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I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about 10
min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with the 4.12
drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to medium,
except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA at
1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can handle
the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting the game
it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing still I can
see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything running in the
background except the essentials. I've also read over the tweak guild for
the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help would be much
appreciated. TIA JLC
 
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"JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about
>10 min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with the
>4.12 drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to
>medium, except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA
>at 1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can
>handle the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting
>the game it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing
>still I can see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything
>running in the background except the essentials. I've also read over the
>tweak guild for the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help
>would be much appreciated. TIA JLC

Correction: Should read "trees stuttering back and forth" JLC
 
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JLC wrote:

> I finally decided to try FarCry

Sorry to hear that.
 
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JLC wrote:
> "Raymond Martineau" <bk039@ncf.ca> wrote in message
> news:7kdmu0lt41pv77g04e77b6sp3825chodph@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:20 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until
about
> >>10
> >>min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with
the
> >>4.12
> >>drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to
medium,
> >>except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA
at
> >>1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC
can
> >>handle
> >>the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting
the
> >>game
> >>it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing still
I can
> >>see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything running
in the
> >>background except the essentials. I've also read over the tweak
guild for
> >>the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help would be
much
> >>appreciated. TIA JLC
> >>
> >
> > How well does Farcry work without the 2XAA? To compensate, you
could
> > increase your resolutoin if possible. I expect that it should
either
> > delay
> > the loss of FPS or make it more bearable, but can't guarentee it.
> >
> > I can't help you with the problem directly, but I'm beginning to
see this
> > kind of problem coming up more and more (in other games as well.)
>
> What's so strange about this problem is that the game runs great for
about
> 10-15min. Then the stuttering kicks in. I've spent the evening
reading the
> forums on the FarCry site and it looks like a lot of other have this
> problem. But theirs seem to start right away, where as mine takes a
few min.
> I'm sure I'll figure it out. JLC


I got quite a bit of stutter with the Far Cry demo and virtually none
with HL2 even though my pc was well under the recommended specs so I
can only assume this HL2 stutter bug everyone talks about is a myth
dreampt up by the very vocal HL2-Hater club.
 
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:20 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:

>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about 10
>min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with the 4.12
>drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to medium,
>except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA at
>1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can handle
>the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting the game
>it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing still I can
>see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything running in the
>background except the essentials. I've also read over the tweak guild for
>the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help would be much
>appreciated. TIA JLC
>

How well does Farcry work without the 2XAA? To compensate, you could
increase your resolutoin if possible. I expect that it should either delay
the loss of FPS or make it more bearable, but can't guarentee it.

I can't help you with the problem directly, but I'm beginning to see this
kind of problem coming up more and more (in other games as well.)
 
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"Raymond Martineau" <bk039@ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:20 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about
>>10
>>min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with the
>>4.12
>>drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to medium,
>>except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA at
>>1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can
>>handle
>>the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting the
>>game
>>it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing still I can
>>see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything running in the
>>background except the essentials. I've also read over the tweak guild for
>>the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help would be much
>>appreciated. TIA JLC
>>
>
> How well does Farcry work without the 2XAA? To compensate, you could
> increase your resolutoin if possible. I expect that it should either
> delay
> the loss of FPS or make it more bearable, but can't guarentee it.
>
> I can't help you with the problem directly, but I'm beginning to see this
> kind of problem coming up more and more (in other games as well.)

What's so strange about this problem is that the game runs great for about
10-15min. Then the stuttering kicks in. I've spent the evening reading the
forums on the FarCry site and it looks like a lot of other have this
problem. But theirs seem to start right away, where as mine takes a few min.
I'm sure I'll figure it out. JLC
 
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"JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about
>10 min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with the
>4.12 drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to
>medium, except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA
>at 1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can
>handle the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting
>the game it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing
>still I can see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything
>running in the background except the essentials. I've also read over the
>tweak guild for the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help
>would be much appreciated. TIA JLC
it was a fairly common problem when the demo was released - i
experienced it. i had a 9100 at the time and i swapped to a geforce 4 before
the game came out and had no trouble at all.
have you installed the 1.3 patch ? you dont mention that.
i now have a xp2400, 768mb, 9700NP system and play FC at
1024x768 medium settings with water and lighting at high.
 
