Fastest SSD on the Market?

[JacobStar910]

Hello! So I'm building a new desktop for pure power, gaming & rendering any time needed. I was wondering what's the fastest SSD on the market for today? I was looking at the Samsung 840 Pro that has 256GB, but I was wondering if there's any faster...

I'm not on a budget but please keep it under $700

 

[Novuake]

There are. But there is such a thing as diminishing returns, overkill and waste of money.

Your build is extreme overkill.

You can make a few changes and have a MORE powerful graphics capable computer, which is what you need for gaming.

May I make a better suggestion that makes a lot more sense for any gaming rig?

 

[JacobStar910]

There are. But there is such a thing as diminishing returns, overkill and waste of money.

Your build is extreme overkill.

You can make a few changes and have a MORE powerful graphics capable computer, which is what you need for gaming.

May I make a better suggestion that makes a lot more sense for any gaming rig?

Go ahead, I'm all out for suggestions.

 

[Novuake]

Here :

This build is much more powerful on the graphics side of things, where it really matters, and the CPU is more than good enough.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH8O
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH8O/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH8O/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($157.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($214.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($491.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($491.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair C70 Gunmetal Black (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420TE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($339.50 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Headphones: Razer Kraken 7.1 Channel Headset ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $2952.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-08 05:31 EST-0500)

 

[JacobStar910]

There are. But there is such a thing as diminishing returns, overkill and waste of money.

Your build is extreme overkill.

You can make a few changes and have a MORE powerful graphics capable computer, which is what you need for gaming.

May I make a better suggestion that makes a lot more sense for any gaming rig?

Here :

This build is much more powerful on the graphics side of things, where it really matters, and the CPU is more than good enough.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH8O
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH8O/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2xH8O/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($157.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($214.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($491.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($491.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair C70 Gunmetal Black (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420TE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($339.50 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Headphones: Razer Kraken 7.1 Channel Headset ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $2952.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-08 05:31 EST-0500)

May not have been the answer to my solution but more research the 840 pro seems to be fastest.

 

[Novuake]

Nope, PCI-e express based SSDs are a lot faster.

Like this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820785002

But on SATA, the Samsung is among the best.

 

[JacobStar910]

I would get that, but I'm afraid since I'm getting SLI that it wouldn't fit.

 

[Novuake]

I would get that, but I'm afraid since I'm getting SLI that it wouldn't fit.

Didn't say you should get it.

 

[JayBass]

You did not mention your budget for total machine or weather just 3D gaming graphics was all that you might require. If money is no object and you want the ultimate in performance, there are loads of configs that beat the snot out of the one suggested. If you plan on taking 3D beyond gaming to lets say movie production grade. Well then your money can get you a rig compiled that you will have to radio the tower just let them know your gonna boot kinda performance. This performance comes at a steep price but once configured and running its the ultimate in performance and stability. Can you play games on a hyper rig like this? yes, but if its only for games it would be a total waste.

Look at some of the BOXX high end workstations or if those are not powerful enough for you then some of the NVIDIA Maximus config out there. A top performing example of a maximus workstation can sport 4 x Xeon E7-8890 v2 cpu's, 2 or 4 x TESLA co-computing cards and 4 x Quadro K6000 graphics cards. If money was no object of course.

here is a custom build you might find interesting....
http://forum.nvidia-arc.com/showthread.php?12632-My-new-rendering-workstation-with-Quad-Quadro-K6000

 

[Novuake]

You did not mention your budget for total machine or weather just 3D gaming graphics was all that you might require. If money is no object and you want the ultimate in performance, there are loads of configs that beat the snot out of the one suggested. If you plan on taking 3D beyond gaming to lets say movie production grade. Well then your money can get you a rig compiled that you will have to radio the tower just let them know your gonna boot kinda performance. This performance comes at a steep price but once configured and running its the ultimate in performance and stability. Can you play games on a hyper rig like this? yes, but if its only for games it would be a total waste.

Look at some of the BOXX high end workstations or if those are not powerful enough for you then some of the NVIDIA Maximus config out there. A top performing example of a maximus workstation can sport 4 x Xeon E7-8890 v2 cpu's, 2 or 4 x TESLA co-computing cards and 4 x Quadro K6000 graphics cards. If money was no object of course.

here is a custom build you might find interesting....
http://forum.nvidia-arc.com/showthread.php?12632-My-new-rendering-workstation-with-Quad-Quadro-K6000

Please don't comment on threads for 3 months ago that are already solved.

 

[PeteyMoose]

There are. But there is such a thing as diminishing returns, overkill and waste of money.

Your build is extreme overkill.

You can make a few changes and have a MORE powerful graphics capable computer, which is what you need for gaming.

