Question First Build

[Scott Fowler]

Hi

Quick question, i have my first pc build i wanna build
I have some other similar post but with some different components. But i think i am going with this build.

• My pc build:

• Motherboard: MSI MK MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4
• CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K
• CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2
• GPU: Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 3080 Ti MASTER
• Ram: G.Skill TridentZ Neo Series - 64GB: 2x32GB - DDR4 - 3600MHz
• PC Fans: Cooler master sickleflow 120 argb
• Storage: Samsung 980 SSD PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2 - 500GB
• PSU: Cooler Master V Series V850 SFX
• Case: Lian li O11 Dynamic mini

• Questions:

• 1. Is my current PSU enough to power this build?
• 2. would my components fitt in the case? And would the PSU fit aswell? if not any tips to another?
• 3. Do i need anything else?
• 4. What bracket do i have to get for my cpu cooler to me mounted to my motherboard?
• 5. I never build a pc, so my knowledge is almost at 0. Would everyhing work together, like the cpu and motherboard, the fans etc etc etc

 

[Scott Fowler]

Hi,

So i have a build in mind. But what kinda thermal paste do i get?
To see my build, check my post here: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/first-build.3747646/

 

[USAFRet]

Hi,

So i have a build in mind. But what kinda thermal paste do i get?
To see my build, check my post here: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/first-build.3747646/

The paste that comes preapplied on the CPU cooler is just fine.

 

[g-unit1111]

That looks good to me. I don't really know much about building a liquid loop into an SFX case. I've only ever done air builds.

I would suggest getting at least a 1TB drive or more. 500GB doesn't go very far these days.

 

[helper800]

Answers;

1. No, even though Coolermaster makes some decent PSUs I avoid them altogether because they also make a lot of crappy ones too. Get a Seasonic, Corsair, Superflower Ledex 3 or an EVGA G2/G3/G5/G6 instead and many others.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.

What is the intended use for this PC?

This is your current build on pcpartpicker;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($616.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($319.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($304.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card ($2972.10 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V SFX Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $4614.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-01-31 11:36 EST-0500

 

[Scott Fowler]

Is there any different between the preapplied and one to buy?

 

[Scott Fowler]

Answers;

1. No, even though Coolermaster makes some decent PSUs I avoid them altogether because they also make a lot of crappy ones too. Get a Seasonic, Corsair, Superflower Ledex 3 or an EVGA G2/G3/G5/G6 instead and many others.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.

What is the intended use for this PC?

This is your current build on pcpartpicker;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($616.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($319.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($304.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card ($2972.10 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V SFX Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $4614.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-01-31 11:36 EST-0500

Hi, so the pc is used for game engine development
Not sure if i got the answers from you right? i fixed the layout of the questions, perhaps you may be able to take a look again? <3

Also, not sure if i got the answer right about if my psu is enough to power this build?

 

[Nighthawk117]

Is there any different between the preapplied and one to buy?

i'm not sure what exact paste they use, however it's usually a decent one, it's going to make very little difference replacing it.

 

[USAFRet]

Is there any different between the preapplied and one to buy?

Not nearly as much as people think.
https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-thermal-paste

 

[Scott Fowler]

Hi, thanks for the feedback.
Quick question. Is this "Noctua NT-H2 High Performance Thermal grease" a great thermal paste for my build?

I am running heavy programs, so i'll the best i can get and afford

 

[Nighthawk117]

Hi, thanks for the feedback.
Quick question. Is this "Noctua NT-H2 High Performance Thermal grease" a great thermal paste for my build?

I am running heavy programs, so i'll the best i can get and afford

Yes it's absolutely fine, a high quality paste. I've been using Noctua NT-H1 for desktop and laptop for many years. Also anything Noctua does is high quality, well known fact of the universe

 

[Scott Fowler]

Yes it's absolutely fine, a high quality paste. I've been using Noctua NT-H1 for desktop and laptop for many years. Also anything Noctua does is high quality, well known fact of the universe

Thanks alot <3

 

[kanewolf]

I am running heavy programs, so i'll the best i can get and afford

A couple degrees C shouldn't matter. If it does, you need better overall cooling. The CPU performs the same at 60C and 58C. As long as you don't have thermal throttling (CPU dependent) your performance will be the same.

 

[helper800]

Hi, so the pc is used for game engine development
Not sure if i got the answers from you right? i fixed the layout of the questions, perhaps you may be able to take a look again? <3

Also, not sure if i got the answer right about if my psu is enough to power this build?

The PSU has enough wattage for the PC, but I have issues with Coolermaster PSUs. I have some questions; Do you need 64gb of RAM? Do you need the additional 4 efficiency cores on the 12900k over the 12700k? Do you already have the Gigabyte 3080ti purchased?

If you do not need the above mentioned extra RAM and eCores on the CPU I would personally do something like this, especially if you care for RGB (if you dont we can change some things to save a bit on money).

