First Build, Help Plz! haha

LawL_Vengeance · Apr 17, 2012

Hello,
Hello,
i am going to build a new computer, the one i bought that was pre built on Newegg just isnt cutting it anymore, things are getting heat damaged, ect ect... plus i heard you can get exactly what you want for less than a pre built of that caliber so here i go:
AMD 7870 2GB GHz Edition (hopefully Xfire soon)
ASUS Crosshair V formula 990FX MOBO
AMD BullDozer 8150FX 8-core CPU
Gskill Ripjaws X-series 1600Mhz DDR5 RAM (4x4)
Corsair Force Series GT 120GB Solid State Drive
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX950 80Plus 950W PSU
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower case
Corsair Hydro Series H80 HP liquid CPU cooler
I'd appreciate input on what may or may not work good or at all with eachother. or if the case is bad for this setup ect, this my first build and i wanna do it right the first time haha, then comes the installation but anyways, Thanks in Advance (1800-2000USD budget)

kelthic · Apr 17, 2012

If this is a gaming rig, i'm going to strongly recommend you do an intel build with i5-2500k or i5-3570k in a few weeks when they are released. There is a lot of evidence that shows intel cpus outperform AMD chips in gaming. Also, i see you are using 16GB of RAM, which would not be needed in a gaming rig either. 8GB is more than sufficient for gaming. Closed loop Watercooling, such as the H80 are not the best cooling solutions. I would honestly stick with a hyper 212 EVO unless you want to go with custom water cooling solution.

The case looks pretty good to me, but you might consider a HAF 922 as a cheaper alternative.

ddan49 · Apr 17, 2012

Please use the sticky on top of this subforum. Also, I'd really recommend against using AMD. What's your budget? Many things here are wrong, but I'd need to see more info before I started suggesting stuff.

ddan49 · Apr 17, 2012

kelthic :

That's all true. Also, your PSU is WAY too much... look into a PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK II 750W silver rated at $110. Also, I'd get an MSI Twin Frozr II OC 7870... better performance.

kelthic · Apr 17, 2012

That's all true. Also, your PSU is WAY too much... look into a PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK II 750W silver rated at $110. Also, I'd get an MSI Twin Frozr II OC 7870... better performance.

I agree with that also. I was also wondering what resolution you are planning on using. Eyefinity?

maui67 · Apr 17, 2012

If you are comfortable overclocking, you could get the FX-8120 instead and overclock it to 8150 level.
Like others have stated, 8Gb RAM would be plenty.

But also like ddan asked, please use the sticky and state your budget.

LawL_Vengeance · Apr 17, 2012

i dont have a budget so to speak, i need a goal to start saving to but i dont want to go over 1800 USD 2000 at most. And i understand that Intel is a very good brand for performance, but i looked at a study that shows the i7 2600K was just a tad faster than the bulldozer 8150, however the prices range very much 750$ much haha, and the mobo can support up to 32 GB of RAM however i do use game modding programs such as Creation Kit quite often and would feel safer knowing i have more if i need it, Thanks for the replys so quickly, keep em coming im learning the entire time haha thanks

LawL_Vengeance · Apr 17, 2012

how do i use a "sticky" to post buget?

Guest · Apr 17, 2012

go for the 8120FX a few bucks cheaper close to the same performance.

unless your going to go 3 way on you grfx you can get by with a 750 watts psu.

ddan49 · Apr 17, 2012

^That study is not at ALL true. Not even close! For gaming, the i3 pretty much beats the Bulldozer! Also... if your budget is $1800, EVERYTHING is going to change. Lemme start...

CPU: i5-2500k (or IB equivalent... i5-3570k)
Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4
GPU: GTX 680
PSU: SIlencer MkII 750W Silver Rated
Case: Corsair 400R
CPU cooler: Hyper 212 Evo
RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 1.5v CAS9 RAM (try G.Skill)

I think that's all.... all of those are quality parts, and still come out to less than $1800... so you can upgrade your motherboard to an ASUS Z77 (ASUS is better... maybe try Gigabyte?), get two GTX 680s running in SLI (although that might be TOO much), get a nice monitor... whatever.

