FIRST BUILD -- Compatibility Question.

seanbarry

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Hello,

I was wondering if these 3 components would be compatible? I've read some mixed things about that motherboard with an i7-7700K. Is there a better motherboard?

MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor


EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) 08G-P4-5173-KR


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j8KCKZ --- For part reference (minus the GTX 1060 decided to go with 1070 above.)


Thanks in advance its my first build!
 
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The Z170 motherboards supports 6th-gen Intel CPUs out-of-the-box. Since you selected a 7th-gen CPU (i7-7700K), you would need a BIOS update for that i7-7700K to work with the Z170 board. This means plugging in a Skylake CPU first to be able to boot and update the BIOS. To eliminate this hassle and issues, just get a Z270 motherboard which supports 7th-gen out-of-the-box. Note that 7th-gen CPUs require Windows 10 operating system. Alternatively, if you really like the Z170 motherboard, just get a 6th-gen Intel CPU (such as the i7-6700K), which works with Windows 10 or lower versions.

If this build is purely for gaming, you can save some money if you opt for an i5 instead. Though some games may benefit from the 4-core/8-thread the...
The Z170 motherboards supports 6th-gen Intel CPUs out-of-the-box. Since you selected a 7th-gen CPU (i7-7700K), you would need a BIOS update for that i7-7700K to work with the Z170 board. This means plugging in a Skylake CPU first to be able to boot and update the BIOS. To eliminate this hassle and issues, just get a Z270 motherboard which supports 7th-gen out-of-the-box. Note that 7th-gen CPUs require Windows 10 operating system. Alternatively, if you really like the Z170 motherboard, just get a 6th-gen Intel CPU (such as the i7-6700K), which works with Windows 10 or lower versions.

If this build is purely for gaming, you can save some money if you opt for an i5 instead. Though some games may benefit from the 4-core/8-thread the i7 offers (but not most games). The i7 is, more often, geared towards gaming AND multi-tasking/editing work. But if your budget permits, by all means go with the i7.

Based on your list, it tells us that you will plan to overclock that CPU. The CPU Cooler you got is not the best out there (but best in affordability). Alternatively, you can look at the Cryorig H7 or H5 or the be quiet! Dark Rock 3 which are all affordable and has better cooling performance than the Hyper 212 Evo.

If you don't plan on overclocking, then, getting a locked CPU (the non-"K" versions) will save you some money. Pair these non-"K" CPUs with a B250 motherboard (for 7th-gen CPUs) or H110/B150 motherboard (for 6th-gen CPUs) to further save costs if not overclocking. These locked CPUs have a Stock Intel CPU Cooler included, which will suffice for the lower heat/TDP generated. Getting an aftermarket CPU cooler is optional for locked CPUs.

The GTX 1070 GPU is best if you will be gaming on a 1440p/60Hz monitor or 1080p/120Hz++ monitor (preferably G-Sync monitor). If you are only looking at gaming on 1080p/60Hz, then your original pick (the GTX 1060) will suffice, as well as an RX 480.

Depending on your storage requirements (esp. for games you wish to install), you might want to add a 1TB HDD to pair with that good-quality Samsung 850 EVO 250GB you picked.

The 16GB RAM is good, but if budget is limited, an 8GB is considered minimum. Some games benefit from 16GB RAM, most games are good enough with 8GB. Main advantage of 16GB RAM is geared toward multi-tasking/editing works. If your budget permits for a 16GB RAM, then get it.

The 650W PSU is slightly an overkill for the system you will be running. The EVGA NEX series is also not the best out there. You can save more money by getting an ample-wattage PSU that is more than enough for your system. Based on your list, a 550W will suffice (with headroom already for future upgrades). If you like EVGA PSUs, look at the SuperNOVA G3 550W (7-year warranty). Another option is the Seasonic G-550 (5-year warranty, hybrid-modular cable). If you have a large budget, you can get the Corsair RM550x (10-year warranty, fully-modular). If you want to save a lot, you can get the Seasonic M12II-520 EVO (5-year warranty, fully-modular).
 
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The board is old generation board. Try asus boards, better than the one listed. Asus Z270f rog strix motherboard almost in the same price range. ASus Z270e Rog stri, if you want onboard Bluetooth and wifi, front USB 3.1 and many more features for few more bucks.
 
Don't get the locked i7 7700. The locked one have clock speed of 3.6Ghz and unlocked version have 4.2Ghz stock. It will be beneficial in many games and once your CPU gets older and someday you wanted to overclock, then you will be out of luck with a locked processor.