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($364.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Lian Li GALAHAD AIO 360 RGB UNI FAN SL120 EDITION 58.54 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($199.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon) Needs mATX or ITX mobo for case
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card ($2972.10 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI SL120 58.54 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.90 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI SL120 58.54 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.90 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI SL120 58.54 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.90 @ B&H)
Total: $4462.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-01-31 11:52 EST-0500

If you do need the extras I would do this;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($616.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Lian Li GALAHAD AIO 360 RGB UNI FAN SL120 EDITION 58.54 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($199.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon) Needs mATX or ITX mobo for case
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($304.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card ($2972.10 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI SL120 58.54 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.90 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI SL120 58.54 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.90 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI SL120 58.54 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.90 @ B&H)
Total: $4854.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-01-31 11:58 EST-0500

 

[Scott Fowler]

Hi, well first of all thank you so mutch for taking the time to help! Really really appricated it <3

1. I have the 3080 TI just waiting to be used (so yes )
2. I do need 64GB of ram, duo to so many task running in the backgrounds
3. I would love to have the Lian Li uni sl120, but its a little over budget with 6-7 fans. Thats why i went with the others. Are they bad the ones i have listed?
4. Last but not least. Any other tips to a PSU with enough Watt and would fit in my case?

 

[Scott Fowler]

Last question. Do i need any other things so my cpu cooler would work/get mounted.
Or does the cooler and motherboard have the things with the packet?

 

[Karadjgne]

While I normally agree about CM psus, the V isn't in the same class as almost all others.

If you need a strong enough power supply to deal with one of the new and powerful graphics cards, either from Nvidia or AMD, the Cooler Master V850 V2 Gold fits the bill. It is a high-performance PSU with silent operation and good enough build quality, supported by a hefty ten-year warranty. It is in the same performance category as the XPG Core Reactor 850 and the Super Flower Leadex III 850. Aris Mpitziopoulos

The 011 mini is an mITX case. It supports ITX and mATX motherboards only. You chose a full size ATX mobo, it's not going to fit. I'd suggest ITX for space purposes with coolers.

The ML240L is junk. It's the 'lite' version, basically as bad as it gets and you will have an extremely hard time keeping a 12900k cool under moderate-heavy loads for extended periods. Look for the Arctic liquid Freezer II 280mm instead.

CM Sickle flow are not that good, for most applications. Tend to be rather noisy at mid-high rpm. I'd forgo the argb aspect and use 3x Arctic F12 at top exhaust, the aio mounted to the side.

Rest is fine.

 

[Scott Fowler]

While I normally agree about CM psus, the V isn't in the same class as almost all others.


The 011 mini is an mITX case. It supports ITX and mATX motherboards only. You chose a full size ATX mobo, it's not going to fit. I'd suggest ITX for space purposes with coolers.

The ML240L is junk. It's the 'lite' version, basically as bad as it gets and you will have an extremely hard time keeping a 12900k cool under moderate-heavy loads for extended periods. Look for the Arctic liquid Freezer II 280mm instead.

CM Sickle flow are not that good, for most applications. Tend to be rather noisy at mid-high rpm. I'd forgo the argb aspect and use 3x Arctic F12 at top exhaust, the aio mounted to the side.

Rest is fine.

Hi, thanks for your feedback

I always want to be 110% sure, thats why i am here and appricate every feedback.
Looking at https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/?compatible_with=ByJmP6 - the motherboard i have do fit?

Now i am confused

 

[helper800]

The 011 mini is an mITX case. It supports ITX and mATX motherboards only. You chose a full size ATX mobo, it's not going to fit. I'd suggest ITX for space purposes with coolers.

I must have had a stroke because I was recommending a "better" SFX PSU to a build while simultaneously recommending an ATX motherboard for small form factor case...

***Edit, I was not having a stroke, the o11 dynamic mini can fit full sized ATX motherboards...

 

[helper800]

1. I would love to have the Lian Li uni sl120, but its a little over budget with 6-7 fans. Thats why i went with the others. Are they bad the ones i have listed?

What is your budget?

 

[Scott Fowler]

What is your budget?

For fans, i know its not the best, but around $150

 

[Scott Fowler]

I must have had a stroke because I was recommending a "better" SFX PSU to a build while simultaneously recommending an ATX motherboard for small form factor case...

Im still confused, knowing very little about pc build doesn't help as well

Does my MSI motherboard fit in the case? and overall does everything fit?
I have around 1 hour left to buy the things, so i really need help asap <3

 

[Scott Fowler]

Hi,

so i have another post about my pc build, but since i am VERY low on time i need the help asap
Does the motherboard "MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4" fit in a lian li o11 dynamic mini

 

[helper800]

Im still confused, knowing very little about pc build doesn't help as well

Does my MSI motherboard fit in the case? and overall does everything fit?
I have around 1 hour left to buy the things, so i really need help asap <3

With your 1500 dollar budget in mind I would do this

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($616.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($244.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($112.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.60 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1532.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-01-31 13:10 EST-0500

or this, but know that this comes with 0 case fans;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($616.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($244.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($112.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB AORUS MASTER Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Lian Li O11 Air Mini ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1559.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-01-31 13:17 EST-0500

 

[Scott Fowler]

The motherboard you picked is too big for the case, so you either need to get the bigger version of that case or get a mATX or ITX form factor motherboard to fit into that case. I already looked and there are no good options for an mATX or ITX motherboard for that build unless you go for a DDR5 motherboard and DDR5 RAM which is exspensive and there are no 64gb RAM kits to choose from for DDR5. You can get 2 2x16gb DDR5 kits though for 64gb of RAM but that is like 1500 dollars. Let me see if its doable with a 1500 budget for that case and DDR5.

Hi thanks, bare with me here

I searched on the internet, and every webside i went to says the motherboard does fit in my Lian Li o11 Mini case. I am really confused right now?
Why would other websides tell it fits, and why isn't it from your perspective?

Thanks