First custom water cooling loop part advice

andydean56

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Hey, I’m new to building a custom water cooling loop and before purchasing anything I was look for advice on the parts I've picked, please let me know if I’ve missed anything or if they are any better alternatives.

XSPC EX360 120mm Radiator - Black

XSPC RayStorm CPU WaterBlock (Intel) V3

8 x Monsoon Chain Gun Fitting 3/8" x 5/8" - Chrome

Three Fan Bundle - BitFenix Spectre Plain BLACK 120mm Fan

Monsoon 16/10mm (OD 5/8) Rotary 45° - Matte Black

XSPC Ball Valve (Chrome)

Bitspower Z-Multi 150mm Water Tank

Laing 10W DDC-Pump 12V DDC-1T

Mayhems X1 UV Purple Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L

all together its costing me about £240 and would like to stay in that price range, any advice and insight will be greatly appreciated.

the system I will be building it all in is an intel i7 6700k with a R9 290 (which I want to become a part of the loop at a later date) in a Thermaltake Core X71.
 

You may want to use EKWB instead of XSPC, they have much better quality components imo, such as the Supremacy Evo CPU water block which kicks ass. :)
In terms of fans, get the Fractal Design HP-12s, much better static pressure than the Spectres, and much quieter.
The XSPC radiators and valve are good though, so stick with those.
I can't say I can advise on the pump, as I've never used Laing before, and haven't seen them before either! 😱
The EK X-TOP DDC Elite is one I can recommend. (Wow i'm recommending a lot of EK here. xD)
I don't have that much experience liquid cooling, but I can tell you that EK is top notch on quality, and their water blocks are very good for graphics cards and CPUs.

Resovoir seems decent, but then again compatibility may be an issue depending on parts.
Fluid is fine, personal preference just so long as it is the right consistency.

Swiftech also do some very good radiators and water cooling components, but may be out of your price range. Give them a look and get back to me on what options you have.
I recommend upgrading your GPU before water cooling it, the R9 290 may overclock well, but it will be a waste of money with such an old card.

I'd wait for a second opinion, just because i'm relatively new to the field myself, just got into it recently! :)
Big step to take given all the things that can go wrong.
 
I don't think I would invest in water cooling a 3 year old GFX card. Two years ago I wuda sad go right ahead ... but today. I'd do this

H320-X2-COLOR-PICS.jpg


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Swiftech-H320-X2-Computer-Processor/dp/B01AOG1P3U/

When ya ready, instead of water cooling a very old card, get a card w/block pre-installed and save lotta money

https://www.techpowerup.com/223448/msi-releases-the-gtx-1080-and-gtx-1070-seahawk-ek-x-series-graphics-cards

If ya stay w/ the custom loop.... don't look to get everything from same vendor

EVGA rules on water blocks and Reservoirs, rads involves more than performance .. but use this as a guide ... how much thickness can ya fit ? Screw protectors, number of ports ?

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Bitspower has best fittings

This isn't the 1990s... high SP fans are total unnecessary with today's low fpi rads
 


^^^
As I mentioned, Swiftech coolers are very good typically, but they may be a little over OPs budget considering the nature of his build, meaning if he were to invest in that, limiting him to AIO solutions when it appears he wants to build a custom loop, adding in a graphics card later.
Not quite sure what to do in this situation, best to wait for his response I think.
 
As I mentioned, Swiftech coolers are very good typically, but they may be a little over OPs budget considering the nature of his build, meaning he if he were to invest in that, limiting him to AIO solutions when it appears he wants to build a custom loop, adding in a graphics card later.

You should brush up on the Switech line.... your concerns while valid with respect to CLCs, simply don't apply here: The only difference between the AiO and the separate components s someone grabbed a pump, rad, reservoir and water block from the custom components catalog and pre-assembled them for you. Buy separate or buy assembled... it's the same parts ... and zero imitations. Specifically...

1. I was well aware when posting that the Swiftech option was not in fact over the OPs budget because the Swiftech is substantially cheaper (entire system = £198 on amazon.uk) which is one of the reasons I mentioned it. There are also missing items not on OPs parts list that cost money such as TIM.

