Feedback on my parts list

[D-A-S-H]

I would love to receive feedback on the parts list http://pcpartpicker.com/user/DuckVapor/saved/dwYKHx

 

[getochkn]

link doesn't work.

 

[D-A-S-H]

Fixed ^

 

[010TheMaster010]

What would this computer be used for?

 

[boosted1g]

The short answer is no.


That AMD fx cpu is just flat out not good.
All that CPUS is is a factory overclocked 8350 with a supplied water cooler at double the cost.

The end result is a very hot running CPU that gulps power that cant STILL cant beat a $175 i5 at 4 core/thead tasks; and if your program can actually use all 8 cores/threads then a Xeon or i7 even at a lower cpu hz will beat it by a fair margin.

So in short no matter what your needs are, you could literally spend less for better performance.

As far as the rest of the build:
32gb is completely unnecessary unless you are running some high end 3d modeling or engineering programs.
It will be a good 4-6 years before 32gb would at all be a considered a norm. 16gb is just now the enthusiast point.

750w PSU is massive overkill for your current build, and EVGA makes a better PSU for cheaper anyways.

Apevia is junk, not even their fans are quality. Even if abstentious green lighting is your goal.

 

[010TheMaster010]

The short answer is no.


That AMD fx cpu is just flat out not good.
All that CPUS is is a factory overclocked 8350 with a supplied water cooler at double the cost.

The end result is a very hot running CPU that gulps power that cant STILL cant beat a $175 i5 at 4 core/thead tasks; and if your program can actually use all 8 cores/threads then a Xeon or i7 even at a lower cpu hz will beat it by a fair margin.

So in short no matter what your needs are, you could literally spend less for better performance.

As far as the rest of the build:
32gb is completely unnecessary unless you are running some high end 3d modeling or engineering programs.
It will be a good 4-6 years before 32gb would at all be a considered a norm. 16gb is just now the enthusiast point.

750w PSU is massive overkill for your current build, and EVGA makes a better PSU for cheaper anyways.

Apevia is junk, not even their fans are quality. Even if abstentious green lighting is your goal.

That Xeon or i7 would cost double the price. If he wants the AMD let him. But I agree a 9590 isn't worth it, just grab an 8350 and OC it. the 32GB is probably useless for him, but you never know. wait and see what his uses are. The PSU really isn't that overkill and will support him into the future, but yes EVGA does generally make good PSUs so he can take that into consideration. As for the fans, you're probably right but they will serve his purpose well enough for a while, but he could do with some better ones.

 

[boosted1g]

The short answer is no.


That AMD fx cpu is just flat out not good.
All that CPUS is is a factory overclocked 8350 with a supplied water cooler at double the cost.

The end result is a very hot running CPU that gulps power that cant STILL cant beat a $175 i5 at 4 core/thead tasks; and if your program can actually use all 8 cores/threads then a Xeon or i7 even at a lower cpu hz will beat it by a fair margin.

So in short no matter what your needs are, you could literally spend less for better performance.

As far as the rest of the build:
32gb is completely unnecessary unless you are running some high end 3d modeling or engineering programs.
It will be a good 4-6 years before 32gb would at all be a considered a norm. 16gb is just now the enthusiast point.

750w PSU is massive overkill for your current build, and EVGA makes a better PSU for cheaper anyways.

Apevia is junk, not even their fans are quality. Even if abstentious green lighting is your goal.

That Xeon or i7 would cost double the price. If he wants the AMD let him. But I agree a 9590 isn't worth it, just grab an 8350 and OC it. the 32GB is probably useless for him, but you never know. wait and see what his uses are. The PSU really isn't that overkill and will support him into the future, but yes EVGA does generally make good PSUs so he can take that into consideration. As for the fans, you're probably right but they will serve his purpose well enough for a while, but he could do with some better ones.

Xeon is around $250 and i7 is $300-350, certainly not double the cost of the 9550 he was looking at.
If the OP needs speed then get an i5-4690k, if the OP needs threads then get the Xeon 1231, either way it will be cheaper then the 9550 and will do the task better.
As far as ram I fully acknowledged that there are genuine needs for 32gb, they are just few and far between.
Not sure how you don't think 750w is overkill for a GPU that will run just fine on 500w. At 750w you are well beyond your efficiency sweet spot and it will actually be more work on the PSU to run the system, and consume more electricity due to being less efficient at say 30% max load then 40% load.