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> can only assume this HL2 stutter bug everyone talks about is a myth
> dreampt up by the very vocal HL2-Hater club.

untrue.

Back to topic: turn the water quality down! now! its something that takes
huge resources! Just read the read.me .... it says start turning water
quality down, (then audio quality then FSAA...)

good luck!
 
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On 16 Jan 2005 23:01:25 -0800, cr0n1k@hotmail.com wrote:

>I got quite a bit of stutter with the Far Cry demo and virtually none
>with HL2 even though my pc was well under the recommended specs so I
>can only assume this HL2 stutter bug everyone talks about is a myth
>dreampt up by the very vocal HL2-Hater club.

For every DiFool there is an equal and opposite fool. *plonk*
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<cr0n1k@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> JLC wrote:
> > "Raymond Martineau" <bk039@ncf.ca> wrote in message
> > news:7kdmu0lt41pv77g04e77b6sp3825chodph@4ax.com...
> > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:20 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until
> about
> > >>10
> > >>min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with
> the
> > >>4.12
> > >>drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to
> medium,
> > >>except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA
> at
> > >>1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC
> can
> > >>handle
> > >>the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting
> the
> > >>game
> > >>it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing still
> I can
> > >>see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything running
> in the
> > >>background except the essentials. I've also read over the tweak
> guild for
> > >>the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help would be
> much
> > >>appreciated. TIA JLC
> > >>
> > >
> > > How well does Farcry work without the 2XAA? To compensate, you
> could
> > > increase your resolutoin if possible. I expect that it should
> either
> > > delay
> > > the loss of FPS or make it more bearable, but can't guarentee it.
> > >
> > > I can't help you with the problem directly, but I'm beginning to
> see this
> > > kind of problem coming up more and more (in other games as well.)
> >
> > What's so strange about this problem is that the game runs great for
> about
> > 10-15min. Then the stuttering kicks in. I've spent the evening
> reading the
> > forums on the FarCry site and it looks like a lot of other have this
> > problem. But theirs seem to start right away, where as mine takes a
> few min.
> > I'm sure I'll figure it out. JLC
>
>
> I got quite a bit of stutter with the Far Cry demo and virtually none
> with HL2 even though my pc was well under the recommended specs so I
> can only assume this HL2 stutter bug everyone talks about is a myth
> dreampt up by the very vocal HL2-Hater club.
>

And you are Gabe Newells pet gerbil.
 
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Did you patch the game? I ran it all the way through with no slowing or
stuttering at all. Used a AMD64 2800+,512M DDR,Geforce FX5900. I don't think I
used AA though I did use AF.High AF really put a beating on the framerate. Try
turning down either or both.



>>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about
>>10 min. into the game

>he game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can
>>handle the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting
>>the game it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing
 
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:20 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:

>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about 10
>min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with the 4.12
>drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to medium,
>except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA at
>1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can handle
>the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting the game
>it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing still I can
>see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything running in the
>background except the essentials.

Turned off all startup programs in msconfig ?

Turned off 2xAA ?

Which Far Cry patch ?

John Lewis

> I've also read over the tweak guild for
>the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help would be much
>appreciated. TIA JLC
>
>
 
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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:20 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about
>>10
>>min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with the
>>4.12
>>drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to medium,
>>except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA at
>>1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can
>>handle
>>the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting the
>>game
>>it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing still I can
>>see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything running in the
>>background except the essentials.
>
> Turned off all startup programs in msconfig ?
>
> Turned off 2xAA ?
>
> Which Far Cry patch ?
>
> John Lewis
>
>> I've also read over the tweak guild for
>>the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help would be much
>>appreciated. TIA JLC
>>
>>