2. Again, you should be aware that the Swiftech AIO is basically a collection of Swiftech's custom loop components pre-assembled at the factory. Therefore there is no "limitation" here. Unlike CLCs ....

a) This is not a closed system, you can add more water blocks, more radiators, more of anything you want.
b) It use a copper radiator, not the cheap aluminum stuff found on CLCs
c) It has a 1.0 pm water pump, not the cheap 0.1 gpm pump like CLCs
d) It doesn't have any mixed metals like
e) It has a built in reservoir

It is no different in any way, shape or form from Swiftech's custom loop components other than someone has pre-assembled it for you.

From the older model's review

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/22-liquid/40870-swiftech-h220-x-open-loop-240mm-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=3

For those in the loop (pun intended), the H220X has been highly anticipated and with good reason. Many looking to delve into the world of liquid cooling start out with a unit that is ready-to-go right out of the box, simply because the idea of setting up a loop can be a little daunting. However, with a CLC you are limited to only what it is, and only the performance it can deliver as assembled. With that in mind, the H220X makes infinitely more sense as a starting point into liquid cooling. It is ready to go out of the box and requires no maintenance, but it is also fully expandable when you are ready to take the next step. Even if you aren’t looking to take the next step, the H220X outperforms every CLC on the market, and does it at more than 20 dB quieter. Plus, it actually looks like an open loop cooler, simply because it is one.

When you break it down, the H220X is a collection of excellent [custom loop] components that simply happen to come in one box. The included Apogee XL is top notch, and recently took home a Hi Tech Legion Gold Award. The MCP30 pump has a head pressure of over 2 meters, with over 1GPM flow and PWM control, making it a perfect choice for a 3-4 component loop. The radiator is an excellent quality copper/brass piece that delivers excellent low rpm performance, and the attached reservoir is easily accessible. 3/8” ID tubing is used throughout, and there is plenty of length to simply make one cut to add a GPU in most builds. In other words, you have a small loop in a box with every component being top quality, and may be the same components you would have been looking at in the first place.

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/22-liquid/42047-swiftech-h240-x-open-loop-280mm-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=3

The X Series is built from top quality components found in custom loops with the performance and expandability to match, yet their pre-assembly offers the convenience typically associated with CLCs. In short, Swiftech is delivering the best of both worlds at an incredibly reasonable price with the X Series, and the H240-X is the biggest and most powerful unit in the line.

The individual components of the H240-X look far more like a shopping list for a high quality small~mid-[custom] size loop than something one would pull already assembled out of a box. It begins with Swiftech’s flagship Apogee XL CPU block, which is among the finest available on the market, and took top performance honors in our mainstream block comparisons. The radiator is built from Swiftech’s tried and true 240QP, featuring copper/brass construction and low restriction 12 fpi optimized for low noise cooling. The MCP-30 pump is capable of more than 1 gpm flow rates with enough head pressure to easily accommodate additional radiators and blocks. A small reservoir with bleed port is permanently mounted to the radiator and all is tied together with black 3/8” x 5/8” tubing. All fittings are G1/4” excepting the pump outlet (a G1/4” adapter is available from Swiftech for $4.95) to allow for changes to the fittings of your choice. Unlike a CLC, the H240-X is nothing short of a pre-assembled collection of top quality discrete liquid cooling components, and it shows in the build quality and performance.

EK does the same thing ... again...same components as you were recommending in your post, just pre-assembled ..

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xlc-predator-360-incl-qdc

And pre-assembled and pre-filled GFX card blocks

https://youtu.be/1k1yLsdS3hQ

EK has also partnered with MSI to sell pre-assembed water blocks on MSI cards. Again, you get the exact same card and the exact same block...only difference is someone assembled it for you and ytou get it cheaper.

