Final Compatibility Build Check (Part 2)

[Enerpi_0016]

HI! I've change my build because I found out that Ryzen is better than i7 for my editing PC. Check out the part 1 of this thread: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3403067/final-build-compatibility-check.html

I changed the processor, motherboard, and GPU from the previous part. Others remain as is.


Case- Antec 100 Mid-tower case ~(This case is my old one and I'm not planning to change it. However, I search that this case doesn't have a USB 3.0 in front but the motherboardn that I'm gonna buy have it, what options do you guys have?)~

Motherboard- MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic ~(I chose this board 'cause it's compatible with the processor)~

Processor- Ryzen 1700 ~(I think this processor is good for my editing PC)

RAM- G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 ~(Well, I don't understand the name that much but that's what my friend recommend me. Is this good?)~

GPU- ASUS ROG Radeon RX 480 STRIX-RX480-8G-GAMING 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card ~(Is this compatible with my other components? Another issue I have here is that the Asus doesn't have a VGA port and my monitor only has VGA, what should I do? Consider the performance please)

HDD- I'm gonna use my old 1TB HDD here if that's ok. Is it?

PSU- My friend recommend this three power supply: Seasonic S12II-520 ~OR~ Seasonic M12II-520 EVO ~OR~ Seasonic G-550 ~(Which is better? Is this three have enough power to run my system?)~
CPU Air Cooling- I'll just use the stock cooler of Ryzen 'cause I don't have a plan to overclocking my processor
Monitor- Samsung SyncMaster B1930 ~( This is my old one. Like I said above, it only has VGA port)~

So that's it, tell me if I forgot something. Please consider everything in every part. Tell me if there's any incompatibility in this build. Thank you for your time and have a great day! You can recommend other parts too!

 

[rhysiam]

Yes, all compatible and looks good.
Any of those PSUs are good quality with plenty of power. The "G" series is newer so get that if priced similarly, but I wouldn't be spending much more on it myself.

Couple of questions that I don't think were asked in the other thread (unless I missed them).
1) You say this is an "editing" rig, but what editing software are you using? The reason I ask is because this should guide your GPU choice. While I'm not an expert on this, my understanding is that Sony Vegas Pro uses OpenCL and tends to get more out of AMD cards (so your RX 480 would be a great choice). For Adobe Premiere Pro CC, many people recommend Nvidia hardware as it's supposedly better supported.
2) No way you can get an SSD into the budget? $80-100 gets you a decent ~$250GB SSD which will make the whole system much more responsive. Don't jeopardise your budget because it's not essential.
3) You're in a bit of a quandry if you're insisting on using that old VGA only monitor. The RX480 is digital only... so are any GTX 1060s as far as I know.
What sort of video editing are you doing? That monitor is terrible. Would you consider dropping to a Ryzen 5 1600 or 1600X and using the money saved to get a new monitor? Rendering will take ~25% longer, but it's still a competent editing CPU and at least you can look at a half-decent display while you're working. That's what I'd do in your situation with a fixed budget.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

consider changing ur mobo to gigabyte gaming 3 b350. it got a good audio codec, if that helps in ur video editing parts. otherwise u r good with ur mobo.

ryzen benefits from high speed ram. would suggest trident z 3200 2x8gb rams for 120 usd.

all those psu r quality ones and u have to decide if u r ok with non modular, or semi. mainly ur cable management skills.

r u not considering to change ur monitor? if so, try this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MRvZxr/lg-monitor-29um58p

as for gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QvGj4D/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-8gb-aorus-8g-video-card-gv-rx580aorus-8gd
is the asus cheaper than the gigabyte?

 

[elbert]

Ryzen's ccx runs at the same speed as your RAM so get 3200 RAM if possible. The 1700 is the best and the cooler has been tested to OC between 3.7~3.8Ghz. Here is the tomahawk RAM support list to help you find a good set.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem

 

[Enerpi_0016]

Yes, all compatible and looks good.
Any of those PSUs are good quality with plenty of power. The "G" series is newer so get that if priced similarly, but I wouldn't be spending much more on it myself.

Couple of questions that I don't think were asked in the other thread (unless I missed them).
1) You say this is an "editing" rig, but what editing software are you using? The reason I ask is because this should guide your GPU choice. While I'm not an expert on this, my understanding is that Sony Vegas Pro uses OpenCL and tends to get more out of AMD cards (so your RX 480 would be a great choice). For Adobe Premiere Pro CC, many people recommend Nvidia hardware as it's supposedly better supported.
2) No way you can get an SSD into the budget? $80-100 gets you a decent ~$250GB SSD which will make the whole system much more responsive. Don't jeopardise your budget because it's not essential.
3) You're in a bit of a quandry if you're insisting on using that old VGA only monitor. The RX480 is digital only... so are any GTX 1060s as far as I know.
What sort of video editing are you doing? That monitor is terrible. Would you consider dropping to a Ryzen 5 1600 or 1600X and using the money saved to get a new monitor? Rendering will take ~25% longer, but it's still a competent editing CPU and at least you can look at a half-decent display while you're working. That's what I'd do in your situation with a fixed budget.

