[SOLVED] First build - not sure about compatibility - is no aftermarket cooler okay?

Fred Old

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Hi, I am building my first PC for uni and this is what I have come up with. I am pretty sure it's all compatible, but I would really appreciate it if someone could double check this for me as I don't trust myself or pcpartpicker! Aside from that I have a couple questions:

Is the PSU good enough?

Will I be okay with the stock cooler and the included case fan?

I'm using it for gaming and game development at 1080p.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cwmK6R
 

logainofhades

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Thank you, the budget is under £750 (originally was £700). The 3300X certainly does perform better for gaming and is cheaper. Completely missed it. What would be the drawbacks of it though? How can it cost less? What would having fewer cores affect?

Also why change out the mobo? Is the one I had not compatible with Ryzen 3 CPUs?

You also switched out the case, could you please explain why?

Sorry for all the questions 😬
That B550 has better voltage regulation, which will prove useful, for upgrades, and also helping to ensure you don't get held back, for boost clocks, due to poor power delivery. B550 doesn't need a bios update, for the 3300x. The B450 board might need said update. Unlikely, due to how poor stock levels have been, but still a possibility. B550 also has support for PCI-E 4.0, for graphics, and the M.2 NVME slot, that uses the CPU's PCI-E lanes. B550 is also slated for guaranteed Ryzen 4th gen support. B450 may or may not get the one way bios update, for said support. The only real negatives of the B550 vs that B450 is the wireless controller is slower, and the on board audio isn't quite as good. If you never intend to overclock, you could spend a little less, and go with the A520 version. The boards are identical, other than chipset. You could then step up to faster ram, keeping costs similar.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock A520M-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£110.10 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£68.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£56.99 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.78 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card (£204.98 @ AWD-IT)
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Desktop Case (£43.35 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£72.65 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £728.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-02 19:59 BST+0100


The 3300x costs less, partly because it is a 4c/8t cpu, which is still enough for gaming. 1080p is more CPU dependent, than higher resolutions, so you want the improved IPC, of a 3rd gen CPU. The 2600 is a bit inflated, price wise, though due to supply being lower. You can view the price history, on PCPP, for the CPU, and see it is more expensive than it was, just a few months ago. I changed the case, solely to keep the pricing similar.


Something interesting to watch, with regards to GPU scaling, with the 3300x.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0OHhRQwA8
 
Should be fine. Although I'd go with a much faster NVMe SSD rather than that SATA SSD.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£134.99 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£58.38 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£57.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.20 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card (£204.98 @ AWD-IT)
Case: Fractal Design Core 500 Mini ITX Desktop Case (£59.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£72.65 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £738.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-02 17:53 BST+0100
 

logainofhades

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For gaming, a 3300x would be faster, as it is Zen 2, and all cores are on a single CCX, for reduced latency. It's multithreaded performance is similar to an R5 2600 as well. What is the budget?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£129.92 @ More Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£56.31 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£56.99 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.20 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card (£204.98 @ AWD-IT)
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Desktop Case (£43.35 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£72.65 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £735.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-02 18:06 BST+0100
 

Fred Old

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For gaming, a 3300x would be faster, as it is Zen 2, and all cores are on a single CCX, for reduced latency. It's multithreaded performance is similar to an R5 2600 as well. What is the budget?
Thank you, the budget is under £750 (originally was £700). The 3300X certainly does perform better for gaming and is cheaper. Completely missed it. What would be the drawbacks of it though? How can it cost less? What would having fewer cores affect?

Also why change out the mobo? Is the one I had not compatible with Ryzen 3 CPUs?

You also switched out the case, could you please explain why?

Sorry for all the questions 😬
 
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logainofhades

Titan
Moderator
Thank you, the budget is under £750 (originally was £700). The 3300X certainly does perform better for gaming and is cheaper. Completely missed it. What would be the drawbacks of it though? How can it cost less? What would having fewer cores affect?

Also why change out the mobo? Is the one I had not compatible with Ryzen 3 CPUs?

You also switched out the case, could you please explain why?

Sorry for all the questions 😬
That B550 has better voltage regulation, which will prove useful, for upgrades, and also helping to ensure you don't get held back, for boost clocks, due to poor power delivery. B550 doesn't need a bios update, for the 3300x. The B450 board might need said update. Unlikely, due to how poor stock levels have been, but still a possibility. B550 also has support for PCI-E 4.0, for graphics, and the M.2 NVME slot, that uses the CPU's PCI-E lanes. B550 is also slated for guaranteed Ryzen 4th gen support. B450 may or may not get the one way bios update, for said support. The only real negatives of the B550 vs that B450 is the wireless controller is slower, and the on board audio isn't quite as good. If you never intend to overclock, you could spend a little less, and go with the A520 version. The boards are identical, other than chipset. You could then step up to faster ram, keeping costs similar.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock A520M-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£110.10 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£68.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£56.99 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.78 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card (£204.98 @ AWD-IT)
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Desktop Case (£43.35 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£72.65 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £728.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-02 19:59 BST+0100


The 3300x costs less, partly because it is a 4c/8t cpu, which is still enough for gaming. 1080p is more CPU dependent, than higher resolutions, so you want the improved IPC, of a 3rd gen CPU. The 2600 is a bit inflated, price wise, though due to supply being lower. You can view the price history, on PCPP, for the CPU, and see it is more expensive than it was, just a few months ago. I changed the case, solely to keep the pricing similar.


Something interesting to watch, with regards to GPU scaling, with the 3300x.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0OHhRQwA8
 

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