So, no...just because someone else has done the assembly for you and pre-filled doesn't introduce any limitations whatsoever, and rather than increasing price, it reduces it





 


I understand that perfectly fine.
Its just that with multi-GPU setups such as SLI and crossfire, a single Swiftech radiator is not going to cut it across all three components. I'm talking about futureproofing in the sense that OP is able to add more than two components to his loop. In this sense the reservoir custom loop path is a better option, i'm just putting the facts out there and bringing up OPs preference. An open custom loop simply provides better options for upgradability should more GPUs be added in future, just stating the facts.
 
Its just that with multi-GPU setups such as SLI and crossfire, a single Swiftech radiator (1) is not going to cut it across all three components. I'm talking about futureproofing in the sense that OP is able to add more than two components to his loop (2). In this sense the reservoir custom loop path is a better option, i'm just putting the facts out there and bringing up OPs preference. An open custom loop simply provides better options for upgradability (3) should more GPUs be added in future, just stating the facts (4).

Assumption No. 1 - False. One is in now way limited to a single Swiftech radiator
Assumption No. 2 - False. See Assumption No. 1.. One can still add as many components as one likes
Assumption No. 3 - False. See Assumption Nos. 1 and 2 ... there are no options that exist for one case that aren't available to the other.
Assumption No. 4 - False. You are not stating facts ...you have merely drawn reasonable conclusions based upon the false assumption that this is a CLC. It's not ... it's an OLC... the loop can be **opened** and expanded at any time.

Specifically...

1. There was no mention of multi cards in the OP.

2. SLI with 3 or more cards is no loner officially supported and with what we have seen w/ DX12, recent lack of game developer support and diminishedSLI / CF scaling of late, unless there's some changes, it would appear to be a fading technology. Nevertheless, it makes absolutely no difference when you add SLI or CF. When you compete the initial build with just the CPU, you would add the exact same components to the custom loop and in the exact same way as you would to the Open Loop Swiftech loop. When you compete the loop with te 1st card, you would add the exact same components to the custom loop and in the exact same way as you would to the Open Loop Swiftech loop.

3. The OP stated he was planning a 360 radiator ... he has a 360 radiator w/ the h320 2 or EK Predator .... you'll have to explain to m why a Swiftech 360mm radiator by itself in a box performs any differently if there's a pump and water block in the same box.

4. What options exist on the custom loop that don't exist for the pre-assembled ? The only ones that exist.... exist only in the mistaken perception that is a closed loop system. It very clearly is not. Just because several components can be pre-assembled for you does not mean they can not be disassembled. The pump, radiator and water block have the same respective performance and expandability either way,

Adding a water GPU block:

a) Drain loop
b) Disconnect tubing connection from radiator.
c) Install new GFX card with waterblock
d) Connect disconnected tube to water block
e) Add new tube from water block to radiator
f) refill and bleed loop

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/1k1yLsdS3hQ

A radiator could be installed in the exact same way

Rad Sizing

The radiators should be sized using appropriate calculations.

If you want to go thru the exercise, it's outlined here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457426/radiator-size-estimator

Let's do the math.....

Option 1 - One (1) New 1070

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_X/22.html
1 x 125 watts (CPU) + 1 x 10 watts (pump) + 1 x 175 watts (1070s) = 310 watts

60% of that will be handled by rads, or 186 watts

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At 1800 rpm, the Swiftech rad handles 265 watts @ 10C Delta T
At 2200 rpm, the Swiftech rad handles 326 watts @ 10 C Delta T

By interpolating, we get 296 watts cooling capacity for the H320 X2 @ 10C Delta T

We see that we have almost 50% excess cooling capacity for 10C with the H320 X2 and that the delta T will be around 6.2C

Option 2 - One (1) Old 290

Lets assume he wants to invest in a water block for the older 290 (+39 watts)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290/24.html

1 x 125 watts (CPU) + 1 x 10 watts (pump) + 1 x 214 watts = 349 watts

60% of that will be handled by rads, or 209 watts

We see that we have almost 40% excess cooling capacity for 10C with the H320 X2 and that the delta T will be around 8.3C

Option 3 - Two (2) Old 290's

Lets assume he wants to invest in a 2 water block for the older 290s (+39 watts)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290/24.html

1 x 125 watts (CPU) + 1 x 10 watts (pump) + 2 x 214 watts = 563 watts

60% of that will be handled by rads, or 338 watts

We see that we aren't going to make 10C with the H320 X2 and that the delta T will be around 11.4C ... not bad at all ... and all by its lonesome. But let's be purists .... Lets add another 240mm of radiator in the front of the case ... and yes, you can do that.... you can even add a Swiftech H240 X2 and double pump it.

