Fermi could run an OS

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So .. according to this guy.. it can run an OS .. BUT .. it has to be highly optimized .. BUT .. it can't REALLY run an OS. You'll still need a CPU.

That logic makes perfect sense!
 
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I have a 3 year old cel phone that runs an OS and its not 12" long. LOL

Still talking about something coming in the future huh? How bout those awesome GT210/220's they just launched, THEIR 1ST 40NM CARDS LOL.

John, you got your head so far up nvidia's ass, I bet you have a doll that you named Fermi and you sleep with it at night dont you?

They aren't even developing chipsets anymore, Nvidia is screwed, they are soooo far behind. Bye bye!

never say never...remember that
 

There's no reason to buy from them anymore. The only people who would are the fanbois or the people who think that because the GTX295 costs 600$ it has to be better than the $380 5870.
 
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nvidia will never let down hardcore gamers... they just want to produce cGPU that you can use in something else than just games.... larabee is knocking at the door so nvidia need to prepare for that and fermi is the answer
 

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Nuff said.
Just go on nvidia's website.
"FailMI" can be found under products/HIGH PERFORMACNE COMPUTING.

nVidia itself doesnt consider this a gaming GPU. Your waiting over crap man.
And with all that massive technology, x8 faster then any cpu, ECC control, gigafail threading, the cost of this card will be somewhere around the 1000~$. They did charge us 800 for a mere 8800ULTRA right?
It's over. Nvidia was too optimistic.
They failed. "FailMI" says it all.

Ati has the entire market for them. and nvidia is going up against the leader of computing technology from grounds up. The whole fermi thingy was a pure optimism. In fact, the cake was a lie.
 

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Nuff said.
Just go on nvidia's website.
"FailMI" can be found under products/HIGH PERFORMACNE COMPUTING.

nVidia itself doesnt consider this a gaming GPU. Your waiting over crap man.
And with all that massive technology, x8 faster then any cpu, ECC control, gigafail threading, the cost of this card will be somewhere around the 1000~$. They did charge us 800 for a mere 8800ULTRA right?
It's over. Nvidia was too optimistic.
They failed. "FailMI" says it all.

Ati has the entire market for them. and nvidia is going up against the leader of computing technology from grounds up. The whole fermi thingy was a pure optimism. In fact, the cake was a lie.

Even though the Fermi has everything needed for extreme gaming the 5800's have and THEN some... don't spew b/s if you have no idea what you are talking about.

And it is unlikely it will be $1000, or even $800 for that matter, prob $500 to $600
 

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what corporation do you know that will rush head long into gpu compute, they like 2 stick 2 what they know(fact), i dont expect them to sell a great deal
 

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Do you remember when the GTX200's were overpriced as hell, and then AMD released the 4800's with performance way above what nvidia thought they'd be for a better cost ratio.

Then nvidia caved their 200 series pricing to stay competitive and is still trying to recover.

They wont make that mistake twice.
 

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Yes obviously.
they sold a mere 8800ultra at 800 $. What special was in that chip?
Features

* Full support for both Microsoft® DirectX 10 and DirectX 9 for unparalleled levels of graphics realism and performance
* NVIDIA PureVideo™ HD2 technology provides unsurpassed Blu-ray and HD DVD movie picture quality
* NVIDIA 8 Series graphics processors are essential for accelerating the best Microsoft® Windows Vista™ experience

Wow, was that even special? it was just the best chip back then.
Just like the GTX 295. Double gpu so they sold it for near 700CAD.
Now what do we have here?
• 512 CUDA cores
• NVIDIA Parallel DataCache technology
• NVIDIA GigaThread™ engine
• ECC support

Do you even now whats ECC Suport? 512 freakin cuda cores?
Thats twice the last amount.
And the last card was lauched at 600.
This card will be sold MORE then 800 you ca be sure of that.
What compagnie would waste so much money to make such a big card to then sell it 600 because some people over the internet are beggin to buy it because for some reason, they dont want to get an ati that is STRONGER and cost WAY LESS.