Thank you for your answer. I'm using after effects and camtasia, but I keep studying other software too. For the monitor and SSD, I don't have a budget for them. Why did you say that my monitor is terrible? Will it not work in my GPU? And speaking of GPU, my other choice beside RX 480 is the gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB. Maybe I'll just buy a VGA to HDMI Converter but I'm not familiar with them so can you recommend a specific one? Thanks again

 

[Enerpi_0016]

Ryzen's ccx runs at the same speed as your RAM so get 3200 RAM if possible. The 1700 is the best and the cooler has been tested to OC between 3.7~3.8Ghz. Here is the tomahawk RAM support list to help you find a good set.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem

The TOMAHAWK on that site is different on what I post, please recheck. Thank you

 

[rhysiam]

Thank you for your answer. I'm using after effects and camtasia, but I keep studying other software too. For the monitor and SSD, I don't have a budget for them. Why did you say that my monitor is terrible? Will it not work in my GPU? And speaking of GPU, my other choice beside RX 480 is the gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB. Maybe I'll just buy a VGA to HDMI Converter but I'm not familiar with them so can you recommend a specific one? Thanks again

My apologies if I was a little blunt with the word "terrible".
But your video editing which benefits from a nice large display... bigger the better really.
AND, for any vaguely professional editing workflow you want a monitor with at least relatively accurate colours

Your monitor, unfortunately, is tiny at 18.5". I have no idea what the accuracy is like, but given its VGA only, it must be old and is probably not at all accurate. What I mean by that is that the colours you see on your screen are likely to be quite a bit different from the actual colours of the video, or what someone would see if they watched your video on a better calibrated display). So when you're editing, if you're adjusting colours for natural skin tones or bright flowers, for example, you can't really see what you're doing properly.

On top of that your monitor is that it's VGA (analogue) only, which will not work with the latest video cards have all given up on.
While you can buy an "active" adapter, that actually has to convert a digital signal into an analogue one. They can absolutely affect your image quality and its very difficult to find reviews on them to know which are good or not. Given you can get a new monitor for around the $90 mark, spending 25% of that on a questionable adapter for your current screen is, IMHO, pouring useful money into what's at best a mediocre solution.

I recognise the budget issues. That's why I'm suggesting you consider dropping to a 1600X or 1600. That can save you $100. Add the $15-25 you would have spent on an adapter, and you can yourself a nice 23-24" IPS display. It's not going to be a professional editing display, but it should be close enough for someone starting out.
Here's an example of what you could get: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824009483

In terms of CPU taxed rendering, you can expect your render times to increase by about 25% vs the 1700. But you should also consider your productivity. I do a bit of amateur editing and I'm sure I can work significantly faster on a nice large display with all my tools available vs a 18.5" one. So that's the trade off.

RE Camtasia - a bit of Googling tells me that seems to use the GPU only for the preview Window. So GPU shouldn't really make much difference.
RE After Effects - I'm really not sure here. Does anyone else know? There seems to be a widely held view that Nvidia hardware works better with Adobe software, but I'm not aware of how accurate or up to date this view is.
This is all I could find with a quick search - suggesting a GTX 1060 is plenty - but there's no comparison to AMD: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-After-Effects-CC-2015-3-Pascal-GPU-Performance-846/

 

[Enerpi_0016]

Thank you for your answer. I'm using after effects and camtasia, but I keep studying other software too. For the monitor and SSD, I don't have a budget for them. Why did you say that my monitor is terrible? Will it not work in my GPU? And speaking of GPU, my other choice beside RX 480 is the gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB. Maybe I'll just buy a VGA to HDMI Converter but I'm not familiar with them so can you recommend a specific one? Thanks again

My apologies if I was a little blunt with the word "terrible".
But your video editing which benefits from a nice large display... bigger the better really.
AND, for any vaguely professional editing workflow you want a monitor with at least relatively accurate colours

Your monitor, unfortunately, is tiny at 18.5". I have no idea what the accuracy is like, but given its VGA only, it must be old and is probably not at all accurate. What I mean by that is that the colours you see on your screen are likely to be quite a bit different from the actual colours of the video, or what someone would see if they watched your video on a better calibrated display). So when you're editing, if you're adjusting colours for natural skin tones or bright flowers, for example, you can't really see what you're doing properly.

On top of that your monitor is that it's VGA (analogue) only, which will not work with the latest video cards have all given up on.
While you can buy an "active" adapter, that actually has to convert a digital signal into an analogue one. They can absolutely affect your image quality and its very difficult to find reviews on them to know which are good or not. Given you can get a new monitor for around the $90 mark, spending 25% of that on a questionable adapter for your current screen is, IMHO, pouring useful money into what's at best a mediocre solution.

I recognise the budget issues. That's why I'm suggesting you consider dropping to a 1600X or 1600. That can save you $100. Add the $15-25 you would have spent on an adapter, and you can yourself a nice 23-24" IPS display. It's not going to be a professional editing display, but it should be close enough for someone starting out.
Here's an example of what you could get: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824009483

In terms of CPU taxed rendering, you can expect your render times to increase by about 25% vs the 1700. But you should also consider your productivity. I do a bit of amateur editing and I'm sure I can work significantly faster on a nice large display with all my tools available vs a 18.5" one. So that's the trade off.

RE Camtasia - a bit of Googling tells me that seems to use the GPU only for the preview Window. So GPU shouldn't really make much difference.
RE After Effects - I'm really not sure here. Does anyone else know? There seems to be a widely held view that Nvidia hardware works better with Adobe software, but I'm not aware of how accurate or up to date this view is.
This is all I could find with a quick search - suggesting a GTX 1060 is plenty - but there's no comparison to AMD: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-After-Effects-CC-2015-3-Pascal-GPU-Performance-846/

You are really a proffesional when you speak I'll buy a monitor but not now, I need to save first before I can afford one. I'm just gonna force myself to use this old monitor. Thank you for all your opinions. Much appreciated. I'll just stick with 1700