2/3 of 296 = an extra 197 watts for a total of 493 watts

With 493 watts we could add a 3rd 290 and still be well below 10C delta T.

So where's the problem ? Again how is it different if I ship you a pump a radiator and a water block in 3 separate boxes or if I ship you the exact same components pre-assembled in a single box ? Put another way ... If I took all the parts in OPs list and pre-assembled them ....how would his options be in any way diminished ? ... not at all.

There is no problem here... you have this presumption that the Swiftech AiOs are CLCs and they are not, you can add additional blocks, rads, reservoirs pumps whatever and expand the loop however you want. If ya wanna go bigger, I could install a 480mm rad just as well

If you are wondering where this data came from, we use a box with 5 x 140mm of rad, 10 rad fans, 6 case fans, 6 thermal sensors 4 water / 2 air), digital thermometer, 2 GPU water blocks, CPU and MoBo Water blocks, 2 water pumps and a fog machine for air flow monitoring. Tubing is hard acrylic with Bitspower fittings. The calculation methods have been used by myself on numerous builds and dozens of users with the same result within 5%). All hard data was obtained from martinsliquid lab and martin has reviewed and commented on the results which you can see in the above link.

That 60% / 40% split if you are wondering was determined by taking data from dozens of builds....we know from martins data to a watt what the rads do.... we can calculate the maximum theoretical wattage of any component so what remains was just to subtract the two. Where does it go ? Thermal radiation from

... radiator shrouds
... water block surfaces
... component surfaces
... tubing and fitting surfaces

and the fact that ..

... no component outputs max power all the time
... no two components will outptut max power at the same time


This absolutely no different that choosing a set of components for a new build and building it yourself versus having someone else build it for you with the exact same components....

... the MoBo still has room for adding a GFX card cayse the OSu is sized fr it either way.
... you can still add case fans cause the mounting are still there.
.. you can still add HDs case the empty trays are still there.
... you can still OC cause the cooler has the same cooling capacity regardless of who installed it

.. and you can still disconnect water loop tubing and add new components cause the case still fits the same things and the pump has the same capacity regardless of who connected the tubes to it.



 


Well, I can say that's easily the most aggressive essay i've read in a while...... lol
 
Just so ya know... ya don't have to quote the whole thing.

Wasn't intended to be aggressive but when ya keep repeating the same thing after its been shown to be incorrect ... This is not a CLC that limits your options. Repeating that it is and saying, twice that "you are just stating the facts" when the links provided show that not to be the case, ya have to expect the response to be stronger since the info provided didn't register the 1st time.
 

Didn't say I was quoting facts, said I was stating them. A single 320mm Swiftech radiator will struggle to cool two high end cards (say 1080s if OP chooses to upgrade as has been suggested) and a CPU efficiently, that is a fact, not an assumption, and expansion beyond the stock inclusions will cost additional money, more so than building a custom loop.
Trying to list the pros and cons here.
Pros of the Swiftech are that it is a simple installation and gives cool temperatures at a solid price.
Pros of a custom loop are that it is more easily expandable once it is set up, but requires extensive system work to put together, which is a big downside imo.
I'm not just flat out denying that the Swiftech can perform if you re-read my post, i'm questioning what is best price/performance wise for the uses of the original poster.
It can be expanded, as you stated (I never stated it was a CLC, just an AIO) but given the extra cost of these components, i'm not sure whether buying would be as cost effective as say what OP has, with a few things changed out.
As you stated, I know that Swiftech assembles high quality components into an AIO loop, and that it is expandable, but again, I see the labour required to undertake such an assembly and boxing + shipping as unnecessary costs.
Again, i'm relatively new to the whole custom water cooling scene, so if you could explain the benefits and shortcomings I'm all ears. :)