LawL_Vengeance · Apr 17, 2012

kelthic :

I plan on playing skyrim at 1080P on my HD LCD TV with hopefully maxed settings and 60FPS to boot, plus BF3 ect, its basically going to be used for Games and school, and my job in the future perhaps

LawL_Vengeance · Apr 17, 2012

ddan49 :

Haha i can see that this rig would be amazing, ill give it some thought , however i do understand your an Intel guy and i am an AMD guy, but ive learned to stake experience in front of safety in some cases, i noticed that some of the higher end Nvidia GTX GPUs have less GB on VRAM that AMD like the 580 has 2GB and 1.25 or something liek that, is there a difference?

Guest · Apr 17, 2012

LawL_Vengeance :

if i understand your question correctly, there is a minor difference with a single monitor:
Palit JetStream GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card Review

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EDIT: sorry i thought you meant the 680 . .

kelthic · Apr 17, 2012

ddan49 · Apr 17, 2012

LawL_Vengeance :

No, no, no... it's not that I'm an "Intel" guy... it's just that if you look at the benchmarks (look at tomshardware's best gaming CPUs for the money - April edition!), Intel wins every time. The only time when you would use AMD is when you're on a tight budget, and you can afford a great CPU... AMD is just worse than Intel. I'm all for AMD GPUs (7870

), but their CPUs are very lacking.

Also, in reply to kelthic, IB seems to be also running VERY VERY HOT! It's preference, though. I'd wait until it's released for more info. Also.. I completely forgot to include an SSD. A crucial M4 64GB SSD if worst comes to worst, but kelthic's SSD is really nice for your purposes. Kelthic included links and stuff, and his build looks pretty good, so if you want to mix and match (however you want to arrange it)...

kelthic · Apr 17, 2012

LawL_Vengeance :

I honestly understand the whole AMD vs Intel thing. Ultimately, only you can make the decision that you feel is right, but i do urge you to look into it more. Besides, with the build i suggested, you get the Either the current sweet spot for gaming or the cpu that replaces it AND the best performing single GPU solution on the market for much less than your budget.

more VRAM is more useful for high resolutions and eyefinity setups. No games that i am aware of need more than the 2GB of VRAM on the 680 at a 1080p resolution.

kelthic · Apr 17, 2012

ddan49 :

yeah, i read that. my intention was that when it was released he could choose between 3570k and 2500k based on the reviews. Especially since the 2500k is only $6 less right now than the rumored price of the 3570k. I still find it hard to believe that Intel would replace a cpu with a worse performing cpu and charge more for it. But maybe that's because i'm naive lol.

ddan49 · Apr 17, 2012

Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. I also find that hard to believe, but it's not like there's much competition hahaha >.> AMD...

kelthic · Apr 17, 2012

Since OP mentioned the creation kit, i assume he's on skyrim and http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_CPU_Scaling/16.html might be relavent to show the differences between Bulldozer and Sandy Bridge. This was using the 8150 for bulldozer.

LawL_Vengeance · Apr 17, 2012

Could you run an Intel CPU with an AMD Graphics card and run it well? They seem to be competitors so it doesnt make sense, but im just asking, and thanks for the replys so far the info is good to know. P.s. sorry for the assumption ddan49

kelthic · Apr 17, 2012

CPUs and GPUs are not dependant on one another. Intel cpus and AMD GPUs run just as well as AMD/AMD and/or Intel/Nvidia combinations.

LawL_Vengeance · Apr 17, 2012

kelthic :

wowee its really that bad off? ok if my above question turns out to be yes than whats the best processor without going over bugdet to play skyrim? (if its intel i have a pretty good idea already)

LawL_Vengeance · Apr 17, 2012

okay, thats great to know, so ill look into the previous questions, hopefully you can give me an idea too haha

kelthic · Apr 17, 2012

LawL_Vengeance :

I'm currently playing skyrim on an OC i7-960 and a GTX 570 and Nvidia has this beautiful thing called "Ambient Occlussion" that makes the game just... just fantastic. Look at the screens in http://www.geforce.com/Optimize/Guides/five-fast-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-tweaks-guaranteed-to-make-your-game-look-even-better/ to see for yourself. This was a couple driver additions ago. For skyrim definitely go with the i5-2500k and a GTX 680 if you can. If you still have reservations, go i5-2500k and a 7970.

EDIT: forgot to mention you should pay particular attention around the corners and maximize the screens so you can use the sliders.

ddan49 · Apr 17, 2012

^What he said, except go i5-2500k and 7870 (or 7850)

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