Greenbow54

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This is my first time even really looking at parts for a computer, so let me know anywhere that you'd recommend changing


Going to purchase within 3 weeks or so.

Budget: $1,000 - $1,250 (monitor included)

This computer will be used entirely for gaming, I have a laptop for all the other work and school crap that goes on these machines.

Here's what I've come up with so far. The one piece is Really am not sure about is this Mobo. Please critique where you can.

CASE
$37.27 – Cooler Master ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.aztekcomputers.com/RC912KKN1FBR-COOLER-MASTER-2415445.html
CPU
$277 - Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz 8m cache lga1155
http://compu-america.com/bx80637i73770-i7-3770-processor-340ghz-8m-cache-lga1155.html
CPU Cooler / Fan
$55 – CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181033&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA
MOTHERBOARD
$80 -GIGABYTE GA-Z77-DS3H Intel 7 Series Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel Z77 Express, 1600MHz DDR3, SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 7.1-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, CrossFireX
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2276160&SRCCODE=WEBGOO0163C&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE&gclid=CKL-1Nm--LMCFYZaMgod1gMA5Q
RAM
$68 – Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233310
Video Card
$217 – GeForce GTX 660 Video Card
http://www.buy.com/prod/evga-geforce-gtx-660-graphic-card-993-mhz-core-2-gb-gddr5-sdram-pci/241890088.html?listingId=-1
Power Supply
$55 – Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, SLI-Ready, 135mm Fan, Lifetime Warranty w/ Registration
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573&CatId=1483

HDD Storage
$85 – 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
Optical Drive
$20 – ASUS 24x DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
**Monitor
$120 - BenQ GW2250 22" Class Widescreen LED Backlit Monitor - 1920 x 1080, 16:9, 20000000:1 Dynamic, 5000:1 Native, 4ms, DVI, VGA, Energy Star
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3301096&Sku=B145-2250
Operating System
$100 – Windows 8 OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550
Wireless Adaptor
$25 - Rosewill RNX-N300X IEEE 802.11b/g 2.0 PCI Wireless Adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166051

• $1,139.27 WITH Monitor
• $1,020.27 WITHOUT Monitor
o Cyberpowerpc price with monitor, same specs = $1,539

Possible Recommendations
Swapping out HDD for SSD. ~$190. TOTAL = $1236.27 With SSD swap
256 GB SSD
SSD - Crucial 256 GB m4 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT256M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JL2A
OR
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2983951&Sku=O261-9802
120 GB SSD
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-internal-hard-drive-mknssdcl120gbdx
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233191&Tpk=20-233-191
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171567

KEYBOARD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201048
OR
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6680708&CatId=142



 

Mmatuu

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Well first of all...
If the PC is only for gaming, go for i5 3570(k), cause i7 is useless in gaming, so go for 3570(k) the K version is you are gona overclock now or in future.
Then the H60, closed loop cooling arent so good.. i prefer just high-end air coolers. like Noctua NH-D14 or Thermalright Silver arrow, or for a cheaper one like CM hyper 212.
Then the MoBo, its good but for better at around the same proce is Asrock extreme4 z77.
Then 16gb RAM for gaming is useless, just go for 2x4gb. like Corsair vengance low profile.
Then for this kind of build, 660ti is kind of "weak", you might think of something like amd 7870,amd 7970 or nvidia 670.
For the PSU i think Corsair CX600 is good, with good price.
Then the Harddrive, i would go for either Samsung spinpoint, WD caviar black or Segate Barracuda. all 1tb, once again cause PC is for gaming.
The ssd is prefered, it speeds the PC bootting time and games downloading speed. But it doesent take the HDD place. You need both of them, or just HDD.

But well, thats pretty mutch that. Look the parts up, read rewievs and look the price differences. remember EXPENSIVE IS NOT ALLWAYS BEST!!
 

bardacuda

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You can get the same hard drive but with 64MB cache instead of 32MB for cheaper from newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

I agree with mmatuu about the CPU and cooler. The hyperthreading you get with an i7 is absolutely useless for gaming so you might as well save some money and get an i5-3570K. If you don't plan on overclocking save a couple more bucks and get an i5-35xx non-K version. And for the cooler you could also save some money and probably even get better cooling with a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO for $35.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Oh RAM same thing. You only really need 4GB but may as well go 8GB for a little future-proofing since it's cheap but 16GB is just overkill and you will most likely never be at more than 20% memory usage even with page file turned off.

