First build urgent help needed

Dragos2ion

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Apr 29, 2016
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This is it : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8V82zM

The parts that i already bought are :

The motherboard
The CPU
The CPU cooler
RAM
SSD

Let me know what do you guys think about my first build and help me by answearing the next important question ( at least they are for me though xD ) :



1. Help me get the best ,, ATX Mid Tower ,, case for my build ( i care about how easily you can manage all the stuffs inside it and it's airflow )

2. Do i really have to take care about airflow by the way ? Is that very important to me ?

3. I feel like i should have got and i had the possibilty to get a better RAM / CPU / MOTHERBOARD , like the 7700k and the z270 motherboard , im not expert , i've never seen a comparison between 6700k and 7700k , what do you guys think ?

4. Do you think i should have got a water cooler ?

5. Help me get the source , i have a huge nightmare choosing the one that fits my build ;( ( how many Wats / performance etc. )

6. I want 2k/over 60 fps on ultra settings from this build , do you think that GPU will handle that ? Or i should pick another one like ( STRIX , AMP XTREME , HYBRID ) , i saw that the EVGA FTW couldnt handle 2k/60fps ultra in watch dogs 2 so i'm a bit worried , maybe i could reach that only with a 7700k which i didnt buy ;((((((

7. Should i apply thermal paste on first use ?

8. Any other better monitors than the one i picked ? ( 1440p)

9. I want to buy the monitor from Amazon.Com (https://www.amazon.com/PG279Q-2560x1440-G-SYNC-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B017EVR2VM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484676990&sr=8-1&keywords=pg279q)

but i live in Romania ( Europe ) , do you guys think it will work here if i buy an adapter ?

10. Do you think the AMD's new processors will work on z170 motherboard ? What about on z270 ?

11. Should i buy Case fans ?



In case i missed anything please let me know and please help me with some tips or whatever you got , it would mean a lot to me since its my first ever build :)

I appreciate your patience and thanks in advance xD


 
Solution
1. Since choosing a case is completely personal choice, it's hard for us to say for which case to go for.
I picked Corsair Carbide Clear 400C for you. It has good build quality, easy to access case internals, nice big window and plenty of fan mounts. (Case also comes in white color.)
specs: http://www.corsair.com/en/carbide-series-clear-400c-compact-mid-tower-case
Feel free to change it if you don't like it.

2. Important to you? Maybe. Important to your PC's health and longevity? Yes.

3. There's not much performance gain between i7-6700K and i7-7700K.
comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/3502vs3647
Keep in mind that with Z1070 chipset MoBo, once you update your BIOS to the latest...
1) Cases are very subjective. anything with a decent amount of airflow and cable management will do the job.
2) airflow will keep your parts cool.
3) if you are overclocking, there is no effective difference between the 6700K and the 7700K
4) water coolers are not necessary, you have a top-flight air cooler which will work just as well
5) for that system a 650W PSU will be plenty. I'd go with Antec, Seasonic, XFX, or EVGA 80+ Gold
6) Yes, it should be fine for that
7) yes!
8) the one you have should be fine
9) most things shoudl come with teh natioanlly correct cord. converters shoudl work though
10) AMD will not work on an intel mobo
11) depends on the case you buy.
 

In your opinion , what case should i get, i have no idea , trust me 🙁
 
I tend to prefer inexpensive cases, but pretty much a case is just a box to hold your parts. what looks good to me might be cheap junk to you.

good brand on cases include Phanteks, Cooler Master, Rosewill, Antec, Bitfenix, and NZXT. Pick one you like the look of.
 
Looks more like an overpriced "window shopping" dream build then a realistic build.

