 6 Corsair SP120 High Performance in Push/Pull


Thank you in advance for your time and consideration. 4 main points of help and input if any of you have the time I would be very grateful.

1. If you can advise me on an absolute and definitive answer for the correct screws for the particular radiator/fans/case that would be amazing.

2. Also thoughts/ideas information on coolant that will be able to function optimally with no corrosion, microbes but also not leave any residual gunk or anything to hamper performance or maintenance.

3. For this particular loop with all the research I've done I am leaning towards XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir with D5 Pump, but I am also open to other suggestions, I know this is a big matter of opinion, but things to consider I don't care about how much noise it makes, I also would like to be able to expand the loop a little bit in the future, perhaps another radiator, and CPU block at some point. Would the D5 Variable be fine, or is there a better solution. I also was a bit interested in the koolance PMP500 it had amazing specs. But again I am pretty inexperienced and uneducated on all the different types of strongpoints of each variation of each pump.

4 And lastly do all the listed parks work correctly together? I know a little bit about what metals not to mix, but if there is something I am missing, again, anything that would be more optimal please let me know. Also if there are things that are perhaps overkill or unnecessary that would be great to know as well.

Oh and lol, last minor question, I know I have to purchase barbs and fittings, but will I need to purchase plugs also? Or do the parts come with plugs, and if not how many should I get?


Have a wonderful day everyone and thank you for your time once again.

If you are using flexible tubing, you CANNOT use compression fittings. The squishiness of the tube will not allow the compression fitting to grab on. Use barbs and hose clamps for flexible tube. I like Primochil Advanced LRT. As far as coolant goes, I used Primochil PC ICE in clear. It is anti-microbial, non corrosive and 100% non-toxic. Parts come with plugs usually. If you want to expand the loop later, go with a Dual D5. More power. Inch and 1/4 screws work, but I cannot remember the thread number. They are machine screws however. To find them, do what I did, and bring you're radiator to the hardware store. Try different screws. Try to match the screw color the the radiator color. Black to black, silver to white.

 

[Artemus_V]

Thank you so much for the information about the tubing and compression fittings. That was something I did not know.

 

[Hello man]

Thank you so much for the information about the tubing and compression fittings. That was something I did not know.

It seldom is. Glad I could help with that. As far as the research I did about you're components, they are really 100% fine.

 

[4Ryan6]

If you are using flexible tubing, you CANNOT use compression fittings. The squishiness of the tube will not allow the compression fitting to grab on. Use barbs and hose clamps for flexible tube. I like Primochil Advanced LRT. As far as coolant goes, I used Primochil PC ICE in clear. It is anti-microbial, non corrosive and 100% non-toxic. Parts come with plugs usually. If you want to expand the loop later, go with a Dual D5. More power. Inch and 1/4 screws work, but I cannot remember the thread number. They are machine screws however. To find them, do what I did, and bring you're radiator to the hardware store. Try different screws. Try to match the screw color the the radiator color. Black to black, silver to white.

There are 2 types of G1/4 threaded (Thread standard for Rads, Pumps, and Water Blocks), water cooling compression fittings, one style for flexible tubing and one style for solid acrylic tubing. The compression fitting for solid acrylic uses a compressed rubber O-Ring seal against the tubing, some of the better designs use 2 O-Rings.

The article below shows the difference between the two types of compression fittings.

http://www.computerpoweruser.com/article/15153/power-user-project

Click view the article as a PDF, and you get all the pictures covered in the article.

Regarding the underlined, you can and many do use compression fittings with flexible tubing, and have done so for years, it might be best to educate yourself regarding water cooling before advising others with inaccurate information.

 

[4Ryan6]

Thank you so much for the information about the tubing and compression fittings. That was something I did not know.

His information is incorrect.

 

[Hello man]

Thank you so much for the information about the tubing and compression fittings. That was something I did not know.

His information is incorrect.

@4Ryan6 With compression fittings for flexible tube-do they decrease flow/have any benefits?

 

[4Ryan6]

Thank you so much for the information about the tubing and compression fittings. That was something I did not know.

His information is incorrect.

@4Ryan6 With compression fittings for flexible tube-do they decrease flow/have any benefits?

They do not decrease flow as you size them the same as you would a barbed fitting, going for the Hi-Flow models, except with a barbed fitting you only need concern yourself with the tubing ID, if you use the stainless steel hose clamp.

With compression fittings for flex tube you have to size the fitting for the ID and OD of the tubing being used, because without the proper tubing ID / OD dimensions the compression fitting will not seal the tube.

Even with fixed metal or nylon sized clamps for the barbed fittings, you have to make sure they're OD matched are they won't tighten all the way.

IMO the only benefits of flex tube compression fittings are they look really good.