Finally I'm Buying PC!!

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

I've posted a lot and it's finally come down to buying parts tonight. I retired my M17-R1 and its graphics cards, heatsink and crossfire cable sold on eBay last night. I have PRECISELY $565 and this is the build I came up with for what seems like best value for the money. I cannot stray from the $565 even by a single dollar but a lower price is also acceptable.

These parts are being ordered tonight or tomorrow night once the buyer on eBay has his payment authorized. What do you guys think of my build? Please post suggestions as I will be on Tom's very frequently tonight.

I am shy on money for RAM but I am using other RAM for a couple months. At the moment I only have four next gen games which are not CPU intensive so the old 1333MHz RAM I have should be suitable for now. I'm very eager to get the RAM for better performance and stability. I'm sure the adapter will suck.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MjBzwP

CPU- AAMD FX-8320 Vishera 8-Core 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo also will heavy overclock later)
MOBO- ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950
GPU- XFX Black Edition Double D Radeon R9 280 3GB (R9-280A-TDBD)
CASE- Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-03 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
PSU- EVGA Gold Rated 220-GS-0650-V1 650W (on Tier 1 of Tom's PSU List)
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ALREADY PURCHASED/OLD PARTS TO USE FOR ABOUT 2-3 MONTHS

RAM- (SO-DIMM via 204pin to 240pin Adapter) 8GB Crucial @1333MHz 7-7-7-24
HHD- 750GB Seagate Momentus XT HYBRID 4GB NAND Cache 7200rpm SATA III 6Gb/s w/ 32MB Buffer
HDD- (backup) 160GB Seagate Momentus SATA II 3Gb/s7200rpm
OPTICAL- Panasonic UJ-230 Slim Blu Ray Reader
DISPLAY- Optoma HD141X Full HD 1080p Full 3D 144Hz DLP Home Theater Projector
SOUND- Logitech Z313
MOUSE- Logitech G600
KEYBOARD- Logitech G105

In about 2-3 months I will have 16GB 1866MHz G.Skill Ripjaws RAM @9-9-9-28, a 1TB Samsung 850 EVO as main drive and a Cooler Master Nepton 240M Liquid Cooler for some good overclocking on the processor if needed.

What do you guys think so far? The big thing is harvesting the RAM. I tried sooooo hard to finagle 8GB of RAM in there and couldn't fit it into my budget, so I've decided to use my laptop RAM for a few weeks. I have Wolfenstein The New Order, Watch_Dogs, Metrol 2033 and Last Light Redux editions, and Battlefield 4. No rush to play em if you guys think I should wait.

I spent 9 hours trying to get every last bit of value out of this and this is all I could do.

I look forward to responses and builds.

The only Intel I could afford was the i5-4440 with a very iffy mobo but I felt strongly the FX-8320 had a little more value

I look forward to everyone's input.

 

[Aspiring techie]

I believe that it's impossible to use laptop RAM in a desktop. Everything else looks great. I don't see a way to improve upon it.

 

[Outlander_04]

I would avoid that M5A97 LE motherboard . Its a very limiting board if you intend to overclock
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970performance
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga970aud3p


The RAM adapter may well cause you problems

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

I believe that it's impossible to use laptop RAM in a desktop. Everything else looks great. I don't see a way to improve upon it.

there is an adapter http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009N7XX4Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3G3SQGWUPUX9W

the reviews say it works like normal RAM but the switches can be a pain. It's a temporary relief while I save up anyway

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

I understand. Looks like my eBay sale was a fluke. The man who bid and won marked everying as "paid" but never completed the checkout process and payment was not received. Unless it goes through I will have to wait on a PC. It may be best anyway to work another month. I waited two years for the laptop graphics cards to sell and it looks like it was a scammer

 

[TofuLion]

now, if it was me, i would go with something that could be made very high performance, with little upgrades. the FX series is dead. they don't perform as well as intel CPUs even with an overclock. if you went with the FX 8320 then you would be upgrading your cpu and motherboard very soon, so it doesn't make sense to start off with that. consider this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.64 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($202.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $469.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 22:02 EDT-0400

the price comes to $568.85 (i'm sure you can muster $3.85) before rebates. you get $85 in rebates and that's enough to buy a nice set of RAM or whatever else. it includes a pentium g3258 which is a dual core and probably not the best for long term, but it's only a place holder until you can recuperate your budget a bit and get something really nice like a 4690K. the g3258 is a very nice overclocker, and you should be able to get over 4.2 GHz just on the stock cooler. while only a dual core, it's single core performance rivals even the 4790K at equal clocks, and it should be sufficient for what you need right now.

the psu is very high quality, and would allow plenty of headroom for overclocking, crossfire, tons of storage drive, etc. and not even come close to reaching its limit.

the case is much nicer and will prove to come in handy when you are doing upgrades and tinkering.

and the z97 is supposed to actually support the next generation of broadwell CPUs, which will give you more options when upgrading your CPU in the future.