 

[quilciri]

If you primary purpose is gaming, this is a much stronger build for the same price. Later on, you can drop in a second 980 ti without changing any other parts:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($645.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: XFX Core Edition 850W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $1341.70 ($1404.71 before rebates)
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


Cheers!

 

[quilciri]

Not sure how you don't think 750w is overkill for a GPU that will run just fine on 500w. At 750w you are well beyond your efficiency sweet spot and it will actually be more work on the PSU to run the system, and consume more electricity due to being less efficient at say 30% max load then 40% load.

Sorry to correct you, but this is way off (I agree with everything else you said in that post, though!)

50-75% load is the ideal efficiency range for a PSU. A PC drawing 500w from a 750W PSU is damn near perfect. D-A-S-H's build peaks at 526w.

Even if you're outside of that range, the efficiency of a high end PSU doesn't drop off dramatically. The Corsair PSU D-A-S-H selected is 90.4% efficient at 50% load, 89.5% efficient at 30% load, and 88.4% efficient at 90% load. The efficiency drop outside of the ideal range isn't worth consideration.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=432

What is worth consideration is whether you want to accommodate SLI/crossfire in the future. His motherboard supports it, and with that 750w PSU, he wouldn't need to change it (if he doesn't overclock) to add a second 970 in his original build.

 

[010TheMaster010]

The short answer is no.


That AMD fx cpu is just flat out not good.
All that CPUS is is a factory overclocked 8350 with a supplied water cooler at double the cost.

The end result is a very hot running CPU that gulps power that cant STILL cant beat a $175 i5 at 4 core/thead tasks; and if your program can actually use all 8 cores/threads then a Xeon or i7 even at a lower cpu hz will beat it by a fair margin.

So in short no matter what your needs are, you could literally spend less for better performance.

As far as the rest of the build:
32gb is completely unnecessary unless you are running some high end 3d modeling or engineering programs.
It will be a good 4-6 years before 32gb would at all be a considered a norm. 16gb is just now the enthusiast point.

750w PSU is massive overkill for your current build, and EVGA makes a better PSU for cheaper anyways.

Apevia is junk, not even their fans are quality. Even if abstentious green lighting is your goal.

That Xeon or i7 would cost double the price. If he wants the AMD let him. But I agree a 9590 isn't worth it, just grab an 8350 and OC it. the 32GB is probably useless for him, but you never know. wait and see what his uses are. The PSU really isn't that overkill and will support him into the future, but yes EVGA does generally make good PSUs so he can take that into consideration. As for the fans, you're probably right but they will serve his purpose well enough for a while, but he could do with some better ones.

Xeon is around $250 and i7 is $300-350, certainly not double the cost of the 9550 he was looking at.
If the OP needs speed then get an i5-4690k, if the OP needs threads then get the Xeon 1231, either way it will be cheaper then the 9550 and will do the task better.
As far as ram I fully acknowledged that there are genuine needs for 32gb, they are just few and far between.
Not sure how you don't think 750w is overkill for a GPU that will run just fine on 500w. At 750w you are well beyond your efficiency sweet spot and it will actually be more work on the PSU to run the system, and consume more electricity due to being less efficient at say 30% max load then 40% load.

Quilciri already got you on the PSU thing, but I was talking about an 8350 not the 9590, my bad. if he needs the cores and wants to OC, I say the 8350 is a fine solution for him for now. In any case we should see what OP wants to use his computer for.

 

[010TheMaster010]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7tQ3YJ
If you're gaming and doing the intel thing, here's my idea.
Sorry it goes about $100 over your original idea, but I hope it's not a problem and if it is, I can change it. opinion welcome.

 

[D-A-S-H]

Sorry i have not been on in a while, i want my computer to be able to stream CSGO among other titles while maintaining stable and high fps. While not streaming i would like to play most triple A titles on high settings

 

[D-A-S-H]

OK I have made a new thread and build pls head over there
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2816381/stream-game-photoshop.html