I think I solve the problem. I have the latest patch for all of those that
asked. I read a thread in one of the FarCry forums about the game not liking
USB Gamepads/Joysticks. I have a Saitek P880 and I also have it's config
program running in the background. I unplugged the pad and turned off the
pads program, and so far the game is working fine.
On a side note, I'm really enjoying this game. I've been following the HL2
vs. FarCry thread and I can't understand how someone can say the FarCry is
linear. I spent about 2 hours just having a blast with the first two levels.
There's so many ways to go about the getting the goal done how it can be
called linear just blows my mind. So far this game is shaping up to be my
favorite of last year. I'd placed Riddick in that spot until I started
FarCry. HL2 was great tell the toward the end (I'm not done yet, but close)
As soon as I had to deal with my "squad" the game took a nose dive for me.
What had been a great and fun game turned into a pain in the ass as I had to
stumble over two or more of my "followers" What the hell was Valve thinking
adding this to the game I haven't a clue. I feel the game would have been
much better without the help. I'm really excited about spending time with
Farcry. It's so fun to be able to roam around and be free of the rails that
are so tight in HL2. To each his own I guess. JLC
 
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"Raymond Martineau" <bk039@ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:20 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I finally decided to try FarCry and I thought it was all good until about
>>10
>>min. into the game. I'm running it on a 2GHz P4 and a 9800Pro with the
>>4.12
>>drivers. I have 1 Gig of ram. I'm running with all setting set to medium,
>>except the water which is set to high. I'm also running with 2xAA at
>>1024x768. The game runs great and I was really relived that my PC can
>>handle
>>the game. But no matter where I'm at, in about 10min after starting the
>>game
>>it starts to stutter and the fps drop. Even when I'm standing still I can
>>see the tress stutter back and forth. I don't have anything running in the
>>background except the essentials. I've also read over the tweak guild for
>>the game and haven't found my problem mentioned. Any help would be much
>>appreciated. TIA JLC
>>
>
> How well does Farcry work without the 2XAA?


His ATI-based card should be able to handle the 2xAA with absolutely no
problem.
 
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"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
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> On 16 Jan 2005 23:01:25 -0800, cr0n1k@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >I got quite a bit of stutter with the Far Cry demo and virtually none
> >with HL2 even though my pc was well under the recommended specs so I
> >can only assume this HL2 stutter bug everyone talks about is a myth
> >dreampt up by the very vocal HL2-Hater club.
>
> For every DiFool there is an equal and opposite fool. *plonk*

I think they're called Bizzaro Fools
 
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:48:30 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:

> On a side note, I'm really enjoying this game. I've been following the HL2
>vs. FarCry thread and I can't understand how someone can say the FarCry is
>linear. I spent about 2 hours just having a blast with the first two levels.

Get back to us when you finish it. The linearity and difficulty
increases exponentially as you progress through the game, and
unfortunately the fun decreases at the same rate.
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:29:55 -0500, "Nonymous" <noham@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>"Raymond Martineau" <bk039@ncf.ca> wrote in message
>news:7kdmu0lt41pv77g04e77b6sp3825chodph@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:20 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> How well does Farcry work without the 2XAA?
>
>
>His ATI-based card should be able to handle the 2xAA with absolutely no
>problem.

I know that, but I wanted to know a difference in performance after 2xAA
was disabled.

Of course, that wasn't the problem - the OP stated that the USB gamepad was
causing the slowdown.
 
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:48:30 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:


>>>
>
>I think I solve the problem. I have the latest patch for all of those that
>asked. I read a thread in one of the FarCry forums about the game not liking
>USB Gamepads/Joysticks. I have a Saitek P880 and I also have it's config
>program running in the background. I unplugged the pad and turned off the
>pads program, and so far the game is working fine.
> On a side note, I'm really enjoying this game. I've been following the HL2
>vs. FarCry thread and I can't understand how someone can say the FarCry is
>linear. I spent about 2 hours just having a blast with the first two levels.
>There's so many ways to go about the getting the goal done how it can be
>called linear just blows my mind. So far this game is shaping up to be my
>favorite of last year. I'd placed Riddick in that spot until I started
>FarCry. HL2 was great tell the toward the end (I'm not done yet, but close)
>As soon as I had to deal with my "squad" the game took a nose dive for me.
>What had been a great and fun game turned into a pain in the ass as I had to
>stumble over two or more of my "followers" What the hell was Valve thinking
>adding this to the game I haven't a clue. I feel the game would have been
>much better without the help. I'm really excited about spending time with
>Farcry. It's so fun to be able to roam around and be free of the rails that
>are so tight in HL2. To each his own I guess. JLC
>


I assumed you had played FarCry already JLC! You're in for a big
treat. That game has really aged well with the patches and I hope you
have the rig to really crank up the graphics.

