News Fire Sale? Amazon Flooded With Dodgy, 16-Pin GPU Power Adapters

[Admin]

A slew of dodgy 16-pin 12VHPWR cables have proliferated at online markets, and manufacturers provide little to no information about their custom adapters, cables, and converters.

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[DookieDraws]

Hard to believe the massive amount of cheap and dangerous Chinese JUNK Amazon allows to be sold on it's platform. It's crazy.

 

[vanadiel007]

If only we had an existing connector that is widely adopted then we... oh wait.

 

[TJ Hooker]

If only we had an existing connector that is widely adopted then we... oh wait.

Don't worry, even if 12VHPWR never existed people would still be buying janky 6/8 pin cables, molex/SATA to 6/8 pin adapters, 6 pin to 8 pin adapters, 6/8 pin splitters, etc.

 

[USAFRet]

Don't worry, even if 12VHPWR never existed people would still be buying janky molex/SATA to PCIe adapters, 6 to 8 pin adapters, 6/8 pin splitters, etc., in an attempt to run graphics cards their PSU isn't suitable for.

"No it doesn't but i got sata connection cables,iam taking about the power calculation,will this power supply be able to make it?"

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[g-unit1111]

Hard to believe the massive amount of cheap and dangerous Chinese JUNK Amazon allows to be sold on it's platform. It's crazy.

Even worse is that Amazon 3rd party sellers have zero accountability. I've been burned several times by them and I go out of my way to make sure that I don't buy anything from them.

Just don't buy cheap garbage. Even things like power cables, you get what you pay for.

 

[DookieDraws]

Even worse is that Amazon 3rd party sellers have zero accountability. I've been burned several times by them and I go out of my way to make sure that I don't buy anything from them.

Just don't buy cheap garbage. Even things like power cables, you get what you pay for.

Yep! It's a shame! Disgusting, actually.

 

[ilukey77]

Even worse is that Amazon 3rd party sellers have zero accountability. I've been burned several times by them and I go out of my way to make sure that I don't buy anything from them.

Just don't buy cheap garbage. Even things like power cables, you get what you pay for.

this is the problem PC gamers/ builders are becoming more and more disillusioned with the ever increasing cost of games and PC components !!

Take these forums for instance i scour here every day or 2 looking to see if i can impart some of my knowledge on building pc's to other users and i see many threads of ive got this much what can i get for it??

so people by default often skimp on that better PSU or something else important because there budget doesnt allow them that better gpu or cpu ..

so these dodgy 3rd party sellers profit off an already expensive and increasing market by way of cheaper crappy products !!

 

[Li Ken-un]

By now, isn’t it well publicized enough that anyone purchasing a 12VHPWR cable should know what they are getting into? I don’t know if a viable market exists where buyers of graphics cards with 12VHPWR connectors, who do not have native 12VHPWR PSUs, and are totally ignorant of the power connector issues intersect.

Surely, the low pricing is mighty tempting. But those who could afford a video card with 12VHPWR wouldn’t be swayed by low prices alone? The risk is too great and the reward is too low for that.

 

[TJ Hooker]

The first 12VHPWR connectors clearly weren't ideal, necessitating a newer 12V-2x6 spec that improves the thermal and electrical characteristics.

No. The only thing the newer 12V-2x6 spec changes is how far the sense pins stick out relative to the power pins. Meaning that, unless the connector is improperly seated, there is no difference between the older 12VHPWR and the newer 12V-2x6.

 

[razor512]

They should just go back to the 8 pin PCIe power connectors. They are essentially over-provisioned by nearly 50% in terms of power handling capability, thus it takes a lot of mistakes before the connector ends up melting.

Or they should redesign the connector to be effectively 2 bus bars that slot into the card.

Or take a page out of older connector designs and add some screw retention posts to either side of the cable.
That type of retention mechanism has proven itself to handle abuse. Why not use add them to the new power connectors so that they do not come loose even as a user does cable management?

 

[froggx]

They should just go back to the 8 pin PCIe power connectors. They are essentially over-provisioned by nearly 50% in terms of power handling capability, thus it takes a lot of mistakes before the connector ends up melting.

Or they should redesign the connector to be effectively 2 bus bars that slot into the card.