 



Hey guys thats for the response, i wanted to leave the gpu out of the loop as the blocks like 70 quid and yer its a 3 year old card so i will wait till i can afford the 1070 or somthing.

i could go swifttech but the point of this build was so i could be able to expend it later on with more rads, pumps and maybe one or two new gpus and also do a fairly good overclock on the cpu.

thanks for the advice on the parts and suggesting EKWB i know there a good brand to go with still not sure about the pump though and i should have the right fittings i was just looking for someone to tell me all the parts will work together and i wont have to stop the build and wait for more parts.

also any good sites you guys can suggest ? im currently using overclockers / scan / amazon and ebay


 

E-Buyer is also pretty good, but you use most of the best sites in the UK already! :)
Good luck with your build, whatever you end up deciding on.

 
I don't have that much experience liquid cooling,

I have been keeping that in mind as I have answered each time but still don't understand where this mindset that a AiO gimps you in some way is coming from

Swiftech radiator will struggle to cool two high end cards (say 1080s if OP chooses to upgrade as has been suggested) and a CPU efficiently

1. This is a strawman thrown that creates a premise that never existed. Whether or not the system can or can not handle SLI / CF 500 watts cards was never on the table. My system draws close to 300 watts per card... such monsters don't exist anymore... my system was designed for 790 watts. That needs two radiators. Today's ards are puny in comparison

What was on the table was a 360mm radiator. The only relevant question therefore is related to the choice within the context of the OPs question.

Option A - 360mm XSPC Radiator
Option B - 360mm Swiftech Radiator

Your assigned task ... define how option A is better than B ... If you want to argue that the 360mm radiator in the OPs build list does a better job than the 360mm rad in the Swiftech cut, show me the calcs. If you want to argue that different parts are needed t expand each option, list them

A single 320mm Swiftech radiator

2. There's no such thing as a 320mm radiator ... the models stand for

120 = 1 x 120 m fan
140 = 1 x 140 mm fan
220 = 2 x 120 mm fans
240 = 2 x 140 mm fans
320 = 3 x 120 mm fans

expansion beyond the stock inclusions will cost additional money, more so than building a custom loop.

3. False. I'll ask again... OP wants to add a GFX card; list the extra parts that have to be bought / installed with the Swiftech 360 mm set up compared with the XSPC 360 mm rad setup. I can say the sky is green but no saying it over and over won't change anyone's mind.... show me.

4. This is false

expansion beyond the stock inclusions will cost additional money, more so than building a custom loop.

You keep saying it but repetition doesn't make the argument any stronger. Where's the data / parts lists / part costs ?

5. This is false .. a 1080 has not been suggested

say 1080s if OP chooses to upgrade as has been suggested

6. This is false

Pros of a custom loop are that it is more easily expandable once it is set up

How ? .. you have said it several times now but can't seem to explain how. What is it that must be done with the Swiftech loop that doesn't have to be done with the XSPC loop ? This is the 3rd time the question was asked, if there's no answer, than that is the answer to the rhetorical question is ... it is not any easier, it's identical

I have done both, repeatedly. I certainly didn't do anything different or buy anything different. The video I linked to twice showed it happening in < 2 minutes.

7. This is false .. non existent components have no cost. Can you name any ?

but given the extra cost of these components, i'm not sure whether buying would be as cost effective as say what OP has, with a few things changed out.

8. This is false

I see the labour required to undertake such an assembly and boxing + shipping as unnecessary costs.

Again, how does labor and shipping differ to ship the exact same parts ?


Initial Build
Let's assume we have system with 6700k (125 watts) and just cooling the CPU as OP stated.