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

now, if it was me, i would go with something that could be made very high performance, with little upgrades. the FX series is dead. they don't perform as well as intel CPUs even with an overclock. if you went with the FX 8320 then you would be upgrading your cpu and motherboard very soon, so it doesn't make sense to start off with that. consider this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.64 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($202.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $469.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 22:02 EDT-0400

the price comes to $568.85 (i'm sure you can muster $3.85) before rebates. you get $85 in rebates and that's enough to buy a nice set of RAM or whatever else. it includes a pentium g3258 which is a dual core and probably not the best for long term, but it's only a place holder until you can recuperate your budget a bit and get something really nice like a 4690K. the g3258 is a very nice overclocker, and you should be able to get over 4.2 GHz just on the stock cooler. while only a dual core, it's single core performance rivals even the 4790K at equal clocks, and it should be sufficient for what you need right now.

the psu is very high quality, and would allow plenty of headroom for overclocking, crossfire, tons of storage drive, etc. and not even come close to reaching its limit.

the case is much nicer and will prove to come in handy when you are doing upgrades and tinkering.

and the z97 is supposed to actually support the next generation of broadwell CPUs, which will give you more options when upgrading your CPU in the future.

Oh hi Tofu! You helped me yesterday with the 1300W G1 vs 100W P2! Yeah, my thoughts were to buy cheap now or save for a while and get something epic. If this eBay sale falls through then I'll save for something epic I guess like what I posted on the other thread.

The problem with a dual core is I can't do any next gen and my half-busted laptop works enough still to play current gen, so it'd be more of a money and time saver to deal with the issues of my retired laptop. Since my eBay sale looks like it is falling through I may be pulling my M17-R1 out of the grave for a couple more months. I admit a small part of me wanted to stay away from all AMD CPU's and even get a 980ti but I often wonder if computers are a vice for me, hence, I was going to try to go cheap. I had an i7-2600K with 2x 2GB 6950's in CF and wasn't happy with it at all. My thoughts are then I should go all out to satisfy my lust or go bare minimum for next gen and just be thankful I can max out PC games for a couple more years. We'll see what happens. I have two days left for this jagaloon to pay up or I'll have to cancel his winning bid and just relist my item

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

now, if it was me, i would go with something that could be made very high performance, with little upgrades. the FX series is dead. they don't perform as well as intel CPUs even with an overclock. if you went with the FX 8320 then you would be upgrading your cpu and motherboard very soon, so it doesn't make sense to start off with that. consider this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.64 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($202.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $469.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 22:02 EDT-0400

the price comes to $568.85 (i'm sure you can muster $3.85) before rebates. you get $85 in rebates and that's enough to buy a nice set of RAM or whatever else. it includes a pentium g3258 which is a dual core and probably not the best for long term, but it's only a place holder until you can recuperate your budget a bit and get something really nice like a 4690K. the g3258 is a very nice overclocker, and you should be able to get over 4.2 GHz just on the stock cooler. while only a dual core, it's single core performance rivals even the 4790K at equal clocks, and it should be sufficient for what you need right now.

the psu is very high quality, and would allow plenty of headroom for overclocking, crossfire, tons of storage drive, etc. and not even come close to reaching its limit.

the case is much nicer and will prove to come in handy when you are doing upgrades and tinkering.

and the z97 is supposed to actually support the next generation of broadwell CPUs, which will give you more options when upgrading your CPU in the future.

what is the cheapest dual core CPU + mobo + GPU you can possibly recommend. I would buy now then upgrade in 6-8 months to X99 (which is what I wanted all along). I only need enough juice to play last gen games like Metro 2033, Mass Effect, Path of Exile (etc) which my old 512MB 3870 can do alone without crossfire. Problem with my old laptop is its driver are over 3 years out of date and struggles playing flash and doing html5 (etc). Mobo was dying too so BSoDs happened all the time.

I'm aiming for well under $400 including RAM. The PSU and Case will be the only things that carry over to the next build so those should be top notch for a $1500 rig. Keep in mind I already have a lot of PC parts which can be replaced over time as well (so no need to buy them at this very moment)

 

[Outlander_04]

There are NO circumstances under which the intel pentium is a better idea than the AMD FX .