Or take a page out of older connector designs and add some screw retention posts to either side of the cable.
That type of retention mechanism has proven itself to handle abuse. Why not use add them to the new power connectors so that they do not come loose even as a user does cable management?

i had a tendency to not tighten those retention screws all the way since tightening and loosening that kind of thing felt like "lots of work." and that was for cables outside of the case, seems like it would only exacerbate the issue in a more space constrained install environment. haven't seen those since VGA/DVI connectors, where i've seen more than case where someone forgot to disconnect the cable, went to move their monitor to another location, and dragged their entire desktop onto the floor in the process.

gotta love a name like "fire sale" for an article about distributing cables known to melt.

 

[edzieba]

They should just go back to the 8 pin PCIe power connectors. They are essentially over-provisioned by nearly 50% in terms of power handling capability, thus it takes a lot of mistakes before the connector ends up melting.

Or they should redesign the connector to be effectively 2 bus bars that slot into the card.

Or take a page out of older connector designs and add some screw retention posts to either side of the cable.
That type of retention mechanism has proven itself to handle abuse. Why not use add them to the new power connectors so that they do not come loose even as a user does cable management?

Those retention screws were always perfect for casually applying the force needed to crush the pins within a slightly misaligned connector.

 

[PEnns]

Fire Sale? Amazon Flooded With Dodgy, 16-Pin GPU Power Adapters​

Where the "Fire" in the title is a perfect pun......😉

 

[TechLurker]

They could have also just gone with 8-pin EPS power cables; those supported even more power than the 8-pin PCIe cables, and some PSUs also had a second or even third EPS plug and cable set for high-end mobos that had 12, 16, or more EPS plugs for extreme OC'ing (mainly ASUS mobos and some Xeon/Threadripper mobos). There's even a few PSUs that have dual-mode VGA/EPS connectors, just different cabling. So the precedent was already there to make more use of the EPS standard and either supplement or replace the PCIe standard.

 

[uwhusky1991]

Hard to believe the massive amount of cheap and dangerous Chinese JUNK Amazon allows to be sold on it's platform. It's crazy.

This is the absolute worst thing about Amazon. I don't understand why Amazon isn't held responsible for allowing 3rd parties to rip off customers.

 

[vanadiel007]

This is the absolute worst thing about Amazon. I don't understand why Amazon isn't held responsible for allowing 3rd parties to rip off customers.

Profit is why. Anything to generate revenue. It's not just Amazon who does this, other retailers like Bestbuy and Newegg also allow dodgy third party sales on their platform, often with a huge markup.

Remember the video card scalpers and how they ran rampant on these platforms with zero consequences?

It's all about revenue and money, they could not care less about their customer base or customer experience.

 

[uwhusky1991]

Profit is why. Anything to generate revenue. It's not just Amazon who does this, other retailers like Bestbuy and Newegg also allow dodgy third party sales on their platform, often with a huge markup.

Remember the video card scalpers and how they ran rampant on these platforms with zero consequences?

It's all about revenue and money, they could not care less about their customer base or customer experience.

Totally agree. They are profiting and there are no consequences. I just wonder when there will be consequences like a massive class action lawsuit, or how about this crazy idea, an alternative!

 

[pf100]

They should just go back to the 8 pin PCIe power connectors. They are essentially over-provisioned by nearly 50% in terms of power handling capability, thus it takes a lot of mistakes before the connector ends up melting.

Going back to 8 pin connectors would require that Jensen admit that he was wrong. I don't think we should be thinking of ourselves during this time but instead consider the damage to his ego if this were to occur.

 

[atomicWAR]

I saw mention of moddiy wires for which I own two 12vhpwr soft silicone wires for the wife and me, though I got them directly from their own store.
They are actually pretty dang good. BUT they don't do the best at making their higher end specs easily searchable (on any models) plus more alarmingly they do have some products like 3 by 8pin to 12vhpwr that say they're 600 watts that are complete garbage. All they had to say is the truth was 450w and it be fine with the internal connectors they use (no dimples here on any models, good wire). You have to research your cables for the 12vhpwr pin connectors and even if you get it all right, you might end up with a dead gpu. Options aren't good right now and Amazon sold wires are not where I would start.