Option A = OP's loop which is £250 plus lots of extra hours and multiple shipping charges
Option B = Swiftech H320 X2 w/ free shipping an easy install for £181.86

We're at least £80 ahead

Add 1080

125 watt CPU + 10 watt Pump + 197 say 200 watts = 335 watts

60% of 335 = 201 watts

Option A - XSPC Loop:

Looking up the OPs fan, they spin at 1,000 rpm so as we see in the charts the XSPC providea only 147 watts of cooling ... oops we are 54 watts short ... time for a new radiator ! Ok so to make it more even lets use the same fans which gives us 269 watts so we more than OK

Add 1080 £760
Add Water Block £120
Add Backplate £40
Add two Fittings / Tubing / Coolant £30

Total = £950

Option B - Swiftech Loop:

Add 1080 £760
Add Water Block £120
Add Backplate £40
Add two Fittings / Tubing / Coolant £30
Total = £950

So same thing no more expensive, no more shipping no extra labor


Add 2 x 1080

125 watt CPU + 10 watt Pump + 2 x 197 say 400 watts = 535 watts

60% of 535 = 321 watts

Option A - XSPC Loop:

The 269 watts capability of the rad comes up 16% short of the enthusiast target of 10C... actual Delta T with the two 1080s would be about 12C .

Add 1080 £760
Add Water Block £120
Add Backplate £40
Add two Fittings / Tubing / Coolant £30

Total = £950 x 2 = £1900

Option B - Swiftech Loop:

The 296 watts capability of the rad comes up 16% short of the enthusiast target of 10C... actual Delta T with the two 1080s would be about 10.5C .

Add 1080 £760
Add Water Block £120
Add Backplate £40
Add two Fittings / Tubing / Coolant £30
Total = £950 x 2 = £1900

So same thing no more expensive, no more shipping no extra labor ... cause as we can see the existing 320 rad is perfectly capable ho the Swistech is more capable.

But Ok, to address your point... let's say we are planning on AMDs answer to the 1080 Ti and we do need that extra radiator to handle the extra 200 watts.

125 watt CPU + 10 watt Pump + 2 x 300 = 735 watts

735 x 60% = 441 watts

Option A - XSPC Loop:

The 269 watts capability of the rad would be boosted by the extra 179 watts from a new 240mm rad for a total of 448 watts, The Delta T m with two RX Furys would be about 19.8C .

Add Radiator £70
Add two Fittings / Tubing / Coolant £30
Total = £100

Option B - Swiftech Loop:

The 296 watt capability of the rad would be boosted by the extra 197 watts from a new 240mm rad for a total of 493 watts, The Delta T m with two RX Furys would be about 8.9C .

Add Radiator £70
Add two Fittings / Tubing / Coolant £30
Total = £100

Again, even if we create an imaginary need for a card that doesn't exist, we still can't come up with a scenario where these "extra parts" are needed.

I am really having trouble fathoming why you believe that there's a difference here. If you bought the XSPC kit from a water cooling vendor

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20836/ex-wat-264/XSPC_Raystorm_750_AX360_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_New_Rev_4_Pump_Included_w_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g59c683s2175

And they offered to pre-assemble it for you at no extra charge ... why would adding a card, radiator, whatever be any harder, more expensive. require more shipping charges than if you assembled it yourself ?

You start out £80 ahead ... and we wind up the same £80 ahead no matter what we add. Again, its like building a box yourself or handing he dude at the local mom and pop PC shop a parts list and having hm build it for you.... It doesn't get harder nor more expensive to upgrade just cause someone else assembled the exact same parts for you. To be clear, the connections are not the same on the pre-assembled base unit... but if ya pa a bit more (Prestige Version £208.54), you get the exact same fittings you'd buy for any radiator

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The point of the build is in no way, shape or form impacting by the Swiftech ... I can't understand where this mindset is coming from. Using the Swiftech...

a) Allows you to add more rads ...not that you wil need them ... using the Swiftech does not stop, hinder or impinge in any way the installation of additional rads.

b) Allows you to add graphics cards ...using the Swiftech does not stop, hinder or impinge in any way the installation of additional GFX cards.

c) Allows you to add additional pump(s) ...using the Swiftech does not stop, hinder or impinge in any way the installation of additional pump(s).