Your waiting, over, crap. PURE crap.
This card isnt made for gaming.
It HAS the capabilities for, but they added WAY too much useless crap in it, making its production price obsolete to sell to mere gamers.
the best you can hope is that they produce a lower CUDA one to lower the price, maybe you will be able to buy that one: At 600. For 10 fps more then HD5870 at 400.
Have fun with FailMI
 

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As I just explained above, they got massacred price wise because of the 4800 vs. the 200's, unless they are completely retarded, they wont do that twice. The pres of nVidia has said on a couple different occasions, that consumers will be "pleaseantly surprised" about the 300 series pricing. It's nVidia, so I take that with a LARGE spoon full of salt, but that at least means it wont be $800 like everyone thinks it will for a single GPU card.

As for what the card offers.... again, it offers everything the 5800's do for graphics and gaming, all of it. You're also getting some neat computing tools that helping gaming in subtle ways you wont notice, but you're right, the majority of them don't impact you (some of them will though, so don't just ignore the CUDA cores :p). You're also right that the 300's will be more money, so what are you paying for? While, if the whitepaper proves to me more than just that, paper, and the performance is as intended, you're also paying for another 20% increase in speed.

Everyone needs to realize something, AMD is the performance/price ratio king, absolutely, they always will be, and nVidia will always be more expensive. But the thing is nVidia is more expensive (and owns more of the market) for a good reason, they make better, higher performing cards.

Whether they release this year or next, the new card will be better than anything AMD has on the market right now. At which point AMD will release a comparable card a few months later for less money, and then nVidia will..... etc. Just enjoy the benefits competition provides to us gamers.
 

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They will do so in all likelyhood.

The high-end will likely come out first, maybe a small amount at the end of this year. That way nVidia can show up ATI (or fail epicly at doing so) and regain it's crown (or lose half its marketshare). Then it can take a couple months and release the mainstream cards next year.

This is what I hope for at least.
 
All their innovation went into CPU and server functionality. They have already said they are shipping mostly Tesla's first. I dont think we will see new nvidia gaming GPUs available by the end of the year.

Oh wait, I'm wrong. They did fire back at ATI with the release of the 210 and 220. :p
 

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Yeah I like your explanation.
But it's just not that simple. The pricing that we will be happy about, won't be the full FERMI GTX300 that they are talking about for one good reason:
nVidia cannot FORCE a price. The technology they are using in this GPU is AMAZING. BUT, it cost ALOT just to produce these cards, they cannot make a lower price then the production price, and cannot make the price of production since they will not win a single penny. It's not their fault, they just make too good cards. But seriously, I never payed 100$/10 fps performance, that is why I never paid for nVidia cards...Maybe someday when I will be drunk...

The only explanation for a possible "pleasant" price would be a non ecc support/less cuda cores card. Because ANYWAY, we gamers do NOT need that and wont be paying 200$ for subtle 5 fps increase.I think nVidia should concentrate on SLI. There SLI is the best dual GPU technology, it scales perfectly. In fact, you can play crysis with over 60 FPS at 1600x1200 thingy (current "Gamer" resolution) with 2 GTX 260 (not even the 216 edition. With 216 it will be better). That was proved in a biased benchmark of i7 against the Phenom II 955 here at tom's (they used a 790x chip and CF4870 against a X58 with SLI260, more biased you don't get.).

Well I cant wait to see how nvidia will go up this pit..But as I said, you cant hope to get THE fermi at less then 800$ no matter WHAT marketing technique they will use. It's just not possible. Im sure they are planning a full gaming "fermi" instead of the high performance computing one.
 

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NOW yeah, No sh!et!! HD5770 scales to 100% in some game. INCREDIBLE!!!

But back then, and with the 4800 serie VS GT200, I think nVidia had the upperhand...Well thats what the benchmarks were showing...
Idunno,..