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

There are NO circumstances under which the intel pentium is a better idea than the AMD FX .

for previous gen a dual core at 2.8GHz was ample for me for 50+ games in my library. As I was saying to TofuLion, if I can't get this sale to go through then it means I either don't buy a new computer at all, or I buy a previous gen crap one and then upgrade. I would only expect the Case and PSU to be very nice since those would carry over. My laptop is dead and I suddenly sold my working GPUs from my laptop but the bidder who won might refuse to pay. I'd do anything to get rid of this laptop. Basically anything is better than it. SO I was thinking of getting a really s!@$#tty computer then upgrading later when I start work again and get something very nice next gen in 6 months. My laptop at the moment is so god-forsakingly dead that I can't run YouTube videos. The mobo and adapter simply aren't worth the money and I want to jump into desktop gaming now. It's only a matter of time before I get what I want but how I get there matters. Dealing with a broken laptop for 6 more months is not worth saving the $50 for a dual core CPU and mobo I know I'm just going to throw out

 

[TofuLion]

There are NO circumstances under which the intel pentium is a better idea than the AMD FX .

if you're only going to look at certain facts and not take anything else into consideration, you shouldn't respond to topics which require insight into the OP's wants and needs. it doesn't make sense to spend over $200 on a cpu+mobo alone when it will be replaced soon and only needs to satisfy for the time being. especially not when you can get an entire rig for around the same price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $273.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 23:21 EDT-0400

this would be the best way to spend the money, as far as cpu+mobo+ram+gpu if they will be discarded/re-purposed in a short time. that total does NOT include the price of a nice case and PSU. if you're curious about the choice of cpu+mobo, there is a review
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-cheap-overclocking,3888.html

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

There are NO circumstances under which the intel pentium is a better idea than the AMD FX .

if you're only going to look at certain facts and not take anything else into consideration, you shouldn't respond to topics which require insight into the OP's wants and needs. it doesn't make sense to spend over $200 on a cpu+mobo alone when it will be replaced soon and only needs to satisfy for the time being. especially not when you can get an entire rig for around the same price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $273.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 23:21 EDT-0400

this would be the best way to spend the money, as far as cpu+mobo+ram+gpu if they will be discarded/re-purposed in a short time. that total does NOT include the price of a nice case and PSU. if you're curious about the choice of cpu+mobo, there is a review
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-cheap-overclocking,3888.html

Thanks for sticking up for me a little there Tofu, this whole process has been horrible. Is there any way to place my laptop mobo with everything plugged into it into a desktop? My laptop power adapter is the root of the issues, so I was wondering if there were any Laptop to PSU Converters/Inverters/Adapters? My laptop is 350W under load and 95W idling (a power guzzlers) so I don't think a PSU would undervolt or anything. I just can't seem to google this without getting mixed results from other typical searches

 

[TofuLion]

would a new power adapter solve the issue? if not, something like this is very cheap and wont game very well if at all, but would be something rather than nothing.
http://www.gamestop.com/pc/pc-hardware/samsung-chromebook/114262?cid=fds_10000001&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=110993&gclid=CjwKEAjwtYSsBRCDx6rM1v_uqmsSJAAZgf2q9Z-DbhbCAr2U3TRCEt81nC8JjXOr2Jf8mSpRgsw5_BoCC3bw_wcB

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

would a new power adapter solve the issue? if not, something like this is very cheap and wont game very well if at all, but would be something rather than nothing.
http://www.gamestop.com/pc/pc-hardware/samsung-chromebook/114262?cid=fds_10000001&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=110993&gclid=CjwKEAjwtYSsBRCDx6rM1v_uqmsSJAAZgf2q9Z-DbhbCAr2U3TRCEt81nC8JjXOr2Jf8mSpRgsw5_BoCC3bw_wcB

I can actually repair my laptop hinge for $12 http://www.ztronics.com/parts-by-brand/alienware/alienware-m17-r1/alienware-m9700-m9750-m17-r1-lcd-hinge-set.html

And fix the black screens with a new Power Adapter here http://www.amazon.com/adapter-Original-Alienware-Dell-Precision/dp/B00A076OEO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1434600714&sr=8-3&keywords=m17-r1+adapter+240w

The blue screens would not stop though since those happen from 3 year old graphics drivers

I found an adapter like the one above for $65 but I just have to ask myself what's the point, when I will have a new computer within 6 months. I can alraedy get a new dual core PC right now with the $500 I have and screw the credit card nonsense. I just wanna be smart about all of this, and wasting $80 on a laptop I'm going to junk soon seems silly when I know it will easily provide me non-gaming needs for half a year.