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/22-liquid/42047-swiftech-h240-x-open-loop-280mm-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=3

The X Series is built from top quality components found in custom loops with the performance and expandability to match, yet their pre-assembly offers the convenience typically associated with CLCs. In short, Swiftech is delivering the best of both worlds at an incredibly reasonable price with the X Series, and the H240-X is the biggest and most powerful unit in the line.

The individual components of the H240-X look far more like a shopping list for a high quality small~mid-size loop than something one would pull already assembled out of a box. It begins with Swiftech’s flagship Apogee XL CPU block, which is among the finest available on the market, and took top performance honors in our mainstream block comparisons. The radiator is built from Swiftech’s tried and true 240QP, featuring copper/brass construction and low restriction 12 fpi optimized for low noise cooling. The MCP-30 pump is capable of more than 1 gpm flow rates with enough head pressure to easily accommodate additional radiators and blocks.

Unlike a CLC, the H240-X is nothing short of a pre-assembled collection of top quality discrete [custom] liquid cooling components, and it shows in the build quality and performance.

For those looking to expand], the 240mm radiator will handle most GPU additions [ don't use for 4 way SLI] , while the pump is ready to take on more additions as you see fit..... With the X Series, Swiftech has gift wrapped a custom loop, assembled it and delivered it at an astonishingly low price point. In other words, with the H220-X and H240-X, Swiftech is delivering the real liquid cooling performance that those making the jump have craved but haven't gotten, while giving you all of the convenience of a CLC. Whether you are making your initial foray into liquid cooling, are looking for an upgrade from CLC or are an experienced user doing a small loop, the Swiftech X Series should be planted firmly at the top of your “must have” list, and the H240-X is the biggest, baddest member of the series. The H220-X and H240-X are game changers, plain and simple, and are the biggest advance in cooling that we have seen in years.

As you can see, it was designed exactly for your intended purpose .. a chance for water cooling novices to "get their feet wet" < pun intended> with water cooling while giving you a platform that is easily expandable and let you add additional radiators, water blocks,pump you see fit.

I spent approximately 5 weeks building my last water cooling rig for personal use. I did it for the challenge and it was a rather intensive process hand cutting and fitting all the rigid acrylic tubing not to mention preparing the plans i AutoCAD ad for custom parts I had to make. If you are doing it for the artistry, the challenge, the aesthetics, etc I'd go for it. I don't have that kinda time these days and I don't think I would invest the moola ($2500 for WC components alone) again except as a hobby time sink kinda thing. The WC builds I have dome since have used the Swiftech, simply because it does the same job, has the same expandability and I can complete it in 20 minutes rather than 5 weeks. Adding an MSI Seahawk GFX Card w/ water block will take maybe 20 minutes .. you could add 2 GFX cards and a radiator in an hour.

If figure ya now curious so here's a pic above referenced build

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That's a pic w/o the 2nd set of fans and I still haven't finished sleeving the cables yet :)
 


hey, yer its not just about performance, I to want to challenge myself with a custom loop, swift tech does look good but i dont think i will feel the same satisfaction as having a loop i build myself, also the case i have it will be a shame not to put a custom loop in from the shire size and basement compartment which is perfect for a 360 rad and pump.

from the parts i have already listed do you see anything which will be incompatible or case a problem for the build ?
 

Was vaguely suggested, although I refrained from mentioning it which is my bad.
"I recommend upgrading your GPU before water cooling it, the R9 290 may overclock well, but it will be a waste of money with such an old card."
This post is better, straight to the point rather than bickering. :)
OP take a look at this and make a decision on what best suits your needs at the current time and in the future, and what parts you plan to buy in terms of upgrading your GPU, so Jack can lay out a purchase path for you.


 

Apart from the recommendations to replace some parts listed above, I think you're set.
I just wouldn't add an R9 290 waterblock to the mix until you've upgraded to something like a 1070 for example, as it will essentially be wasted money.
 

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