Firewire card chipsets

[Dark Star Balla]

I'm running 2 RME Fireface 800 audio interfaces. I need a PCIe firewire 800 card TI chipset but nothing in the 2200 series of texas instruments chipsets. Problem is it seems every card I find is either 2200/2213. Making my search extremely difficult actually seemingly impossible. Can anyone point me in the direction of a 1394 B TI PCIe card not in the 2200 series?? BTW.. My MB is an Asus P8Z77‑V LK, win 10 64

 

[Mark RM]

First off, by eliminating those cards with those controllers you're eliminating all Ti PCIe chips. The rest of their chips are PCI.

RME says those products work fine with those chips and that those cards don't even consume enough bandwidth to saturate a single 400 link.

Anyhow, either you find the mythical unicorn - a PCI based Ti chip card that someone has put a bridge chip on and then adapted to PCIe (they did used to make those, that was the only PCIe solution from Ti prior to their 2000 series) or think about using a LSI/Agere FW643 based card.

The problem with using a PCI based card in a modern rig is you'd be routing everything through the "south bridge" , not natively connected to the CPU. Same issue if you do manage to find an older Ti chipset card with a PCie bridge chip, the bridge chip also adds latency.

 

[Dark Star Balla]

I apologize I misunderstood their reply. It's the 2200 A series that causes problems with their hardware. So I guess I just have to search for Firewire 800 2200B series.

 

[Mark RM]

Any card based on that 2213 has the updates that remove the errata that was causing problems. That way you don't have to figure out which revision of the 2200 is actually on the card.

 

[Dark Star Balla]

So the card I have in now is the Syba SY-PEX30016 it is the card causing me issues and it's a 1394B.

 

[Mark RM]

I think I'm getting confused a little....

It's the chip that caused the problems, not the interface. 1394B is not the issue, the RME supports 1394B.

The TI XIO2213A has a jitter problem, the TI XIO2213B does not but you're saying the TI XIO2213B is causing problems? (I mean if it is, it is, I'm not saying your wrong).

Anyhow, the FW643 is on the approved list of interface cards for all Firestudio products.

Startech part is PEX1394B3

 

[Dark Star Balla]

Yea, The chip is the issue is what RME is telling me. I am having jitter problems. I have 2 Fireface 800's and am having jitter problems. They didn't start until I connected the 2nd unit. My red host light is flashing on both about every 20 seconds or so.

 

[Mark RM]

I see what's going on there, as soon as you move beyond 96KHz things go to hell. And there are stickies about NOT using the card that's on their recommended list in the PDF that I mentioned above. Why they don't take that PDF down i don't know.
TI XIO2213B
after reading this thread here https://www.forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=23876

People are targeting cards with the TI XIO2213B as being good to use. there are a few cards using that chipset, syba's part number for that card is PEX30016

This driver works with windows 10 too apparently for correct support
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2970191/firewire-port-based-device-does-not-work-correctly-in-windows-8-1-or-w

That's all the help I can offer on this I think.