It's just all so frustrating. I made a thread elsewhere trying to see if there was a way to power a laptop with a desktop PSU, in which case I'd just do that to save that $65 sinfe I need a new PSU anyway, but I could find nothing except test bench batteries which were $1400 or more and did not seem like a means to power a laptop anyway. I also have to face the fact that my laptop is 19.5v and there is no such connection on a PSU ecept 3v, 5v, 12, and -12v which would be another hurdle even though my laptop output is as high as 240w11a

 

[TofuLion]

actually, after some consideration, an APU would serve your purposes for a "throw-away" computer very nicely. doesn't offer the best performance, but is very cheap and has good performance for the price. and the kicker is you need high speed RAM for it to function well, which would be a nice carry-over for your next build (assuming you go with a DDR3 platform).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-DS2H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $341.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-18 00:12 EDT-0400

the APU has strong integrated graphics and therefore eliminates the need for a graphics card altogether. the R5 is a very nice case; i have the R4 and the only regret i have about buying it is that the R5 came out just a month or two after i bought it. the base total is 381.85 and then there's $40 rebates. the EVGA B2 750 watt is enough to power a 295X2 or even 980 ti SLI.

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

actually, after some consideration, an APU would serve your purposes for a "throw-away" computer very nicely. doesn't offer the best performance, but is very cheap and has good performance for the price. and the kicker is you need high speed RAM for it to function well, which would be a nice carry-over for your next build (assuming you go with a DDR3 platform).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-DS2H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $341.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-18 00:12 EDT-0400

the APU has strong integrated graphics and therefore eliminates the need for a graphics card altogether. the R5 is a very nice case; i have the R4 and the only regret i have about buying it is that the R5 came out just a month or two after i bought it. the base total is 381.85 and then there's $40 rebates. the EVGA B2 750 watt is enough to power a 295X2 or even 980 ti SLI.

Nice, yeah I had considered that too last night. The A4 has the 8760G so I'd be able to do my blu rays and even play path of exile. I'm gonna do what you said except roll with a Phanteks Enthoo Pro since it comes with a 140mm fan in rear and an awesome 200mm fan as the front intake. That's a beast deal for $90

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

actually, after some consideration, an APU would serve your purposes for a "throw-away" computer very nicely. doesn't offer the best performance, but is very cheap and has good performance for the price. and the kicker is you need high speed RAM for it to function well, which would be a nice carry-over for your next build (assuming you go with a DDR3 platform).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-DS2H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $341.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-18 00:12 EDT-0400

the APU has strong integrated graphics and therefore eliminates the need for a graphics card altogether. the R5 is a very nice case; i have the R4 and the only regret i have about buying it is that the R5 came out just a month or two after i bought it. the base total is 381.85 and then there's $40 rebates. the EVGA B2 750 watt is enough to power a 295X2 or even 980 ti SLI.

After 5 years of looking, I finally found the ONLY graphics card upgrade for my laptop too
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alienware-M17-R1-4850m-4850-MXM-Type-HE-1GB-ATI-Master-Laptop-Video-Card-40GAB04-/111453611313?

And the jerk has this 8 year old upgrade listed for the same price as a PS4. What a joke. I hope the GPU explodes in the guy's face as soon as someone bids on it

 

[Outlander_04]

There are NO circumstances under which the intel pentium is a better idea than the AMD FX .

if you're only going to look at certain facts and not take anything else into consideration, you shouldn't respond to topics which require insight into the OP's wants and needs. it doesn't make sense to spend over $200 on a cpu+mobo alone when it will be replaced soon and only needs to satisfy for the time being. especially not when you can get an entire rig for around the same price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $273.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 23:21 EDT-0400

this would be the best way to spend the money, as far as cpu+mobo+ram+gpu if they will be discarded/re-purposed in a short time. that total does NOT include the price of a nice case and PSU. if you're curious about the choice of cpu+mobo, there is a review
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-cheap-overclocking,3888.html

The pentium is a poor processor , the mb is incredibly weak
Neither can be the basis of a good powerful gaming computer .

