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DaveClydesdale

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Hi all.

I have decided to build my own PC for the first time and would appreciate some advice on my component choices.

I will be using it for Unity game development, Blender 3D rendering and eventually Unreal Engine development as well as some casual gaming, so it will need some graphical and processing power.

I live in Spain and would like to keep my budget to around €1500.

Here are the components I am currently looking at:

CPU: i7-11700
GPU: RTX 3060 12gb
RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3600MH (2x16gb)
Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212
SSD: 1TB m.2 (Samsung 980 MZ-V8V1T0BW)
Mobo: Asus PRIME B660M-K D4
PSU: Nox Urano VX 750W 80+ Bronze
Case: Undecided just yet, open to suggestions! I'm thinking something kind of minimal but with some lights.

These components plus a Windows license would cost pretty much exactly what I was hoping to spend.

I did a bottleneck calculation on the CPU and GPU and they appear to be perfectly matched - 0% bottleneck at 1080p.

As I mentioned previously - I have never created my own build before and am not super knowledgable regarding my options, so if anybody has any alternatives for anything on the list which are in similar price ranges but may offer better performance I'd live to hear them. Any advice or recommendations at all would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks in advance,
Dave
 
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DaveClydesdale

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System won't work as built. Motherboard and CPU are not compatible.

I'll put something together.
Hey Eximo. Thanks so much for the quick response!

Yeah, I should have said - the mobo and the PSU especially I have no clue about! I just added that mobo as a friend recently build a PC for a similar purpose and he used that one, but he had a different CPU.

Many thanks,
Dave
 

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This should do, maybe a little too much RGB. Added an extra RGB fan in case you wanted to swap out the visible CPU cooler fan. Water cooling with a Corsair iCue compatible AIO is also an option, but it will push you closer to 1600.

i7-12700, 8 cores + 4 Efficiency cores and the next generation up. Missing on board graphics, you can add that back in
PCIe 4.0 SSD to go with the PCIe 4.0 capable board and CPU.

Motherboard includes WiFi which you may not need. We can also opt for a full ATX board with more features.

Case is somewhat large, and bigger than the motherboard needs. But includes RGB fans and a controller. There are Micro ATX versions we could downsize to. Sticking with Corsair for the RGB should keep the necessary software tools to a minimum.

Shiny EVGA 3060, slightly faster clock speeds than the others, and looks decent. No RGB though, have to spend a little more to get that.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor (€379.95 @ Coolmod)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€64.90 @ PC Componentes)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€150.95 @ Coolmod)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€139.95 @ Coolmod)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€118.99 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card (€419.98 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: Corsair iCUE 4000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€134.94 @ Coolmod)
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€98.39 @ Amazon Espana)
Case Fan: Corsair iCUE SP120 RGB Pro 52 CFM 120 mm Fan (€16.89 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €1524.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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DaveClydesdale

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Hi again Eximo.

Amazing, thanks so much! This is such a detailed response, I really appreciate it :)

So the mobo you have mentioned could be placed into a Micro ATX case, is that correct? If I did go for a slightly smaller case, would the cooler you provided still be feasible?

Would this cooler be an option for the i7 12th gen?
https://www.pccomponentes.com/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-v2-rgb-kit-de-refrigeracion-liquida?gclid=Cj0KCQjwrs2XBhDjARIsAHVymmQP_wWkbiLSHAGjAMFnmi_v-mMa4rIOLHpafjFJ7jXi6wqsbZMdgsQaAoVLEALw_wcB

Also I see that you have gone for a 650w PSU, so 650 is acceptable for the components? I have zero idea on that one, so had just chosen a slightly higher wattage to be sure.

Thanks Eximo.
Dave
 

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You certainly can.

The RGB fans in this chassis are static, they just light up with the rainbow colors. I have added additional fans to match the ones from Cooler Master. You should be able to plug these into the AIO or directly to the motherboard using the 5V ARGB headers.