May I make a better suggestion that makes a lot more sense for any gaming rig?

Go ahead, I'm all out for suggestions.

HI Jacob,

I realize that your original post was several months ago and that you never really received a detailed response specifically about the SSD but I also know that many other people may have this same question as SSD are becoming pretty popular now that prices have come down quite a bit, so hopefully someone else may find this post useful. I have used SSD drives in my last 2 computers, the newest only a few months old and I can tell you that when used as a boot drive and application drive there is nothing like them.

Samsung is one of the premiere electronics manufacturers and the 840 Pro is one of the fastest SATA 3.0 SSDs on the consumer retail market, however, they are also a little more pricey than some of the major competitors at similar performance levels and storage size.
Sticking with a similar storage capacity, 240-256GB, there are two other SATA 3.0 SSDs that I would look at as an alternative to the Samsung.

The first would be the SanDisk Extreme II 240GB (at the time of this post $174 on Amazon) which has a Sequential Read/Write up to 550MB/510MB per second.

The second alternative would be the Kingston KC300 240GB (at the time of this post $154.13 on Amazon) which has a Sequential Read/Write up to 525MB/500MB per second.

The Samsung 840 Pro has a Sequential Read/Write up to 550MB/520MB per second but is currently on Amazon at $203.29.

There is virtually no noticeable difference in performance between the Samsung and the SanDisk and the Kingston is very close behind in performance, also having the best price point. However yes the ASUS ROG RAIDR Express PCI-E 240GB that was mentioned in another post would be much faster at 830MBps/810MBps but at more than double the price of the Samsung, currently selling for around $500. If your realistic budget on a small amount of storage is $700 then sure go with the ASUS PCI-E SSD, but for the average high end gamer/graphics scream machine any one of the 3 SATA drives will perform admirably.

Both Kingston and SanDisk are major memory manufacturers and really know their stuff when it comes to these types of drives but the most important factor that many people overlook when it comes to these drives is their limited storage capacity. 240GB-256GB will actually go pretty quick these days. You automatically lose about 7.5% of the total drive space to formatting, about 19-20GB for this size drive so unless you are getting a much larger one, or several of them, you will need some other mass storage drive for media and strictly use the SSD for your OS and installed software. Consider what you install and store on your computer and out of those things pick what you need to have better performance and put those on the SSD and the rest can be installed on a standard HDD. Things like Microsoft Office, iTunes, etc really don't need the extreme read and write times and will only waste your valuable, and expensive, space on the SSD.

I hope this has been helpful to at least someone out there.

Take care and happy building.

 

[JohnnyLucky]

PeteyMoose - The synthetic benchmarks you posted for the Samsung 840 Pro are old benchmarks. With the release of Samsung's "rapid mode" technology the synthetic benchmarks get quite a boost.

I have a Samsung 840 EVO 256GB ssd with rapid mode enabled in my personal pc. Here are my results using the Samsung SSD magician to measure the performance:

Sequential Read: 1,190 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1,041 MB/s
Random Read: 101,229 IOPS
Random Write: 132,953 IOPS

Essentially Samsung uses 1GB of DDR3 system memory as a cache. It reminds me a lot of the old "ramdisks" that use system memory to create a virtual disk. It might be a problem for systems with just 4GB of system memory as that would only leave 3GB for the operating system and the rest of the pc. Samsung has already announced that they will eventually release versions that could use additional system memory. It appears to be good new for consumers who installed more memory than they actually need.

Currently the fastest consumer oriented ssd's are the Mushkin Scorpion Deluxe and the OCZ RevoDrive 350. Both are PCIe 2.0 x8 ssd's. Sequential read and write performance hovers around 2,000 MB/s while random read and writes easily exceed 100,000 IOPS.

 

[MykeyMyke]

PeteyMoose - The synthetic benchmarks you posted for the Samsung 840 Pro are old benchmarks. With the release of Samsung's "rapid mode" technology the synthetic benchmarks get quite a boost.

I have a Samsung 840 EVO 256GB ssd with rapid mode enabled in my personal pc. Here are my results using the Samsung SSD magician to measure the performance:

Sequential Read: 1,190 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1,041 MB/s
Random Read: 101,229 IOPS
Random Write: 132,953 IOPS

Essentially Samsung uses 1GB of DDR3 system memory as a cache. It reminds me a lot of the old "ramdisks" that use system memory to create a virtual disk. It might be a problem for systems with just 4GB of system memory as that would only leave 3GB for the operating system and the rest of the pc. Samsung has already announced that they will eventually release versions that could use additional system memory. It appears to be good new for consumers who installed more memory than they actually need.