Buying the AMD board and chip now will do both of those things since game performance will be identical to the hardware you suggest he upgrades to sometime in the future .
The one with no insight might be you

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

Moderators may feel free to close this thread please before it gets out of hand. My questions were resolved very well by TofuLion! I can contact him over private message if I have more needs for advice! Thanks!

 

[TofuLion]

While I personally wouldn't wish harm on another person, I share your sentiment. People will take advantage of each other when they have the opportunity to do so. It just isn't right, though it is natural.

But back to the actual issue, the enthoo pro would be my second recommendation with the Corsair 750D just behind. The r5 is what I would go for, but case is always a personal preference so I won't make an argument. As long as we have your issue solved.

The psu you could probably go bigger with, I was just trying to keep your budget at a minimum while keeping quality maximum. 750 would be working harder than comfortable with 980 ti SLI, but not to the point where it was unbearable.

 

[TofuLion]

Outlander is just mad that his fx 6300 doesn't perform as well as an intel cpu and it makes him angry when other people want to buy adequate CPUs sorry that was out of line but I'm noticing a trend with this guy...

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

While I personally wouldn't wish harm on another person, I share your sentiment. People will take advantage of each other when they have the opportunity to do so. It just isn't right, though it is natural.

But back to the actual issue, the enthoo pro would be my second recommendation with the Corsair 750D just behind. The r5 is what I would go for, but case is always a personal preference so I won't make an argument. As long as we have your issue solved.

The psu you could probably go bigger with, I was just trying to keep your budget at a minimum while keeping quality maximum. 750 would be working harder than comfortable with 980 ti, but not to the point where it was unbearable.

If you had to make a list of let's say 6-7 of the very best deals for Full-tower cases and Mid-tower cases (that can fit a 280mm rad without problems), what would they be?

Based on what you said #1) Fractal Design R5 #2) Enthoo Pro #3) 750D, what might 3-4 others be? I like mid towers too but would choose a full tower for future-sake since rads can be really iffy to fit between one mid-tower and another even when the specs say they can fit 280mm rads (reviews often say they can fit one but not others). That's the only hangup I have for mid-towers.

I originally wanted the 750D because it's so well organized but the enthoo has the same basic layout and functionality but allows for a 200m front fan so it'd be quieter and cheaper.

I like the looks of NZXT cases but they have those stupid grills on the front and top that block fans which is ridiculous

 

[CmdrJeffSinclair]

Outlander is just mad that his fx 6300 doesn't perform as well as an intl cpu and it makes him angry when other people want to buy adequate CPUs sorry that was out of line but I'm noticing a trend with this guy...

hahaha troll the troll will probably scare him off lol. I've seen funnier things happen. Typically a troll will quickly cause a forum to get totally vulgar and then get closed. I marked you down to PM you in case that happens since I dunno who the moderator is at this time of night!

 

[TofuLion]

While I personally wouldn't wish harm on another person, I share your sentiment. People will take advantage of each other when they have the opportunity to do so. It just isn't right, though it is natural.

But back to the actual issue, the enthoo pro would be my second recommendation with the Corsair 750D just behind. The r5 is what I would go for, but case is always a personal preference so I won't make an argument. As long as we have your issue solved.

The psu you could probably go bigger with, I was just trying to keep your budget at a minimum while keeping quality maximum. 750 would be working harder than comfortable with 980 ti, but not to the point where it was unbearable.

If you had to make a list of let's say 6-7 of the very best deals for Full-tower cases and Mid-tower cases (that can fit a 280mm rad without problems), what would they be?

Based on what you said #1) Fractal Design R5 #2) Enthoo Pro #3) 750D, what might 3-4 others be? I like mid towers too but would choose a full tower for future-sake since rads can be really iffy to fit between one mid-tower and another even when the specs say they can fit 280mm rads (reviews often say they can fit one but not others). That's the only hangup I have for mid-towers.

I originally wanted the 750D because it's so well organized but the enthoo has the same basic layout and functionality but allows for a 200m front fan so it'd be quieter and cheaper.

I like the looks of NZXT cases but they have those stupid grills on the front and top that block fans which is ridiculous

instead of me recommending you a good case, other than the top 3, i will ask someone who i have debated with and has more knowledge and insight. darkbreeze has a strong opinion on cases in particular (among other things) and also happens to be a moderator (i think this is a recently acquired title). in any case, i'm sure he can help.

 

[Saga Lout]

Trawling through this lot to see who, if anyone, is a Troll is useless - it might just turn out to be all of you.

Two companies makes chips- one is Intel the other is AMD - get used to it and make your own choice because no-one will ever win this argument.

Thread closing.