[SOLVED] First Gaming PC Build, need help

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I'd rather have multicore performance of the 3600x because it's within 10% of the i9 9900k, at half the cost. Sure the i7 9700k beats out AMD up front when single tasking a game, as of this time. However as the system ages and game demands increase, these Ryzen processors and their multicore performance will out perform the 8 thread i7 9700k. I guarantee in two years time when you're playing future triple A titles you'll see that cpu nearing 100% load whereas the R5 3600x will still be going strong. The i7 9700k is a pure rip off from a price to performance standpoint and is a mistake to purchase as of this time. Added an extra exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor...
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PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $364.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler | $47.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Asus - TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $165.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $64.99 @ Amazon
Storage | HP - EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $62.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $46.65 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card | $429.99 @ Newegg
Case | Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $74.99 @ Newegg
Monitor | AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | $179.97 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1528.44
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $1488.44
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 01:31 EDT-0400 |
 
I'd rather have multicore performance of the 3600x because it's within 10% of the i9 9900k, at half the cost. Sure the i7 9700k beats out AMD up front when single tasking a game, as of this time. However as the system ages and game demands increase, these Ryzen processors and their multicore performance will out perform the 8 thread i7 9700k. I guarantee in two years time when you're playing future triple A titles you'll see that cpu nearing 100% load whereas the R5 3600x will still be going strong. The i7 9700k is a pure rip off from a price to performance standpoint and is a mistake to purchase as of this time. Added an extra exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($248.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB GAMING Video Card ($439.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design - FD-FAN-SSLL-120-WT 41.8 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($179.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1500.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 16:13 EDT-0400
 
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I'd rather have multicore performance of the 3600x because it's within 10% of the i9 9900k, at half the cost. Sure the i7 9700k beats out AMD up front when single tasking a game, as of this time. However as the system ages and game demands increase, these Ryzen processors and their multicore performance will out perform the 8 thread i7 9700k. I guarantee in two years time when you're playing future triple A titles you'll see that cpu nearing 100% load whereas the R5 3600x will still be going strong. The i7 9700k is a pure rip off from a price to performance standpoint and is a mistake to purchase as of this time. Added an extra exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($248.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB GAMING Video Card ($439.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design - FD-FAN-SSLL-120-WT 41.8 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($179.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1500.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 16:13 EDT-0400
The 3600x is good no doubt, but the 9700k is well off better than two years. It should last 4-5yrs easily as games are still far off from using 8 cores. There are still a majority of people on quad cores out there and game developers still have to keep them in mind during development. The 8700k and 9700k should last for about the same duration, the 8700k maybe a couple more which is equal to the 3600x. By the time these 3 chips outlast each other you will need better hardware anyway.
I would go with the 8700k instead of the 9700k...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $349.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler | $47.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Asus - TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $165.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage | HP - EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $46.65 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card | $429.99 @ Newegg
Case | Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $74.99 @ Newegg
Monitor | AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | $179.97 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1525.44
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $1485.44
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 21:11 EDT-0400 |
 
The 3600x is good no doubt, but the 9700k is well off better than two years. It should last 4-5yrs easily as games are still far off from using 8 cores. There are still a majority of people on quad cores out there and game developers still have to keep them in mind during development. The 8700k and 9700k should last for about the same duration, the 8700k maybe a couple more which is equal to the 3600x. By the time these 3 chips outlast each other you will need better hardware anyway.
I would go with the 8700k instead of the 9700k...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $349.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler | $47.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Asus - TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $165.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage | HP - EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $46.65 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card | $429.99 @ Newegg
Case | Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $74.99 @ Newegg
Monitor | AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | $179.97 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1525.44
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $1485.44
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 21:11 EDT-0400 |
To clarify what I said. The i7 9700k will be placed under full load in two years time by triple A titles, not the ending of it's life span. If you research cpu load utilization with new triple A titles like Battlefield that are very processor intensive, you'll see Intel hex core chips and older i7 (8 thread) chips being fully utilized. This is where better multicore performance comes into play via gaming longevity and that is why Ryzen is the better choice. From a price to performance standpoint, choosing Ryzen's better multcore performance will alow you to save money (from a price to performance standpoint) which will allow budget to be allocated to other areas of the build. Unfortunately there is no viable reason to purchase Intel as of this time.

Here is an example:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($248.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS Video Card ($609.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design - FD-FAN-SSLL-120-WT 41.8 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($179.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1532.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 23:10 EDT-0400


My decision if I were in the OP's position would be to ditch the aftermarket cooler and secondary SSD and opt for a higher end graphics card.
 
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To clarify what I said. The i7 9700k will be placed under full load in two years time by triple A titles, not the ending of it's life span. If you research cpu load utilization with new triple A titles like Battlefield that are very processor intensive, you'll see Intel hex core chips and older i7 (8 thread) chips being fully utilized. This is where better multicore performance comes into play via gaming longevity and that is why Ryzen is the better choice. From a price to performance standpoint, choosing Ryzen's better multcore performance will alow you to save money (from a price to performance standpoint) which will allow budget to be allocated to other areas of the build. Unfortunately there is no viable reason to purchase Intel as of this time.

Here is an example:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($248.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS Video Card ($609.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design - FD-FAN-SSLL-120-WT 41.8 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($179.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1532.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 23:10 EDT-0400


My decision if I were in the OP's position would be to ditch the aftermarket cooler and secondary SSD and opt for a higher end graphics card.
Ofcourse a Hyper Threaded CPU is better choice due to its sheer thread count which is beneficial for a lot of games and gives more longevity. As I said the 3600x is pretty close, but the 8700k is still a bit better in most games...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GjSiLbCtHU

Price to performance ratio goes to 3600x but pure superiority is still retained by 8700k. You cant loose going either way as both of them should easily give you around 5yrs of gaming.
Also you dont need a 2080 to run a 144hz screen, its way overkill.