Currently the fastest consumer oriented ssd's are the Mushkin Scorpion Deluxe and the OCZ RevoDrive 350. Both are PCIe 2.0 x8 ssd's. Sequential read and write performance hovers around 2,000 MB/s while random read and writes easily exceed 00,000 IOPS.

One of the things I've learned is the actual ratings are max figures and when run through the performance tests in Samsung Magician, the results are somewhat disappointing because we somehow expect the max settings as advertised. This is really not the case because of all the variables and differences making ideal conditions more irregular such as synthetic benchmarks may show on brand new SSD's. Marketing strategies saying: performance specs such and such "up to" a certain value are tested and we can rely that manufactures can claim truth to their data because they probably have some SSD's reaching the max plateau. But in the real world averages we still come to expect more or less our investments are going to perform to the specs or are we still in the category of the silicone lottery?

I have several Samsung 840 Pro SSD's, 2X 128GB in Raid O and a single 256GB. in Samsung Magician the 256 was testing at about 410 mb/sec reads down from the 520ms/sec. Coupled with the fact Over time performance this will deteriorate also. Not to say this is bad, in fact reads like these are really quite good,(put up against the competition) it just shows we cannot expect these to perform at the max levels as advertised. I have also been advised by my PC Tech that Samsung Magician has some compatibility issues and I have it removed from my system now, based on his advice.

It's important to know how to keep your ssd's working in top condition also. Enabling Trim for example, where Samsung Magician tries to optimize is it really increasing performance over the long term as Trim is supposed to do? Trim enabled is part of the Windows 7 features, but very few people know how to enable it and test it if it's working. It's more like you enable it and hope it's working LOL. I've researched it and figured out how to enable it but testing is another challenge. There is a software program that tests that I've run but it seems pretty basic and not very user friendly, that leaves you with the final message, "Trim seems to be working" after it sets up a file and deletes it from the ssd.

Hopefully someone soon develops something much better especially at the price of the hardware what we pay we really want it to be performing at it's max capability and give it the maintenance it needs to do that.

Mike

 

[pawn3d]

Hello! So I'm building a new desktop for pure power, gaming & rendering any time needed. I was wondering what's the fastest SSD on the market for today? I was looking at the Samsung 840 Pro that has 256GB, but I was wondering if there's any faster...

I'm not on a budget but please keep it under $700

Hello! So I'm building a new desktop for pure power, gaming & rendering any time needed. I was wondering what's the fastest SSD on the market for today? I was looking at the Samsung 840 Pro that has 256GB, but I was wondering if there's any faster...

I'm not on a budget but please keep it under $700

I've just bought the 1TB Samsung 840 EVO and I've never experienced speeds this fast. I just transferred 17GB of data in under 2 minutes via Mac Lightning cable... Now I've got the need for speed. How fast can we go?!?!? Price is not an issue!

 

[MykeyMyke]

Hello! So I'm building a new desktop for pure power, gaming & rendering any time needed. I was wondering what's the fastest SSD on the market for today? I was looking at the Samsung 840 Pro that has 256GB, but I was wondering if there's any faster...

I'm not on a budget but please keep it under $700

Hello! So I'm building a new desktop for pure power, gaming & rendering any time needed. I was wondering what's the fastest SSD on the market for today? I was looking at the Samsung 840 Pro that has 256GB, but I was wondering if there's any faster...

I'm not on a budget but please keep it under $700

I've just bought the 1TB Samsung 840 EVO and I've never experienced speeds this fast. I just transferred 17GB of data in under 2 minutes via Mac Lightning cable... Now I've got the need for speed. How fast can we go?!?!? Price is not an issue!

Like Lucky Johnny said if you enable Rapid Mode speeds are greatly increased. I was having low speeds on my Sammy 840 Pro 256GB before I optimized for performance and enabled Rapid Mode in Samsung Magician. Although my Raid 0 Samsung Pro 128's Samsung Magician would not work in Rapid Mode, performance was better anyway than the single 256, my Raid 0 benchmark was Sequential Read = 972.95 MB/s and Sequential write= 769.23 MB/s, 4k Read 24.98 MB/s and 4K Write @ 56.13 MB/s.

Next test will be the Mushkin Scorpion Deluxe 480 GB PCie I have on order, not to many reviews on this as of yet because availability is the issue. Once I get it I have my SS 840 Pro Raid 0 SSD's and Single SSD to compare it to, looking forward to that, we'll see if it's worth all that coin$!

Mike

 

[ASDGHFDYSRTFGBVC]

Mushkin Scorpion Deluxe PCIe SSD - 480GB
I found out this one is fast

 

[Novuake]

Sigh so much bumping...