First budget gaming build Amd fx 4100,will it run all games on high?

[amd guy101]

Hey guys, i just wanted to know if this build I'm about to do in 2 weeks will be good enough for gaming. My budget is $ 770 and i want to play games on my 48 inch HDTV.I'm getting a AMD FX 4100 with a Radeon HD 6850, NO overclocking will be done on this build or two GPUs.I'm getting the FX 4100 because it's cheap and fast and later this year i want to upgrade to the new fixed versions of the AMD Bulldozer CPU's AMD will release later this year.

So, will this build I'm about to get be good enough to get 30 to 60 fps on games(Crysis 2 Battlefield 3 Arma 2 ect.) with high/ultra settings for at least a year until AMD releases the fixed Dozers ?

Here are the components:

AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996


GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519

SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908


CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345


CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020


Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767


SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

 

[termhn]

^ +10

 

[somekidxd]

6850 won't run high/ultra on BF3 in multiplayer, you need something like a GTX 560ti.

 

[fistoffoo]

6850 won't run high/ultra on BF3 in multiplayer, you need something like a GTX 560ti.

Nothing will run BF3 perfectly on Ultra even high.

 

[amd guy101]

6850 won't run high/ultra on BF3 in multiplayer, you need something like a GTX 560ti.

Nothing will run BF3 perfectly on Ultra even high.

Well I'm not trying to go ultra or super high settings on every game but i do want to run at a good high setting with good fps, no meduim or low.Can the Radeon 6850 do that cause that's all I'm really looking for at the moment ? Or do i need a 6950 ? I'm trying to go with a Radeon.

 

[termhn]

I meant to +10 that, so ^ +10

 

[fistoffoo]

Well I'm not trying to go ultra or super high settings on every game but i do want to run at a good high setting with good fps, no meduim or low.Can the Radeon 6850 do that cause that's all I'm really looking for at the moment ? Or do i need a 6950 ? I'm trying to go with a Radeon.

6850 overclocks like a Boss from what I have seen and in some games it achieves GTX 570 performance when OCed on the Msi Cyclone model.

 

[amd guy101]

FX-4100 will be your downfall...
965BE - 980BE is worth the extra coin..

I hope not but i will keep all options on the table until i put this together but the FX just doesn't seem that bad for what I'm gonna be doing with it and how long i will have it.I wish i would have just got the 965BE last year.

 

[amd guy101]

6850 overclocks like a Boss from what I have seen and in some games it achieves GTX 570 performance when OCed on the Msi Cyclone model.

Nice, will take a look at the Msi one.

 

[fistoffoo]

AMD's hopes rest within Piledriver.
May you pray hard..

and the HD 6850 doesn't not match the GTX 570 when clocked.
more of the GTX 560 Ti level.

I seen this one Msi Cyclone I was looking at as an upgrade from my 4890HD. Its a good card for playing Crysis on http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_r6850_cyclone/7.htm

 

[zloginet]

Also, if you look at this article:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120.html

It shows that even the Pentium G860 outperforms the FX4100 AND FX6100. Therefore, I recommend spending the extra $15 and getting the core i3 2120, which outperforms EVERY AMD CPU under $200 in games, which you'll also see in that article. Currently, AMD just isn't up to par in the desktop gaming world.

AMD isn't up to par in the desktop gaming world. Then why am I getting between 70 and 120 in ultra on BF3? Why do I average 100+ in Dirt3 and Crysis 2 plays like the old Cysis on my machine. If you put my machine up against whatever intel machine it will feel the same exact unless you do your stupid benchmarks...

Stop comparing Hyundai With BMW and start comparing Cadillac with BMW... IF this guy can grab a X4 970 with a 6950, he will be averaging almost 40fps in every game... Pretty good for AMD

 

[zloginet]

Nothing will run BF3 perfectly on Ultra even high.

I average I think 82ish on Ultra Between 70ish and 120ish...

 

[fistoffoo]

I average I think 82ish on Ultra Between 70ish and 120ish...

I have BD and I am happy with it.

 

[fistoffoo]

you'd be happier without it...

Who are you to say what is good for me have you owned BD 8150 you sound like a subjective salesmen starving for a commission.

 

[zloginet]

I have BD and I am happy with it.

Curious why you quoted me?

 

[fistoffoo]

Cause I to am happy with BD I love it !

 

[palladin9479]

I hope not but i will keep all options on the table until i put this together but the FX just doesn't seem that bad for what I'm gonna be doing with it and how long i will have it.I wish i would have just got the 965BE last year.

You really have to learn to spot and ignore the fanboys, they won't even acknowledge the other side's accomplishments, kinda like Apple zealots.

I can't really recommend the FX line of CPU's though, their performance is sketchy most of the time. In games it doesn't matter much, you really have to monkey with the settings to make them unplayable. Otherwise for the money their not really the best in most cases.

You'll still be able to play all your games on the fx4100, although I'd recommend going with the 6100 if possible. Get a 965 or 970BE if their available, you'd get better overall performance but your on a limited budget.

 

[zloginet]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/Averages.png

^^^ stupid...... My friend has a 2600K @ 5.0 and we put my 7970 in it to find out what all happens. We found out benchmarks made the only difference. His in game experience was the same as mine in terms of being well well over 60fps...

 

[fistoffoo]

Apple zealots he says LOL

 

[zloginet]

You really have to learn to spot and ignore the fanboys, they won't even acknowledge the other side's accomplishments, kinda like Apple zealots.

I can't really recommend the FX line of CPU's though, their performance is sketchy most of the time. In games it doesn't matter much, you really have to money with the settings to make them unplayable. Otherwise for the money their not really the best in most cases.

You'll still be able to play all your games on the fx4100, although I'd recommend going with the 6100 if possible. Get a 965 or 970BE if their available, you'd get better overall performance but your on a limited budget.

I totally agree with you... Stay away from the FX line... hit up the Phenom II 970, 1000t be series, or find a way to go with intel...

 

[drevas]

Awesome ! What kind of GPU did you have with the FX 4100 ? And were you able to play games on high/ultra without any probs ?

I just did a build with the FX 4100, 8GB of AMD Branded Patriot Memory, and a 6850 GPU running on a cheap Gigabyte 740 board. I have it oc'd to 4.2 on stock air and am running Win7 Pro. Have had NO problems. Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 all run great and the build was dirt cheap.

 

[fistoffoo]

+1^

 

[zloginet]

I just did a build with the FX 4100, 8GB of AMD Branded Patriot Memory, and a 6850 GPU running on a cheap Gigabyte 740 board. I have it oc'd to 4.2 on stock air and am running Win7 Pro. Have had NO problems. Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 all run great and the build was dirt cheap.

Nothing wrong with that at all... Good build... Just curious your res and settings on those games.... Skyrim I see the only problem as it is very cpu bound... The others anything can run...

 

[fistoffoo]

Actually Skyrim plays much better now after patch 1.4 and Metro play like crap on all rigs.

 

[fistoffoo]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/image007.png

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/image008.png

really.?

Dont know what the Hotfix means but those are old charts you have posted mate cause the patch 1.4 gets better performance than that.

 

[termhn]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Would you look at that, at standard clock speed, the high pentium beat out the 8150... Not a fanboy, I'm just going by the bench. I agree, though, it's not like you can tell very much the difference between 45 and 60 fps unless you're an avid gamer and played both for a while.