1) Cases are very user preference, any decent case will have airflow that is good enough
2) The point is that your parts do not overheat, as long as it is sufficient that is all you need to worrya bout
3) Was there a specific reason you chose that motherbaord in the first place
4) If you want to raise the CPU clock by more then 500 mhz then yes you should have a water cooler
5) You want a 600w or better quality PSU, EVGA G2 or Seasonic are good units
6) GTX 1080 will handle 2k/60fps just fine
7) Yes you need to apply thermal paste to the CPU otherwise you will almost instantly kill it
8) I am not a monitor guru, so will let someone else answer
9)
10) NO, AMD processors are physically (like in metal pins, deminshions etc) different from intel so they will not even fit in the motherboard; and even if they did the boards chipsets does not support it either.
11) That depends on what case you buy if you need more/better fans

Now in regards to your actual build:
The motehrbaord is a little over-the-top unless there is a particular reason you choose that board.
CPU cooler is not going to cooler much better vs the $35-50 options
High frequency ram on intel is not worth the premium, any 2400 or 2600mhz ram for around $100 is completley fine.
1TB SSD is not commonly done due to the price. Most people have a 256 or 512gb SSD and then a traditional hard drive for storage.
 


hi mate! nice build. Here are my answers below:

1. I like NZXT and Phanteks cases a ton. Most of them have PSU shrouds, they have easily mountable SSD slots, excellent cable management options. The NZXT S340 is a nice mid-tier case. The NZXT H440 is the next step up with some really nice touches added to what the S340 already includes. The Phanteks Enthoo line is also really nice. Corsair and Cooler Master also make some nice cases, but I have no recent first-hand experience with them.

2. Airflow is important. You want to keep your parts as cool as possible. All of the cases suggested above should be adequate in terms of airflow.

3. The parts you selected are all quality parts. The gains you would have seen in performance from the 7700k are roughly 6-8% - hardly worth losing sleep over.

4. If you plan to overclock, you should get a water cooler. The Corsair H100i is great. Kraken series coolers are also good.

5. EVGA 650 or 750 watt G2 or G3 series, or SeaSonic SS series. Excellent warranty on both.

6. You should be able to achieve this with the card you selected, but it's always best to research benchmarks & reviews for the GPU/Game you want.

7. Yes. Use a small pea-sized bead of paste on the cpu before mounting and fastening the cooler. Some coolers will come with pre-applied thermal paste on the heat-sink, in which case you dont need to apply any.

8. The one you picked is great.

9. Sorry, cant help you here.

10. Very unlikely.

11. You should check 2 things. first, how many fans come with the case you select. second, how many fans can the case accommodate. Once you know this, buy as many fans as you can fit in the case. Keep in mind that if you get a watercooler, it will take up some fan spots.

Hope this helps!
 


1. I could suggest the Rosewill Challenger. That's only $40. But where cable management is key it's not your case. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 is a case that you should be very happy with. It have PLENTY of space under the motherboard(aka dead space) to route and tie your cables so everything is neat and tidy.

2. Yes. See your first question.

3. The 7700K is SLIGHTLY better Nothing to text home to mom about.

4. No.

5. Depends on the answer to 6. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438053&cm_re=550W_G2-_-17-438-053-_-Product

6. Yes.

7. YES.

8. Better is subjective. Will you be able to discern the difference between 144FPS and 165? 60 and 144? Sure. 144 and 165???

https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-2560x1440-Tournaments-Professional-XL2730/dp/B01H5KKVME/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1484764794

https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-XG2703-GS-G-Sync-Monitor-DisplayPort/dp/B01LWJMM1S/ref=sr_1_10?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1484764794&sr=1-10&keywords=1440p+27%22

9. Idk. I would speak to the manufacturer.

10. Yes. Come Oct. or Nov. you will see.

11. Up to you. Some keep it simple.1 intake and 1 exhaust. I have 2 up front. 2 on my 212 Evo. One on the rear exhaust panel. One on top. All are 120mm. Chose the Vivo Titan.
 
1. Since choosing a case is completely personal choice, it's hard for us to say for which case to go for.
I picked Corsair Carbide Clear 400C for you. It has good build quality, easy to access case internals, nice big window and plenty of fan mounts. (Case also comes in white color.)
specs: http://www.corsair.com/en/carbide-series-clear-400c-compact-mid-tower-case
Feel free to change it if you don't like it.

2. Important to you? Maybe. Important to your PC's health and longevity? Yes.

3. There's not much performance gain between i7-6700K and i7-7700K.
comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/3502vs3647
Keep in mind that with Z1070 chipset MoBo, once you update your BIOS to the latest version, you can put any Kaby Lake CPU into your MoBo as well (including i7-7700K).
As far as CPU-MoBo-RAM combo goes, i would've gone with normal profile RAM rather than high-profile RAM. I'll explain the reason behind it in next question.

