Fan Placement for Phanteks Enthoo Pro M?
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geofelt
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How high is high?
Are you talking cpu or gpu temperatures?
My inclination would be to have the front mounted radiator be the only intake.
Use stronger fans if needed.
Use a single rear exhaust fan mainly to direct airflow.
If the front fans are filtered, your case will stay cleaner.
By having the intake from the outside of the case, the cpu cooler will get cooler fresh air to do its job.
The trade off is that your graphics card will not get cooled as well. You can't win with liquid cooling.
Are you talking cpu or gpu temperatures?
My inclination would be to have the front mounted radiator be the only intake.
Use stronger fans if needed.
Use a single rear exhaust fan mainly to direct airflow.
If the front fans are filtered, your case will stay cleaner.
By having the intake from the outside of the case, the cpu cooler will get cooler fresh air to do its job.
The trade off is that your graphics card will not get cooled as well. You can't win with liquid cooling.
feelinfroggy777
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I dont think I would use this setup. One issue is that you will have with this current setup is dust. Most cases intake air from the front and the bottom of the case and the air exits the case through the rear and the top. The intake areas on the case have a protective screen mesh that filters out dust from entering the case. With you setup there is not a mesh screen on the rear of the case therefore you will bring in dust. Dust is not good for PC parts.
The other issue is deals with positive and negative pressure. Whatever air you bring in the case, has to exit the case. There for you have 4 fans bringing air in and two exiting fans. What will happen is the cool air will have no where to go and exit the case near the intake and will not cool your case.
The last thing is that hot air rises. Your current setup forces the hot air through the front. Therefore it will take longer for it to leave, thus your temps will be higher. The hot air wants to go up, you want it to go out of your case, make it easier for the hot air to go up by exiting the air at the top of the case.
The other issue is deals with positive and negative pressure. Whatever air you bring in the case, has to exit the case. There for you have 4 fans bringing air in and two exiting fans. What will happen is the cool air will have no where to go and exit the case near the intake and will not cool your case.
The last thing is that hot air rises. Your current setup forces the hot air through the front. Therefore it will take longer for it to leave, thus your temps will be higher. The hot air wants to go up, you want it to go out of your case, make it easier for the hot air to go up by exiting the air at the top of the case.
Is it me or everything is in the wrong direction!!!!
Front should be intake, Rear and Top outake!!! (Which is normal since heat is going up)...
If you add more fans, side and bottom are supposed to be intake too)...
You can try that first!!!! ;-)
Front should be intake, Rear and Top outake!!! (Which is normal since heat is going up)...
If you add more fans, side and bottom are supposed to be intake too)...
You can try that first!!!! ;-)
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After benchmarking I can say that it did okay but still getting high temps , my i7 7700K gets a max of 80 degrees celcius while most people get around 54-60 degrees as their max , not sure whats wrong and my GTX 1070 stays at 80 when playing most games.
feelinfroggy777
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Most people are not maxing their temps out at 60C on their i7 7700k under load with on overclock. If they are then they are not checking temps at load, have delidded their chip, have a very expensive cooling setup, or are lying. I have a similar CPU cooler as you do and have a 7700k OC to 5.0ghz. Under load my max temps hit 80C, but usually hang around the 75C mark. These are during stress test which really put pressure on your CPU. Gaming applications do not put that much stress on CPU. But 80C is okay for me temp wise, but it is about as high as I like to see it for a CPU before I start bringing voltages back down. Kabby Lake runs a little hot.
You can run a push/pull configuration by adding fans to both sides of your radiator. This will increase the airflow across the radiator fins and add additional cooling, but maybe only a few degrees. The only other thing that you can do now is to delid your chip and apply highend thermal past to the heat spreader. Some people claim to see 20C improvement with the new thermal paste. But it is not big enough of a deal for me to take apart my chip.
As for your 1070, while the Strix has good air cooling, it is OC from ASUS and I have no idea what additional OC you have on the card, 80C could be in the right range. First thing is to check your fan curve, factory fan curve will not be enough. So getting the fans to 80-90% at 80C will bring the temp down, but make more noise. Pascal runs hot, and it has a built in fail safe as it will slow down when it gets to hot. 80C is not the thermal throttle point. So end the end, the temps are fine.
You can run a push/pull configuration by adding fans to both sides of your radiator. This will increase the airflow across the radiator fins and add additional cooling, but maybe only a few degrees. The only other thing that you can do now is to delid your chip and apply highend thermal past to the heat spreader. Some people claim to see 20C improvement with the new thermal paste. But it is not big enough of a deal for me to take apart my chip.
As for your 1070, while the Strix has good air cooling, it is OC from ASUS and I have no idea what additional OC you have on the card, 80C could be in the right range. First thing is to check your fan curve, factory fan curve will not be enough. So getting the fans to 80-90% at 80C will bring the temp down, but make more noise. Pascal runs hot, and it has a built in fail safe as it will slow down when it gets to hot. 80C is not the thermal throttle point. So end the end, the temps are fine.
geofelt
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Not to worry.
Some thoughts:
First of all, the temperature at which Intel will throttle or downclock to protect itself from damage is about 100c.
If your stress test uses AVX instructions, like prime95, it will unduly increase your temperatures.
Some motherboards have an option for AVX offset which will reduce the max multiplier when AVX instructions are present.
Then, normal gaming will never stress your cpu fully.
Most games can only effectively use 2-3 threads.
If you see activity on all threads, that is just windows spreading the load among all available threads.
Not all chips OC well, it is luck of the draw. You hear about the good results, those with dog chips stay silent.
If you want more cooling, you can increase the rpm of the radiator fans considerably.
The price you pay is more noise.
Ultimately, I think you are good, go ahead and enjoy.
Some thoughts:
First of all, the temperature at which Intel will throttle or downclock to protect itself from damage is about 100c.
If your stress test uses AVX instructions, like prime95, it will unduly increase your temperatures.
Some motherboards have an option for AVX offset which will reduce the max multiplier when AVX instructions are present.
Then, normal gaming will never stress your cpu fully.
Most games can only effectively use 2-3 threads.
If you see activity on all threads, that is just windows spreading the load among all available threads.
Not all chips OC well, it is luck of the draw. You hear about the good results, those with dog chips stay silent.
If you want more cooling, you can increase the rpm of the radiator fans considerably.
The price you pay is more noise.
Ultimately, I think you are good, go ahead and enjoy.
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