Here's some tweaks for you to mess with in the console.

\r_displayinfo 1 = fps / 0 for off
\r_waterRefractions 1 = cool to check out but unplayable since ALL is
reflected in the water, blow up a boat and watch the framerate dip.
Still cool though.


Goto your start/programs/far cry folder and run the configure Far Cry
shortcut:
Video options (advanced) tab
click Customize button
Special Effects quality tab:
change R_GLARE to 0.

This glare feature is for the sandy beaches. If you stare at the beach
you'll see a glare effect like in real life, but a cost of framerate.
Like 5 or 7 on my rig. Turning it off isn't a big deal visually but
every little frame helps ya know?

In regards to Half-Life 2 and the squad part, I was pretty damn
annoyed by the constant blocking of my play too. They are relentless
in their stupidity and will block you in groups of 2 to 3 and you
can't get through doorways and narrow hallways. HL2 lost 2 points in
my mind right there. On top of that.. if you try to blow the idiots
away to clear a path they don't even react to your shotgun in the face
shot. WEAK WEAK WEAK.

Pluvious
 
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"Pluvious" <Pluvious@knowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> I assumed you had played FarCry already JLC! You're in for a big
> treat. That game has really aged well with the patches and I hope you
> have the rig to really crank up the graphics.
>
> Here's some tweaks for you to mess with in the console.
>
> \r_displayinfo 1 = fps / 0 for off
> \r_waterRefractions 1 = cool to check out but unplayable since ALL is
> reflected in the water, blow up a boat and watch the framerate dip.
> Still cool though.
>
>
> Goto your start/programs/far cry folder and run the configure Far Cry
> shortcut:
> Video options (advanced) tab
> click Customize button
> Special Effects quality tab:
> change R_GLARE to 0.
>
> This glare feature is for the sandy beaches. If you stare at the beach
> you'll see a glare effect like in real life, but a cost of framerate.
> Like 5 or 7 on my rig. Turning it off isn't a big deal visually but
> every little frame helps ya know?
>
> In regards to Half-Life 2 and the squad part, I was pretty damn
> annoyed by the constant blocking of my play too. They are relentless
> in their stupidity and will block you in groups of 2 to 3 and you
> can't get through doorways and narrow hallways. HL2 lost 2 points in
> my mind right there. On top of that.. if you try to blow the idiots
> away to clear a path they don't even react to your shotgun in the face
> shot. WEAK WEAK WEAK.
>
> Pluvious
>

Thanks for the tips! FarCry was just one of those games I felt I could wait
for the price to drop. I ended up getting it for $13 new on EBay. JLC
 
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JLC wrote:

> On a side note, I'm really enjoying this game. I've been following the HL2
> vs. FarCry thread and I can't understand how someone can say the FarCry is
> linear.

I guess its down to definition. In Far Cry there are start points and
endpoints like most other games. You can not not perform these tasks.
OK, you can go point D around hill A or swim to point D through river
x,y or z, but you're heading to the same place to perform the same task.

Sure, you can avoid sentry points, or ram them with a car or pick them
off with a sniper gun. SO what? You can do this with most FPS games, HL2
included.

My definition of linear is immutable story line. Far Cry is, therefore,
totally linear with a slightly larger "playing area". Personally I found
the expanse of foliage boring to the nth degree, but, as the saying
goes, all to their own.

Far Cry als becomes incredibly difficult and tedious as you go on : I
didnt find that with HL2 where the variety of the levels kept you immersed.
 
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Walter Mitty wrote:

> My definition of linear is immutable story line. Far Cry is, therefore,
> totally linear with a slightly larger "playing area". Personally I found

But which games are non linear in your definition? Even in something like
Deus Ex the story stays the same, besides some small side plots, which one
could call a larger "playing area" too, right up to the different endings.