I've never heard of that PSU so I can't recommend it but for $70 yeah that Corsair unit is good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

The board seems ok but if you could get the Extreme 4 or a better board at the same price then why not?

So after all that I'm not sure what you'd be at now for cost but with a ~$1200 budget I don't see why you couldn't get a better video card than a 660. A 7870 is a little better, then a 7950/660 ti, then a 670/7970, then a 680/7970GHz in that order. You probably couldn't squeeze in the last two tiers without sacrificing too much on other components but I don't see why you couldn't get at the very least a 7870 in that build if not a 660 ti or 7950.

I wouldn't recommend swapping the magnetic storage entirely for an SSD because it's going to get full and you're going to need a magnetic storage disk with a larger capacity anyway. But if you can somehow squeeze in a 120GB or larger SSD and still keep at least a 500GB magnetic drive in the build I would go that way.

EDIT: Oh yeah and if you are not overclocking and get a non-K CPU you won't need to buy a cooler at all.
 

+1, he sum it all up.
 

burntpizza

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GTX 660 is weaker than HD 7870 yet it is priced almost the same. HD 7870 is only 1 or 2 fps slower than 660 ti on most games. Might as well switch to hd 7870
 
Save as much as you can and grab a GTX 670 or HD 7970, the new games Far Cry3, Hitman Absolution and AC III are quite intensive, you're gonna suffer maxing them out with anything less than HD 7950.
 

omnimodis78

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i5-3570K will be a better match.

No SSD? Really? All games have to load either at loading screens or dynamic loads (while you play) or both, and loading means fetching large amount of data from hard drive to memory. Don't skip on the SSD! Trust me.

Windows 8? This is totally subjective, but why? Is it practical for you to get, or are you on that "new build high" and you want to get the newest of everything? For gaming, I'd skip 8.

Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply - I'll be honest with you I'd stay away from this one. It's not a reliable brand at all. Basically one step up from generic OEM, and that's not advisable. Do not cheap out on the PSU, it can cause more headaches than you know. Oh, and if you reply and say "but it has 5/5 stars" - yes, from people who fell for it and bought it and A) they want to think they bought a 5/5 product, so they rate it the same, B) they know nothing about PSUs or C) since their PC exploded and their city block burned down as a result, they have no access to a computer to rate it 1/5. Kidding, but when newegg doesn't even carry a brand, you know something is probably off...

Everything else looks pretty good.
 

omnimodis78

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Way better! Just one more suggestion: think again about Windows 8...unless you've already used it and like it! For gaming it's really not worth it. Please reconsider this one point. Other than that, this system will be a solid gaming machine! I have a lot of the same stuff you list there. The video card overclocks incredibly, you won't regret going with that.
 

bardacuda

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Umm you have a much smaller 5400RPM hard drive but I don't see an SSD. I'd recommend at least a 1TB 7200RPM drive. That hard drive would be ok if you had an SSD as well and it was at least 500GB. Other than that everything looks good.

EDIT: Oh my bad I see the SSD now lol Don't mind me
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($25.97 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1332.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-02 23:35 EST-0500)
 

Greenbow54

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1300 is pushing it a bit, I did change out the case though. The monitor is what's going to eat a good chunk of my leftover budget.

I think I need the OS, don't have another copy, though I might be able to get one for free through my university if I'm getting a new computer (Not sure about that, though someone told me so)

Here's what I'm at now

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1148.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-02 23:53 EST-0500)
 
240 GB is a bit large for the OS and games, just use a 128GB SSD along with 1 TB or 500GB HDD, and thus you got speed and storage. Games take a large space along with HD movies. Samsung is the most reilable SSD out there, get Samsung 830 or 840 Pro. I remember Mushkin Deluxe Chronos or something like this that got a good review.

You'll need to OC your CPU later to get the most out of it, so I recommend stepping up to a "K" version.

Everything else looks in place, you could get a modular PSU too, better and easier to install, you don't need more than 500W for this build.

EDIT: I got disappointed today with my HD 6950, so GTX 670 is a necessity.
 

Greenbow54

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Okay, with those changes here's the finale, hopefully this PSU I picked is good?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($97.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Raidmax 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($38.81 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1090.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-03 10:02 EST-0500)
 

bardacuda

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Everything looks good there except for the power supply. I'd switch that back to the Corsair. You don't want a cheap power supply melting your motherboard and CPU in a $1200 machine