As for your power supply question, this is a very high end PSU. GPU maxes out 170W, the CPU should max out around 180W, but only briefly. Very rare you would get 100% load on both at the same time, and even if you did, that would only be 350W. Leaving a good 300W for the entire rest of the system, which might amount to 50W.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor (€379.95 @ Coolmod)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€53.30 @ LIFE Informatica)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€150.95 @ Coolmod)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€139.95 @ Coolmod)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€118.99 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card (€419.98 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€69.27 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€98.39 @ Amazon Espana)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (€47.95 @ Coolmod)
Total: €1478.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Hi all.

I have decided to build my own PC for the first time and would appreciate some advice on my component choices.

I will be using it for Unity game development, Blender 3D rendering and eventually Unreal Engine development as well as some casual gaming, so it will need some graphical and processing power.

I live in Spain and would like to keep my budget to around €1500.

Here are the components I am currently looking at:

CPU: i7-11700
GPU: RTX 3060 12gb
RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3600MH (2x16gb)
Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212
SSD: 1TB m.2 (Samsung 980 MZ-V8V1T0BW)
Mobo: Asus PRIME B660M-K D4
PSU: Nox Urano VX 750W 80+ Bronze
Case: Undecided just yet, open to suggestions! I'm thinking something kind of minimal but with some lights.

These components plus a Windows license would cost pretty much exactly what I was hoping to spend.

I did a bottleneck calculation on the CPU and GPU and they appear to be perfectly matched - 0% bottleneck at 1080p.

As I mentioned previously - I have never created my own build before and am not super knowledgable regarding my options, so if anybody has any alternatives for anything on the list which are in similar price ranges but may offer better performance I'd live to hear them. Any advice or recommendations at all would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks in advance,
Dave
I hope you can write code if you plan on actually making a game.

Your also going to need more storage if you don't have any.

EDIT my first code book C++ Primer 5th edition. Took almost 6 months to just get through it. Now I know just enough to be dangerous but tons of support online when you have problems. Most of the time now it's something simple that I missed just in the format.

Most of the people that end up making money from those game engines try to just specialize in certain areas such as lighting, terrain etc.

I was doing this on a 4790K paired with a GTX 980, 32GB of memory.

Upgraded to a 10600K and 2080 for the extra cores then life happened and really lost interest.
 
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DaveClydesdale

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@DaveClydesdale switch out that Asus board in @Eximo build with this one due to its superior VRM's which you want when running programs such as Blender with a 12 gen i7. There's also a WiFi version of this board if you require it.

https://www.amazon.es/dp/B09NTMRRTL
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 €131,90

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4
Hi @Why_Me , thanks for the input!

A friend has just suggested that perhaps I should go for a full-size ATX board to allow for possible future upgrades and has suggested the following:
https://www.pccomponentes.com/asus-prime-z690-p-wifi-d4?utm_term=productdatafeed&utm_content=31106807139&utm_source=127079&utm_medium=afi&utm_campaign=es.pcpartpicker.com&awc=20982_1660173020_3a065c3d1aa3b144fce2ad3f7e0b6ced

Any thought on that suggestion?

Cheers,
Dave
 

DaveClydesdale

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I hope you can write code if you plan on actually making a game.

Your also going to need more storage if you don't have any.

EDIT my first code book C++ Primer 5th edition. Took almost 6 months to just get through it. Now I know just enough to be dangerous but tons of support online when you have problems. Most of the time now it's something simple that I missed just in the format.

Most of the people that end up making money from those game engines try to just specialize in certain areas such as lighting, terrain etc.

I was doing this on a 4790K paired with a GTX 980, 32GB of memory.

Upgraded to a 10600K and 2080 for the extra cores then life happened and really lost interest.
Hi @Zerk2012

I'm a developer - web and app dev - and I have recently started getting into game dev for fun, we'll see where it leads!