4. Performance vise, there's no difference between air coolers and AIO water coolers. The air cooler you picked is the king of air coolers and the best air cooler there is. Here's also a good article where Noctua NH-D15 is put against 5 high-end AIO water coolers (including the king of water coolers, the NZXT x61 Kraken): http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/1

Now, about high-profile RAM and NH-D15. Since NH-D15 is one of the biggest air coolers, it has RAM clearance issues. With your current setup and high-profile RAM, you can install everything except NH-D15 front fan.
Image:
memory_clear_tall.jpg

From the image, you can see height difference between normal profile and high-profile RAM while NH-D15 is installed without it's front fan. The taller RAM on the image is the same Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM as you have. The normal profile RAM is Kingston HyperX Fury.
Since NH-D15 front fan sits far lower than where the heatsink ends, there's no room for high-profile RAM when using NH-D15.
Here's 2nd image as well:
memory_clear_low.jpg

Here, the high-profile RAM is removed and front fan is installed. You can clearly see that even a normal profile RAM barely fits under the front fan of NH-D15.
Here you have 3 options:
1. Install NH-D15 and high-profile RAM without installing the front fan due to the clearance issues.
2. Switch out your high-profile RAM to normal profile RAM.
3. Use smaller fan (120mm) in place of original 140mm fan to get enough RAM clearance.

5. Your PC will do fine with good quality 600W range PSU.

6. GTX 1080 can handle even 4K. Your picked GPU will do fine.

7. If the thermal paste doesn't come pre-applied on CPU heatsink then yes. Read your CPU cooler installation manual for step-to-step instructions on how to do it.

8. No. Your picked monitor is one of the best 27", G-Sync, 144 Hz, 1440p monitor.

9. Rather than buying your monitor from the USA where the 120V is in use, buy your monitor from Germany where the 240V is in use. Amazon: https://www.amazon.de/Asus-PG279Q-Monitor-Reaktionszeit-DisplayPort/dp/B017EVR2VM

10. AMD CPUs won't work on Intel Z170 and Z270 chipset MoBos due to the different CPU socket used. AMD's Ryzen CPUs use AMD's AM4 socket while Z170 and Z270 MoBos come only with Intel's LGA1151 socket that supports Skylake and Kaby Lake family CPUs.

11. For better airflow and PC cooling, yes.

Added missing components to your build without changing out already purchased parts,
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GLmyLD

Went with Corsair Clear 400C case i described in #1, added good quality Seasonic PSU i suggested in #5 and added 3x 140mm case fans i suggested in #11. You can mount the case fans in Corsair 400C case as follows: 1x 140mm front intake, 2x 140mm top exhaust.
 
Solution


so basically i bought the RAM and i have to buy another set of RAM ;(((((((((((((((
 

It is quite saddening to hear that you have to replace something that you already bought, especially since Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM comes with premium price but we are here to help you as best as we can.
(Though, i wonder why nobody else didn't bring the RAM clearance issue up. Perhaps they didn't want to deliver the bad news.)

Letting you know about compatibility and clearance issues as soon as possible gives you time to reconfigure your build. You should be able to RMA (return) your purchased RAM and get your money back though.

For replacement RAM, i suggest Corsair Vengeance LPX. 2x 8GB at 3000 Mhz.
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15
Corsair Vengeance LPX is 34mm tall. By default NH-D15 front fan has clearance of 32mm but since you can mout your front fan up to 5mm higher from it's default height, the LPX RAM will fit under the front fan of NH-D15.

Next time, do post your topic before you have actually purchased anything to avoid compatibility and clearance issues thanks to the help of more experienced users.
 


You do not have to buy another set of RAM. You could:

1. use the noctua cooler without a front-mounted fan
2. use a smaller (120mm) front-mounted fan on the Noctua
3. return the noctua and get an AIO water cooler

I suggest option 2 or 3. Option 2 will be the least expensive option - probably $20 tops for a quality 120mm PWM fan.