Secondly get a PSU that is fulfilling your power requirement of current components and have room for another graphics card power requirement. It will save the hassle of getting new psu if you decide to go SLI someday.

And lastly, if you want to overclock then get a better cooler like cryorig H7, noctua dh-15, be quiet dark rock pro, because i7 7700k is a hot processor. You might need Liquid cooling if you planning some serious overclocking.
 
Your "first build" Processor is current Intel Core i7 7th, while your motherboard is previous gen. While its support the 7th gen but you have to update your bios in order the motherboard to fully accept your CPU, so i highly suggest to use the current 7th gen motherboard. Brand wise i am not picky which brand you choose, oh since you already pick Z170 chipset, i can also suggest that you pick the Z270 chipset(next gen after Z170)

Here is some Z270 mobos:

http://www.outletpc.com/pe1910-msi-z270-tomahawk-lga-1151-intel-z270-hdmi-sata-6.html

http://www.outletpc.com/fd7219-asrock-z270-killer-sliac-lga-1151-intel-z270-hdmi.html

http://www.outletpc.com/im2686-gigabyte-gaz270xud3-rev-10-lga-1151-intel-z270-hd.html

IF you have better mobos in mind then feel free to ignore and continue on and select your best for bang mobos

Oh, btw kaby lake and next are only supported by windows 10

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3112663/software/microsoft-made-em-do-it-the-latest-kaby-lake-zen-chips-will-support-only-windows-10.html

Hope my answer help, ^.^
 




Thank you for this very detailed answer and quick response! I appreciate you explaining everything as you went through the components as well! I am new to the PC gaming world (Moving from 20 years of console). i will get a Z270 mobo as I don't want to deal with updating the bios. I figured I'd go ahead and get the i7-7700K in case I decide to do anything other than gaming. EX pick up streaming, or decide to overclock (not sure what its useful for entirely only a basic idea). The games I desire to play currently are not that demanding that I require the i7 and the 1070. However I figure I will just "Go big" now that way it is viable into the future. I also plan on getting a 4K monitor at some point in the near future. So I figured the 1070 cant hurt. I currently only have a 1920x1080 60hz monitor. I already purchased everything except for the motherboard (it was out of stock) and good thing too because I would have messed that up haha! So kind of locked in on those, but with no regrets, rather have room to expand CPU/GPU wise than have to upgrade later! I also have a 500GB HDD from my older pre-built gaming PC (Didn't know anything about gaming PC's when I got it 5 years ago and its crap now. but that is salvageable.

Thanks again for the quick advice and detail!
 


Thank you! I will get a Z270 mobo! Appreciate the help!
 


Initially I don't plan to overclock, but down the line I imagine I will. So I will stick with the 7700K. Ill upgrade the PSU/ Cooler as needed down the line!

Thanks for the advice!
 



Whats the difference between these two? I ask because I want it ASAP as I have already purchased all other components besides the mother board. They both look the same to me. However one is available on amazon prime the other is not :3. And there's a price difference.

Asus Z270E Rog strix ($220) not on Amazon prime

Asus Z270G Rog strix ($200) On Amazon prime
 
All the features the Z270E have (such as on-board Wifi/Bluetooth, RGB lighting and headers, 2x M.2 sockets, USB3.1 front panel connector, 2-way SLI support, 4x RAM slots, USB3.1 and USB3.0 rear panel ports, etc.), the Z270G have it too, with the following differences:

Z270E is an ATX-form motherboard (305mm x 244mm) | Z270G is an mATX-form motherboard (244mm x 244mm)
Z270E supports up to 3866MHz RAM speeds | Z270G supports up to 4133MHz RAM speeds
Z270E has HDMI, DVI-D and DisplayPort on-board graphics outputs | Z270G has HDMI and DisplayPort outputs
Z270E has 3x PCIe x16 slots, runs at x16, x8/x8, or x8/x8/x4 | Z270G has 2x PCIe x16 slots, runs at x16 or x8/x8
Z270E supports 2-Way SLI or 3-Way CrossFire | Z270G supports 2-Way SLI or 2-Way CrossFire
Z270E has 4x PCIe x1 slots | Z270G has 2x PCIe x1 slots
Z270E has no USB2.0 rear panel ports | Z270G has 2x USB2.0 rear panel ports
Z270E has 3x internal USB2.0 headers | Z270G has 2x internal USB2.0 headers
Z270E have additional fan/pump headers, more than the Z270G
Z270E have 3x 3D Mount screw ports | Z270G has none
Z270E includes an 80cm long RGB extension cable | Z270G includes a 40cm long RGB extension cable