I'll certainly upgrade my storage further down the line, thanks for the input :)

Dave
 

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Hi @Why_Me , thanks for the input!

A friend has just suggested that perhaps I should go for a full-size ATX board to allow for possible future upgrades and has suggested the following:
https://www.pccomponentes.com/asus-prime-z690-p-wifi-d4?utm_term=productdatafeed&utm_content=31106807139&utm_source=127079&utm_medium=afi&utm_campaign=es.pcpartpicker.com&awc=20982_1660173020_3a065c3d1aa3b144fce2ad3f7e0b6ced

Any thought on that suggestion?

Cheers,
Dave
That board is expensive.

https://www.pccomponentes.com/msi-pro-b660-a-ddr4
MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 €163,88

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660-A-DDR4
 

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I would also consider a AMD processor just slacking a bit on the processor speed but not a lot,
Hi @Zerk2012

I'm a developer - web and app dev - and I have recently started getting into game dev for fun, we'll see where it leads!

I'll certainly upgrade my storage further down the line, thanks for the input :)

Dave
I would also consider a AMD processor it's not as fast but not far off.
Includes windows, and more drive space.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor | €277.95 @ Coolmod
CPU Cooler | Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler | €53.41 @ Amazon Espana
Motherboard | MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard | €139.79 @ Neobyte
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory | €115.95 @ Coolmod
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | €67.80 @ Neobyte
Storage | Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €109.99 @ FNAC
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | €39.14 @ Amazon Espana
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card | €419.98 @ Amazon Espana
Case | Antec NX410 ATX Mid Tower Case | €49.95 @ Coolmod
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | €111.95 @ Coolmod
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | €116.95 @ Coolmod
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | €1502.86
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-11 01:50 CEST+0200 |

EDIT not sure how this will affect performance 8 cores with hyperthreading for the AMD VS 12 cores 8 performance and 4 E cores of the 12700 could be a difference in Blender.
 
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DaveClydesdale

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I would also consider a AMD processor just slacking a bit on the processor speed but not a lot,

I would also consider a AMD processor it's not as fast but not far off.
Includes windows, and more drive space.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor | €277.95 @ Coolmod
CPU Cooler | Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler | €53.41 @ Amazon Espana
Motherboard | MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard | €139.79 @ Neobyte
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory | €115.95 @ Coolmod
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | €67.80 @ Neobyte
Storage | Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €109.99 @ FNAC
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | €39.14 @ Amazon Espana
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card | €419.98 @ Amazon Espana
Case | Antec NX410 ATX Mid Tower Case | €49.95 @ Coolmod
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | €111.95 @ Coolmod
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | €116.95 @ Coolmod
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | €1502.86
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-11 01:50 CEST+0200 |

EDIT not sure how this will affect performance 8 cores with hyperthreading for the AMD VS 12 cores 8 performance and 4 E cores of the 12700 could be a difference in Blender.
Hi @Zerk2012

This looks like a great build too. Powerful plus a whole bunch of storage, I like it.

Thanks so much for the suggestions, I really appreciate it!

Cheers,
Dave
 

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Hi guys.

I have decided to go with a micro-ATX case, so am now looking at the following:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/N7nZXy

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor (€379.95 @ Coolmod)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€53.30 @ LIFE Informatica)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€150.95 @ Coolmod)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€139.95 @ Coolmod)
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€98.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.79 @ Neobyte)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card (€419.98 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€69.27 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€69.90 @ PC Componentes)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (€41.16 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €1475.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-11 14:55 CEST+0200

The case listed above is not the one I have chosen, as I believe this brand is Spanish and so does not appear on the list. It is this one:
https://www.nfortec.com/en/nfortec-eris-black-rgb-gaming-tower-with-mallado-front-panel

I'm pretty happy with the balance of graphical and processing power plus storage in a relatively small package. The case seems to accommodate all of my requirements.

Does anybody have any thoughts? See any issues there?

Thanks,
Dave
 

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