Using your definition, a game would only be non linear if right from the
start hundreds of different storylines are planned which I never heard of.
Regarding this, your definition sounds rather like a way to defend HL2 😉.

--
Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
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"JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> FarCry. HL2 was great tell the toward the end (I'm not done yet, but
close)
> As soon as I had to deal with my "squad" the game took a nose dive for me.
> What had been a great and fun game turned into a pain in the ass as I had
to
> stumble over two or more of my "followers" What the hell was Valve
thinking
> adding this to the game I haven't a clue. I feel the game would have been
> much better without the help.

Half-Life had Xen, remember? Valve had to put something in HL2 to get on
your nerves, wouldn't have been HL without it :)

I'd still give the nod to HL2, but I very much enjoyed FarCry, too. ...and I
played it on realistic the first time through. ...and some parts of it had
me sorely tried to go hunting for cheats, it was so damn hard. Not
complaining though!

Still, I think last year was an excellent one for a shooter fan, here's
hoping 2005 is shaping up to be at least a good one, STALKER and F.E.A.R
being two titles I know of. Anything else?
 
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Werner Spahl wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Walter Mitty wrote:
>
>
>>My definition of linear is immutable story line. Far Cry is, therefore,
>>totally linear with a slightly larger "playing area". Personally I found
>
>
> But which games are non linear in your definition? Even in something like
> Deus Ex the story stays the same, besides some small side plots, which one
> could call a larger "playing area" too, right up to the different endings.
>

Almost none. But I dont demand non-lineararity as a purchase
requirement. I like scripted linear games.

> Using your definition, a game would only be non linear if right from the
> start hundreds of different storylines are planned which I never heard of.
> Regarding this, your definition sounds rather like a way to defend HL2 😉.
>

Defending it against what? At the end of the day I enjoyed playing HL2.
I didn't enjoy Far Cry and the cries of "Far Cry is non linear" is, IMO,
totall bull if that POV is put up as a positive in a comparison against HL2.
 
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:25:27 -0800, Pluvious <Pluvious@knowhere.com>
wrote:

>In regards to Half-Life 2 and the squad part, I was pretty damn
>annoyed by the constant blocking of my play too. They are relentless
>in their stupidity and will block you in groups of 2 to 3 and you
>can't get through doorways and narrow hallways. HL2 lost 2 points in
>my mind right there. On top of that.. if you try to blow the idiots
>away to clear a path they don't even react to your shotgun in the face
>shot. WEAK WEAK WEAK.

I must say what bugged me more was that the friendly antlions were
bright enough to get out of my way and yet the human squad were denser
than DiFool.
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:04:23 +0000, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>
wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:48:30 -0800, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> On a side note, I'm really enjoying this game. I've been following the HL2
>>vs. FarCry thread and I can't understand how someone can say the FarCry is
>>linear. I spent about 2 hours just having a blast with the first two levels.
>
>Get back to us when you finish it. The linearity and difficulty
>increases exponentially as you progress through the game, and
>unfortunately the fun decreases at the same rate.

The difficulty goes up, but the outdoor levels continues to get more
and more open/sandbox gameplay.

If the original poster is happy with the first two levels, he'll be
real delighted to see some of the levels in the second half of the
game. Levels like Boat, Rebellion, River and the one where you have to
assault a base at night time are some of the best levels ever in an
FPS.

I still maintain that FarCry pulled off the sandbox style gameplay to
such a perfection that many gamers didn't even know the choices they
had at their disposal. It wasn't designed like NOLF (action, vehicle,
rail-sequence, stealth, action in strict order) where once you are in
stealth mode, you can't play it any other way. It wasn't designed like
branching-adventure game mechanics (scripted A, B or C progress path)
as in Deus Ex.

FarCry is one of the very few PC games (and I'll have difficulty
thinking of others) where the game (and the outdoor levels) can be
played perfectly well in style of DOOM, Metal Gear Solid,
Battlefield1942, Grand Theft Auto or any combination of these. Outside
a few idiotic boss battles, you are never forced to play the game in a
certain way. It's quite an achievement.

Of course, not having a proper save-game method also restricted gamers
from experimenting but those who did try out different things were
definitely rewarded in general.

Great game.
--
Noman
 
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